[QUOTE=melvinator;15208983]For a carbon fail is the reason i am not a big fan at all! QUOTE]
Like I said, I thought the same thing after reading carbon explodes blah blah blah. I had to step back and think, have I ever seen a broken carbon thread on the Clyde froum? If there was some, I must have missed them.
I have a friend that snapped a STEEL DeRos frame ($4000 bike in 1998). He was only 190 lbs.
OCRrick of the Socal forums is only 155 lbs and he snapped the downtube on his titanium frame.
BigJohn of Socal has snapped a steel frame in the past
I've snapped an aluminum frame and a CF/alum frame mix athe alum section.
I'm pretty sure MarkAdam has had a Kuota carbon frame crack. But it didn't explode like most would lead you to believe.
Heck, Gina snapped a cro moly steel rail on her saddle and she doesn't weigh nearly what I weigh, goes to show you.
My thoughts are 'everything" breaks sooner or later. Maybe some last longer but the guys I know that broke the steel are high mileage guys. The guys that broke carbon are high mileage guys. I say get a bike, ride the snot out of it then get another one when that one breaks.
My first full aluminum Lemond snapped on a steep climb. Near the seat tube, around the downtube, long huge crack. This one scared me thinking aluminum breaks this way. Make me wonder if my carbon frame developed a crack, I don't think it woud have been this bad since it is not as flmsy as aluminum. Really made me rethink "aluminum vs carbon debates". Not so sure I'd chose alum anymore.
This could have been daly on a steep descent. But don't think it would have happened on a descent, either way, an alum spear up the groins scares me!
My second Lemond carbon Alum mix sanpped at an aluminum section of the bike. I'm betting on design of the frame cut out. This mix frame was a much smoother ride than my full carbon Lemond. Not to mention a much better handling bike, very stable.
My friend's steel DeRosa...snapped after maybe 8000 miles 3 years. We bought our bike at the same time. He bought the steel DeRosa $4000 and I the CAD3 Cannondale $1050. He was 190 lbs and I was 230 lbs. I still have mine, he doesn't, not good for a steel vs aluminum debate haha!
Anything can happen to any material
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