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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 12-26-12, 01:57 PM   #1
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Will you be a Clyde at the end of 2013?

I will not.

I didn't wait to start my weight loss efforts until the new year. I started two days before Thanksgiving. I'm glad I did. I believe I put the most difficult time of year behind me at the beginning of the journey rather than balloon another 5 or 10 pounds and then start with a "new year's resolution." Anyway, I learned... "do it today" is better than "start next year." I'm down 16 lbs in the last 5 weeks... 19 lbs more... and I'm no longer a "Clyde."

I've been specific about some goals. I have daily goals on caloric intake (2200 cals); exercise (1000 cals); carbohydrates (100 net carbs). I have monthly goals for weight loss (10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 = 45 lbs in 6 months.) I've joined a year long running competition (1000 miles in 2013.) I will do at least one century ride by July 31. I'll run a 5K by July 31.

Have you though about it (and written it down) on how you will improve over the next year? I'd love to hear it. Nobody wants to continue living their lives forever with a 30+ BMI.
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Old 12-26-12, 02:10 PM   #2
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I plan on gaining weight. I'll be down to 220 (1800cals/day only monitoring protein) at the end of first quarter, and hopefully up to a lean 240-250 by year end. (Goal 3300-3800 cals/day, 20 carb, 50 fat, 30 protein.)
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Old 12-26-12, 02:36 PM   #3
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I'll still technically be a Clyde because my goal weight is still above 200 pounds. However, I won't be overweight any more! I have only 20 more pounds to lose until I reach goal weight, and I'll do that by early Summer on my Weight Watchers program.I'll still post in C/A because there's lots of content for larger riders, even if not overweight. Besides, this is where my friends are!
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Old 12-26-12, 02:57 PM   #4
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I'll say that the key to my post was the "30+ BMI." I don't know many people with 30+ BMI that are healthy (yes, there are a few... they are bodybuilders.) If you are over 6' tall, then I can understand being just a bit over 200 lbs. That's not me. I have to get to 205 just to be considered "overweight" by BMI standards. Currently I carry the classifications of "Clyde" and "obese." I'll drop them both next year.

The interesting thing that has happened since I started the diet, exercise, and weight loss, is the number of people that have told me I won't be able to do it (they are all also 30+ BMI.) While there are plenty of things to motivate me, being told that I can't do it has become the most motivating factor of all.

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Old 12-26-12, 03:19 PM   #5
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I am confused, you are running 1000 miles in a year, thats 19 plus miles a week but dont plan to run 3.1 miles until the end of july?
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I will always be a Clyde at heart, but plan to be down to around 190 pounds at 15% bodyfat by mid-summer. To do so I'll need to maintain my current lean mass and shed 40 lbs of fat. The last time I made a big change in body composition I dropped around 70 lbs total while gaining about 10 lbs of lean mass in nine months and have maintained that weight and BF% for about two years. Last year I spent a lot of time on increasing strength and endurance (cardiovascular fitness), now I'm ready to drop the rest of the weight to my ultimate goal.
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Old 12-26-12, 03:34 PM   #7
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I hope to get down to 190ish again, that will probably be determined by 2 things, staying injured free from the MTB and how much time I can get outside w/ a new baby in the house. I hate my trainer ATM, but will learn to love some part of it I guess.
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Old 12-26-12, 03:38 PM   #8
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I am confused, you are running 1000 miles in a year, thats 19 plus miles a week but dont plan to run 3.1 miles until the end of july?
Yep... and I mean "run." Currently I'm at about a 14 minute per mile pace on my 6 - 6.5 mile workouts on the treadmill. It's not all "running." I drop down to a 3.3 mph walking pace for at intervals during the workout but I bump up the incline. So, when I say that I want to run a 5k... my goal is 30 minutes or less... which is less than 10 minute miles - I have a ways to go to get there. Yes, I can finish a 5k and a century today (I've actually completed a double) but I want to complete those events in a time and at a fitness level that is acceptable to me. So, the goal for me is not to "just finish" but to be fit enough to hit my own personal goals.

