Damn. was hoping they were the same thing Grrr well if its free it can't hurt to try. we shall see.
as for the shiritaki being 0 that is the POINT. its a 0. I love making pasta not because its pasta but because of what I put "ON" the pasta. everything I put ON the pasta is good and healthy its just the pasta itself that is not so good. the pasta is really just the carrier (I hope) for the "good stuff"
so if I can replace the carrier with shiritaki then problem solved.
try eating a bowl of pasta sauce. its just not very appetizing or satisfying.
a shiritaki dish is not 0 cal and 0 nutrition. you have the cals and nutrition of "what you put on it" but now (I hope) in a palatable form factor (pasta like)
see what I mean? I can now add more sauce more veggies more meat more "good stuff" since the pasta part got zeroed out nutritionally.
I probably won't like it though. I bet there is something about pasta itself that makes it good and will be lacking with shiritaki. I might try it anyway just to experiment.
my primary goal is to lose ton of weight without permanently damaging myself. I feel like there is a clock ticking down and if I don't get hyper active REAL soon (not days but months years) that irreversible damage is going to occur (36 years old)
one of the statements I made when i was on atkins and people said that's not healthy was
what is more damaging to my health. atkins of being 400 pounds. The answer is pretty obvious :-)
so as long as I don't damage myself I am game for whatever it takes. once I get off "enough" weight to be able to become truly aggressively physically active
I am very confident my problem will "fix itself" and I won't even have to think about training or exercise any longer it will just naturally happen. I can then focus on good nutrition and my natural desire to "do" things will take care of the training and exercise issue on its own. its just right now I can't do those things safely or effectively. too heavy.
Nature usually takes the path of least resistance. when your 455 pounds you become a nobel prize level expert at finding the lowest energy vectors possible. ie you become hyper efficient at expending as little energy as possible. When your 455 pounds its almost mandatory.
right way? wrong way? I have no idea. I just have this itching feeling on the back of my neck that I am on a dangerous cusp that if I don't do something relatively fast (next 2 years or sooner) that I am going to have serious and permanent repercussions in the long term if I don't already.
I have learned that my gut is not always right in fact usually never "quite" 100% right but also not something to ignore. its usually your sub conscious that knows something you conscious does not fully grasp yet and its trying to help itself by warning you.
this is part of why I am pushing SO HARD for this first 100 pounds.
I figure I should in theory be able to get SIGNIFICANTLY more active and aggressive at 350 pounds versus 455+ pounds.
I just need "enough" nutrition to function safely but only just enough. need maximum offloading of mass and quick :-) (1 year is quick in my book)