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    "Fools rush in,

    where angels fear to tread." So goes the saying. Maybe I shouldn't be as happy about this as I am, but I bought this:



    And at this moment, while still awaiting its arrival, I am pretty happy with the purchase. I got it from Bike Island and because it has the dreaded fork-lacking-eyelets and no rear rack it was heavily discounted. Shipped, this bike was $449! I didn't think I could go wrong for that price!

    The fact is that while many people here and at other sites have stated how idiotic it is to offer a bike for touring without the ability to mount a front rack (and I don't disagree), I didn't buy this bike for touring - at least at the moment - I bought it because it has just about everything I could want at this point in my cycling abilities/interests. I have to think that by the time I get out on this bike and ride it long enough I can decide where I might want to go with my next purchase.

    I am looking forward to this experience and welcome all commentary!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpL8 View Post
    The fact is that while many people here and at other sites have stated how idiotic it is to offer a bike for touring without the ability to mount a front rack (and I don't disagree), I didn't buy this bike for touring - at least at the moment - I bought it because it has just about everything I could want at this point in my cycling abilities/interests. I have to think that by the time I get out on this bike and ride it long enough I can decide where I might want to go with my next purchase.
    You don't need to have eyelets and braze-ons for the front fork to go touring, unless it's expedition trekking in highly remote places that require you to carry the kitchen sink along with everything else.

    There are plenty of people, including me, who tour quite happily with just a rear rack and panniers, for weeks or months at a time. With some creativity, careful spending and sorting out your comfort zone, lighter and less bulky are always worthy aims.

    You don't mention the specs of the bike, but I am sure that for the price, it will do what you want. However, I would seek out someone to check the wheels and retension the spokes for you as a priority...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowan View Post
    You don't need to have eyelets and braze-ons for the front fork to go touring, unless it's expedition trekking in highly remote places that require you to carry the kitchen sink along with everything else.
    Agreed, nor would it be hard to add a front rack to that bike if you were ever so inclined in the future. Looks like a nice bike with the versatility to use a variety of tire widths.

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    Yep, Rowan...I already have a very capable local bike mechanic who will do the work I need and that which is beyond my ability...I too have concerns about the wheels/spokes that I'd just as soon address before I ride the bike. That, and I'd like the fellow to go over my assembly of the bike to be certain I didn't screw anything up!

    The specs - from the Bikes Direct site are:

    Main Frame
    Motobecane custom butted 4130 Cro-Moly, Double water bottle mounts
    Rear Triangle Motobecane custom tapered Cro-Moly with forged dropout, Spare spoke holder, rack mounts, 130mm rear spacing
    Fork Motobecane custom tapered Cro-Moly, front Rack Brazeons, drop-out eyelets
    Crankset SUGINO XD-600T, 28T(ALLOY SILVER), 38T(ALLOY SILVER), 48T(ALLOY SILVER), ALLOY CRANK, FOR SQUARE BB, W/BB BOLT W/170mm Alloy Silver Cranks, W/Cap Bolts
    Bottom Bracket Shimano CARTRIDGE BOTTOM BRACKET, BB-UN26 AXLE:LL113, SHELL:BSA 68MM, W/O FIXING BOLT
    Pedals WELLGO LU-908A 9/16" BORON AXLE, ALLOY SLV BODY, ALLOY BLK CAGE, W/ CLIP 43/49:M SIZE,54/58/64:L SIZE AND BLACK STRAP
    Front Derailleur Shimano Sora, clamp-on, 31.8mm
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT, 9-speed, Rapidrise (LowNormal)
    Shifters Shimano SHIFTING LEVER BAR END TYPE, DURA ACE SL-BS77
    Cassette/Freewheel Shimano CS-HG50-9, 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-30-34T
    Chain KMC Z-9000 1/2"*11/128
    Front Hub Vuelta Sealed Alloy Road, 36H
    Rear Hub Vuelta Sealed Bearing Freehub 36H, 130mm rear spacing
    Spokes Stainless, 14g
    Rims Vuelta FRONT/REAR,F:36H.3X,R:36H.3X TOURING, W/O EYELET,CNC SIDEWALL
    Tires Kenda Eurotrek, 700 x 32c, presta valve tubes
    Brake Set Tektro Oryx Cantilever, TEKTRO 992AG F&R, CARTRIDGE PADS
    Brake Levers TEKTRO RL340
    Headset 1"W/SEALED ψ26.4 CROWN CONE
    Handlebar 6061 Butted Road, Anatomical Drops
    43/49/54:420W,56/58:440W,64:460W
    Stem Motobecane Superlight Road Aluminum, 1" Removable Clamp
    EXT: 43/49*90mm,54/56/58/64*100mm, QUILL 150mm, 0 DEG
    Tape/Grip Motobecane custom cork wrap Black
    Saddle Motobecane Sport "Comfort Cut-out" Touring
    Seat Post Superlite Micro Adjust alloy, 250mm X 27.2mm
    Seat Clamp New Motobecane Ultralite alloy, Lazer etched
    Sizes 43cm (28.5" Standover/TT=515mm), 49cm (30" Standover/TT=525), 54cm (31" Standover/TT=540), 58cm (32.5" Standover/TT=565), 64cm (34" Standover/TT=585) Geometry Sizing Chart