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Old 12-26-12, 05:30 PM   #9
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I hope to be a very fit Athena by end of 2013. I will always be an Athena as my ideal weight is still in the Athena range.
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Old 12-26-12, 07:33 PM   #10
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Yes I will always be a clyde unless I get sick or somthing
but I will get close
The bmI chart is not real accurate for all people
I myself dont put much stock in it
according to the charts my #is 32.5
The chart says I should weigh between 136 and 184 max
I am only 6ft tall and 240 # but I am large boned I can easliy palm a basketball and I wear a size 14/15 shoe depending on style
When I was skinny with 6 pack abs up to my late 30"s I weighed 210 #
so before the end of next year I plan to be a very healthy 210 lb. clyde
and at 210 lbs. it says I will still be border line obese
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Old 12-26-12, 10:40 PM   #11
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I wonder if the OP realizes the designation "Clydesdale" also applies to a cyclist over six feet tall? Does he suggest that someone 6'3", 199 pounds have three inches cut off to avoid the dreaded designation?
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I wonder if the OP realizes the designation "Clydesdale" also applies to a cyclist over six feet tall? Does he suggest that someone 6'3", 199 pounds have three inches cut off to avoid the dreaded designation?
I believe that is not true... There may have been some sort of classification in that regard at one time or the other but somebody else on this forum disabused me of the notion that a 6+ footer is always a clyde.

I'm hovering at about 220 since July... I need to come up with a workable strategy to knock that last 30 pounds off but I'll always feel like a Clyde - it's a state of mind.
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Old 12-26-12, 11:11 PM   #13
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I am sure i will still be a Clyde at the end of 2013. I have 80 pounds to lose. The doctor said i was not overweight, but obese. I need to lose 60 pounds to be overweight. As another person said, i am also big boned and have broad shoulders. I don't think being 6 foot and 220 lbs is overweight. Can't wait to get down to that weight. I plan to ride everyday as soon as i get moved and buy my bike.
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WEight wise no but I will likely always be over 6' although I use to be 6'1.5" I am now 6' 0.5". I've shrunk an inch since highschool!!
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I haven't been below 200# but once in the last thirty years. Ideally I should be 174# or less (according to the chart) and that is probably right (or a little light). In boot camp ('66) I dropped to 168# and that was a good weight for me at age 23. By simply being a little cautious about choices in food and portion control I am slowly losing some weight but starting at 255# I have quite a ways to go. My goal is 190# right now but it is a moving target.
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Old 12-27-12, 08:30 AM   #16
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I wonder if the OP realizes the designation "Clydesdale" also applies to a cyclist over six feet tall?
That's always been my understanding.
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Old 12-27-12, 09:27 AM   #17
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I'm over 6' and for me to get below 200# I will have to lose way too much muscle mass. 210-215 is my favorite weight. I have 20#of fat to lose and I'll be there. Last year I started at nearly 265 so I consider it a healthy rate of loss and I don't want to get on the diet yo-yo.

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I wonder if the OP realizes the designation "Clydesdale" also applies to a cyclist over six feet tall? Does he suggest that someone 6'3", 199 pounds have three inches cut off to avoid the dreaded designation?
That said, I'll always be a Clydesdale aside from my height. I've yet to meet anyone who suggests I should weigh less than 210. This includes my doctor.
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Doubtful. Unless I can shed about 70lb, I'll still be a clyde. I was once down to about 190 when I was 19 years old (Atkins Diet), and looked way too thin. I've got a large skeletal frame and am 6'2". A comfortable weight for me would probably be around 210-220. My doctor even told me that 225-230 would be an ideal weight for me.

If I could just get down to about 230 (40lb loss) by the end of 2013, I would be happy. That's probably doable.
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Physiologically incapable of being a Clyde. However, my build makes it likely I'll always be an Athena.
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According to BMI charts, 6'0" and 221 lbs puts you in the obese category. 6'0" and 184 lbs - 220 lbs puts you in the overweight category. 6' 0" and 140 lbs - 183 lbs puts you in the normal category.

