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    From A Pile Parts To A Black Beauty.

    So for the last few months I have been trying to get my wife the biking bug and get her to put some time on the saddle with me (even thought she does not need it). She was use to MTB all her life and in response I had bought her a Fuji absolute 4.0 now that she has seen me on the road bike on our rides she notices the comfort advantages and speed advantages of a road bike. So I decided to get her a used bike and see if that might nudge her in the right direction. So I bought a pile of parts off craigslist a Cannondale R400 for 180 bucks and now after 2 months and slowly purchasing all new parts have put it together. New BB new headset bearings overhauled wheels (even though she needs a rear rim) new RDR sprockets etc etc etc and let me tell you it rides like a dream. Somehow she ended up with a better bike than me . So yesterday sitting on the couch I noticed her take out her bike and she said "going to the post office" and then later on the same day saying she was going to the mailbox. Long story short I notice now she is doing most of her close errands by bike! Idk about you guys but that sounds like the bug to me!

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    That is awesome. Dang, I wish there was such a thing as close errands around here.

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    Pretty nice and clean looking! Look like RSX shifters. If so, they can be stubborn at times. The right rear shifter especially. When they act up you'd swear you need a new shifter but a spray of wd 40 or similar will loosen it right up.

    She's also got the tighter rear triangle set up on that bike. S'posed to make for a stiffer frame. Hmm, I bet she drops you in a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Pretty nice and clean looking! Look like RSX shifters. If so, they can be stubborn at times. The right rear shifter especially. When they act up you'd swear you need a new shifter but a spray of wd 40 or similar will loosen it right up.
    seriously Beanz how the hell did you know that they are the RSX lol ?!. And they were and i did that exactly and it worked ... then i sprayed some lithium grease in there

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    She's also got the tighter rear triangle set up on that bike. S'posed to make for a stiffer frame. Hmm, I bet she drops you in a race.
    Now i am actually scared to have a race with her (gulp)

    I am dying to get a decent but not to expensive frame.. around 250 ... any ideas?
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    Senior Member melvinator's Avatar
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    i use to live in hudson near springhill and i know exactly what you mean the closes grovery store was a 15-20 minute drive doing 60mph lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinator View Post
    seriously Beanz how the hell did you know that they are the RSX lol ?

    ESP.............extra shifter preception



    As far as frames, from what I've seen of other riders and my own experience, I'd be happy with something like this. Yeah I know a sweet carbon frame sounds nice but IMO, this full carbon Madone I have is not as nice a ride as my Lemond. I know a couple of riders that eat of other guy son high end cf bikes so this won't slow you down.

    Not sure what bike you have now but you have to be sure with a new frame that the crank, front derailleur, head set will swap over or you're in for a bigger bill.

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    we have something in common then because i truly dislike carbon anything to be honest. I currently have a gravity liberty 1 from BD and i love the groupset and of course my new wheelset. What i do like about the Gravity liberty one is the relaxed position of the frame.
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    Nice bike!

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    I have heard a lot of good things about the nashbar alum or steel frame (for the money). If you watch them, they often have a 20% off coupon and free shipping, and the frames are dirt cheap...just have to buy a fork, but should be easy to stay well below 250 and get a new frame.

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    i actually have a surly fork i love and fit in the frame without being cut (lucky me) i know you like spending X amount of money and not having to worry about it... so what would you suggest i get if i could fork the extra $?
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    Ya know, after raing so many carbon fail threads, I was somewhat sort of a carbon sucks believer. But after 2 failed aluminum frames, this carbon frame does seem more solid. But we all read that aluminum is best for us big guys.

    Both alum frames failed at about 14,000 miles. It this carbon frame lasts 15,000, I will truly be impressed. Only got about 3000 so far but feeling strong.

    Still disappointed with the ride quality vs price factor. But that stems from so many "carbon is magical" threads on bike forums. Of course later you learn these types of magical claim posts are from guys that can't ride their bikes unless their bar tape matches the labels on their shoes. Not to mention later you find some have never done more than 20 miles. Seriously, I had a rider preaching to me on a ride how I need carbon for a better ride and I wouldn't be able to do a century on aluminum. Turns out he had never done more than 25 miles and I've done about 30 centuries on aluminum.