    At Bikes Direct, the bike sells for $799, so while I presume the bike I got from Bike Island is an older model (hence the lack of eyelets/braze-ons) and minus the rack, I still think I've saved a bundle!

    Thanks for the advice around judicious planning for touring. I'm definitely not there yet, but who knows? I trust the advice of folks here on Bike Forums, so when and if the time comes, I will be all ears around the subject of touring!
    Last edited by UpL8; 12-22-12 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Spec font too big!
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    That bikes looks like a great set-up. The only weakness, if that, I can see is the BB, but it's still a Shimano, so it should last quite a while. The wheels are Vuelta, which have a reasonable reputation, and they are 36H. The frame also has a 1" headset, which might make acquiring alternative quill stems a little more difficult.

    Overall, I think you scored a bargain...
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    You guys are great! You make comments and/or ask questions that I never think of in advance...prathmann, yes, the ability to select from a variety of tire widths was another reason I got this bike, I figure that having a few choices would enable me to somewhat customize the bike for whatever purpose/need I have for it at least at the level of tires/wheels.

    My current bike is a 1997 Specialized Hard Rock mountain bike, and it has served me very, very well over the last year or so that I've been back to riding; and though I still have an inherent faith in slightly wider tires the time has come for me to extend my rides (I'm riding 100K in next years' Tour de Cure), and it would be preferable to do that on a road bike - this one, I think, will be a definite improvement in that regard.
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    I think the general guidance for bikes direct bikes is to assume it was put together by a drunk monkey, so if you have the time and inclination it's worth checking the hubs, BB, headset etc. for correctness (and lube in the case of the BB).

    Enjoy your new ride!

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    So, Rowan, do you think I should go ahead and replace the BB prior to even seriously riding this bike? I mean, if replacing the BB now staves off potential failure of the stock BB, it might be for the best. What do you suggest? Thanks for your feedback, it's AWESOME!
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    Point well-taken, TrojanHorse! LOL! Drunken monkey = funny visual. I planned to go over the bike myself as I assemble what I need to, and then it goes to the mechanic for proper finishing and fine-tuning. I would just take it to the mechanic and get it all done, but I really want to know what I can do myself, you know? I have the essential tools and lubes at my disposal for doing the essential work, but yeah, I also know when to trust the expertise of those who do this kind of work for a living!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpL8 View Post
    So, Rowan, do you think I should go ahead and replace the BB prior to even seriously riding this bike? I mean, if replacing the BB now staves off potential failure of the stock BB, it might be for the best. What do you suggest? Thanks for your feedback, it's AWESOME!
    Nah, stick with it. It will be fine. Just keep a check on it every 500 miles or so... grab the cranks on either side of the bike, and wiggle them sideways. If there is any play in the BB, you will feel it. If there is none, don't sweat it.
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    Okey dokey! Shouldn't be a problem checking every 500 miles or so...I haven't even racked up 500 miles since returning to riding! LOL! Checking seems easy enough though...I will keep it in mind! Appreciate the advice!
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    Thats a great deal. Im riding a BD Motobecane Fantom for the winter months. Ive found it to be a strong and reliable MTB bike. I checked all nuts and fixtures on delivery and havent had an issue in 4 months. Great value for $.

    Congrats

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