I'm not 6'0" (I'm 5' 10") so I need to get to 173 lbs before I hit the normal category for my height. I think that the BMI charts are a pretty accurate reflection of where we should be for normal weight. I believe that most of us have developed a skewed view of what "normal" weight is. I know I had. I always thought that I was "big boned" or had a "large frame." And yes, I probably do have a large frame (I wear a 50" suit jacket.) And, I carry my weight well. Most people are stunned when I tell them I'm 215, 225, or 235 (it's crept upwards over the years.) They tell me that they thought I was a muscular 200 lbs. I thought of myself as the exception to the BMI charts... I had a large frame, I was muscular, I was athletic. Yes, all those things are true... but they don't make me the exception. At the time in my life that I was the most muscular, strongest, fastest, and most athletic... I weighed 163 lbs. At that time I can say that I was a finely tuned athlete... I'm a far cry from it now.

I know that until I fully accepted that I was obese, I was not going to do anything about it. I've lied to myself long enough. I'll look and feel great at under 200 lbs (overweight.) But the ultimate goal is to just be normal... under 173, and feel "normal."

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Yes, I will be a Clyde at the end of 2013. I'm at 360 right now so my main goal for 2013 is to break the 300 pound barrier. I have not been under 200 since 1966--before most of you were born. I was a skinny 195 pound football player, doing everything I could to bulk up at that time. I drank a concoction that included raw eggs, Ovaltine, papaya, peanut butter and some magic weight gain powder in an effort to gain weight. By the time I was done playing football, I weighed 245 and was in terrific shape. Those old eating habits die hard. I will turn 65 in the coming year and I want 2013 to be a turning point for my weight and fitness level. Biking and the C&A group has propelled me down the road to a new me. Thanks and a Happy New Year to you all!
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Being 6'3" tall, (190.5cm), I will always be a clyde.
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According to BMI charts, 6'0" and 221 lbs puts you in the obese category. 6'0" and 184 lbs - 220 lbs puts you in the overweight category. 6' 0" and 140 lbs - 183 lbs puts you in the normal category.

I'm not 6'0" (I'm 5' 10") so I need to get to 173 lbs before I hit the normal category for my height. I think that the BMI charts are a pretty accurate reflection of where we should be for normal weight. I believe that most of us have developed a skewed view of what "normal" weight is. I know I had. I always thought that I was "big boned" or had a "large frame." And yes, I probably do have a large frame (I wear a 50" suit jacket.) And, I carry my weight well. Most people are stunned when I tell them I'm 215, 225, or 235 (it's crept upwards over the years.) They tell me that they thought I was a muscular 200 lbs. I thought of myself as the exception to the BMI charts... I had a large frame, I was muscular, I was athletic. Yes, all those things are true... but they don't make me the exception. At the time in my life that I was the most muscular, strongest, fastest, and most athletic... I weighed 163 lbs. At that time I can say that I was a finely tuned athlete... I'm a far cry from it now.

I know that until I fully accepted that I was obese, I was not going to do anything about it. I've lied to myself long enough. I'll look and feel great at under 200 lbs (overweight.) But the ultimate goal is to just be normal... under 173, and feel "normal."
BMI is a joke. As stated earlier, my doctor recommended a weight of about 225-230, which puts me at a BMI of nearly 30 (the threshold between Overweight/Obese). Why on earth would she do that if it wasn't healthy?

Percentage of body fat will give you accurate numbers - but even then, lower % of body fat doesn't always mean 'more healthy'. Some people can eat junk food, smoke, and stay thin. Others exercise, eat healthy, and don't pollute their bodies, yet they are 'overweight' or 'obese'.

I may be considered well beyond 'obese', but my blood glucose, blood pressure, cholesterol values, etc. tell a very different story.
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Yes, I will be a Clyde at the end of 2013. I'm at 360 right now so my main goal for 2013 is to break the 300 pound barrier. I have not been under 200 since 1966--before most of you were born. I was a skinny 195 pound football player, doing everything I could to bulk up at that time. I drank a concoction that included raw eggs, Ovaltine, papaya, peanut butter and some magic weight gain powder in an effort to gain weight. By the time I was done playing football, I weighed 245 and was in terrific shape. Those old eating habits die hard. I will turn 65 in the coming year and I want 2013 to be a turning point for my weight and fitness level. Biking and the C&A group has propelled me down the road to a new me. Thanks and a Happy New Year to you all!
Good job for doing something about it. I was about 330lb just a few years ago. 18 months ago I was ~305. I know I can lose weight fast (I've lost 90lb within 2 months before), but I've decided to take the slow and steady, Lifestyle Change method instead of the 'miracle diet' method, this time around.
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