    I say ride the heck out of your bike and the wheels you got. Save your money then bike a bike that toots your horn after a couple years of riding.

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    For a carbon fail is the reason i am not a big fan at all! God i hope i can someday say i rode 15K on anything lol. How did the frames fail?

    That guys seriously gave you that crap??? i am sure there razors to shave their legs also match there kit and shoes.

    I have not been able to take a ride in a while without something breaking or going wrong -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinator View Post
    i actually have a surly fork i love and fit in the frame without being cut (lucky me) i know you like spending X amount of money and not having to worry about it... so what would you suggest i get if i could fork the extra $?

    here is their cheapest fork (carbon with alum steerer) full carbon is 140.00 http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...79_-1___202441

    here is their frame http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...02_-1___202389

    even if you get the full carbon fork this puts you under 250 and then if you wait till a 20% off for the frame, you can save another 20 bucks

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    [QUOTE=melvinator;15208983]For a carbon fail is the reason i am not a big fan at all! QUOTE]

    Like I said, I thought the same thing after reading carbon explodes blah blah blah. I had to step back and think, have I ever seen a broken carbon thread on the Clyde froum? If there was some, I must have missed them.

    I have a friend that snapped a STEEL DeRos frame ($4000 bike in 1998). He was only 190 lbs.

    OCRrick of the Socal forums is only 155 lbs and he snapped the downtube on his titanium frame.

    BigJohn of Socal has snapped a steel frame in the past

    I've snapped an aluminum frame and a CF/alum frame mix athe alum section.

    I'm pretty sure MarkAdam has had a Kuota carbon frame crack. But it didn't explode like most would lead you to believe.

    Heck, Gina snapped a cro moly steel rail on her saddle and she doesn't weigh nearly what I weigh, goes to show you.

    My thoughts are 'everything" breaks sooner or later. Maybe some last longer but the guys I know that broke the steel are high mileage guys. The guys that broke carbon are high mileage guys. I say get a bike, ride the snot out of it then get another one when that one breaks.

    My first full aluminum Lemond snapped on a steep climb. Near the seat tube, around the downtube, long huge crack. This one scared me thinking aluminum breaks this way. Make me wonder if my carbon frame developed a crack, I don't think it woud have been this bad since it is not as flmsy as aluminum. Really made me rethink "aluminum vs carbon debates". Not so sure I'd chose alum anymore.

    This could have been daly on a steep descent. But don't think it would have happened on a descent, either way, an alum spear up the groins scares me!








    My second Lemond carbon Alum mix sanpped at an aluminum section of the bike. I'm betting on design of the frame cut out. This mix frame was a much smoother ride than my full carbon Lemond. Not to mention a much better handling bike, very stable.





    My friend's steel DeRosa...snapped after maybe 8000 miles 3 years. We bought our bike at the same time. He bought the steel DeRosa $4000 and I the CAD3 Cannondale $1050. He was 190 lbs and I was 230 lbs. I still have mine, he doesn't, not good for a steel vs aluminum debate haha!

    Anything can happen to any material


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    steel2 by mrbeanz1, on Flickr

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinator View Post
    I have not been able to take a ride in a while without something breaking or going wrong -_-

    this sounds like me and my MTB. the yr and half of abuse is finally catching up and parts are getting replaced every paycheck.

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    Steel is real...I will keep on Truckin

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvinator View Post
    For a carbon fail is the reason i am not a big fan at all! God i hope i can someday say i rode 15K on anything
    I have 15 K on my Surly with a pretty serious wreck that bent the fork back about 2"...frame is still going strong. The LHT isn't a racer but she sure is tough...

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    FWIW, I have had my full carbon Livestrong Trek for about 2 years and roughly 16,000km (close to 10,000 miles), and so far no problem (tempting fate there perhaps! lol) I have been been in the range of 235-290lbs during that time (currently at the 235lb end! )

    Prior to that, I had a steel frame for about 7-8 years (custom made) that snapped once along the chainstay at the rear wheel.
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