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Old 11-06-12, 06:44 AM   #1
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A Wave of Kindness Spreading Across the USA?

. . . Well, probably not. But it's very odd that for over 2 months now I have encountered very courteous, kind drivers and have not had any "yellers", and "buzzes", no close calls or horn-honking. All drivers have been polite and have given me the right-of-way when it's mine.

I was thinking "Full Moon" but a FM doesn't last this long.

A couple of months ago I put my rear rack and panniers on the Black Knight bike and noticed drivers started behaving better around me (I posted a thread about it here), but after a week or so I decided to go back to the backpack and I took the rack off of the bike. So it's not the "Foreign Tourist Let's Be Nice" syndrome, as I theorized then.

I know it's not going to last; eventually I will start getting my evil-eye looks and my horn honks again. But I'm certainly enjoying this stretch of kindness, however unusual it might be!
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Old 11-06-12, 08:16 AM   #2
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Has your riding habits changed?
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. . . Well, probably not. But it's very odd that for over 2 months now I have encountered very courteous, kind drivers and have not had any "yellers", and "buzzes", no close calls or horn-honking. All drivers have been polite and have given me the right-of-way when it's mine.

I was thinking "Full Moon" but a FM doesn't last this long.

A couple of months ago I put my rear rack and panniers on the Black Knight bike and noticed drivers started behaving better around me (I posted a thread about it here), but after a week or so I decided to go back to the backpack and I took the rack off of the bike. So it's not the "Foreign Tourist Let's Be Nice" syndrome, as I theorized then.

I know it's not going to last; eventually I will start getting my evil-eye looks and my horn honks again. But I'm certainly enjoying this stretch of kindness, however unusual it might be!

I noticed this last year around November. Turns out that it's just because people drive with their windows up, you can't hear them yelling at you anymore. It'll return in April.
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On a ride last Saturday, I ran into the two extremes. One redneck woman figured she could cut me off and slam on the brakes (gosh, she beat me to the red light I was coasting towards!) because I was "supposed to get out of her way."

Then, on one of my least favorite half-mile stretches of hilly two-lane, a very kind soul stayed behind me, very politely, for a quarter mile, and held back the rest of the traffic.

One salt of the earth, one silt of the earth...
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Maybe it's because there are so many bikers, but in Boston (Boston!), land of the crazy driver, i've never had a problem with motorists. Maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe it's because when i'm on roads with heavier traffic they tend to have sharrows.
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. . . Well, probably not. But it's very odd that for over 2 months now I have encountered very courteous, kind drivers and have not had any "yellers", and "buzzes", no close calls or horn-honking. All drivers have been polite and have given me the right-of-way when it's mine.

I was thinking "Full Moon" but a FM doesn't last this long.

A couple of months ago I put my rear rack and panniers on the Black Knight bike and noticed drivers started behaving better around me (I posted a thread about it here), but after a week or so I decided to go back to the backpack and I took the rack off of the bike. So it's not the "Foreign Tourist Let's Be Nice" syndrome, as I theorized then.

I know it's not going to last; eventually I will start getting my evil-eye looks and my horn honks again. But I'm certainly enjoying this stretch of kindness, however unusual it might be!
It is winter time now and no one wants to roll down the window and yell. It is too cold for them to do so!

Wait til spring!
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I've been riding with a single pannier (on the left side) for a little over a month now, and I've noticed a significant change in the way drivers overtake me, leaving a lot more space than without it.

I think it's the fear of them not being able to judge the width with the pannier on, but it could just be that a bike and rider with panniers looks more "serious" than a recreational weekend rider.
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Not at all. Have you ever seen the Portlandia Bike video? That's me - Sometimes I think I deserve rude looks. But I think Mith and Chef have it right - windows are up because of the cold, and things will be back to normal Springtime 2013!

The Portlandia Bike guy (in case you've never seen it - it's been posted here at BF about 50 times) :
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Not at all. Have you ever seen the Portlandia Bike video? That's me - Sometimes I think I deserve rude looks. But I think Mith and Chef have it right - windows are up because of the cold, and things will be back to normal Springtime 2013!

The Portlandia Bike guy (in case you've never seen it - it's been posted here at BF about 50 times) :
OMG I had never seen that! Funny but his whistle need to be shoved up his.....
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I always laugh and laugh. The guy is from Saturday Night Live and does a local show in Portland called Portlandia, and the bike guy is just one of his characters. If you ever have an afternoon, search "Portlandia" on youtube - it's hilarious. And (actually) I really don't ride quite like him (snicker)
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On a ride last Saturday, I ran into the two extremes. One redneck woman figured she could cut me off and slam on the brakes (gosh, she beat me to the red light I was coasting towards!) because I was "supposed to get out of her way."

Then, on one of my least favorite half-mile stretches of hilly two-lane, a very kind soul stayed behind me, very politely, for a quarter mile, and held back the rest of the traffic.

One salt of the earth, one silt of the earth...
And you use the redneck appellation because?? I am a rural living, farmer, bike rider, whose neck is red because I spend my days out in the sunshine, how bout easing up on the name calling.
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If you are offended by some guy you don't know, calling some woman you don't know a redneck...all I can say is you are way to easily offended.
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Busted? I think pdlamb got body-slammed! I will do everything in my power to make jerhalco one of my best friends here on the forum so I'm not next!
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If you are offended by some guy you don't know, calling some woman you don't know a redneck...all I can say is you are way to easily offended.
I don't blame him for being offended. There's all kinds of bigotry around us, and one of the ones that's not addressed often is the "redneck" thing - Rural mid-western farmer types are often looked down on by us city -slickers. I'm with Jerry on this one, although he could have admonished a little gentler - -
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Gentler? I said "ease up a little on the name calling".Tractor, I appreciate your comment on the midwestern farmer types as its used too often as derogatory when talking about farmers. I guess I could have said don't cuss farmers with your mouth full!
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