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    Big boy needs a bike!

    I'm 6'4", 440 lb, very wide rack (meaning I'm not just a fat guy, I'm a big & fat guy). I grew up on a bike, and I'm looking to get back on one. I started a diet and have dropped 15 or so lbs in the first 11 days, which I know will slow down. I also know that biking will be great exercise for me. I need some suggestions on a good bike for me. I'm thinking that a hybrid would be best for me. I live in a smaller town and am not close to mountain trails, but there are plenty of country roads to get on. I have a couple of fellow coaches who are willing to be riding partners with me, and I'm ready to get started. I know I need some serious wheels, with 36 spoke or more wheels (read something about a guy with wheels that had wheelchair spokes). Please give some real suggestions.

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    Look into some tandem wheels, rear wheel at least. Tandem hubs have bigger flanges and come in 48 spokes. We use them on our tandem with about equal your weight.

    Can get expensive as tandem hubs may cost $200 alone. So spokes and rim will only add to the cost. But if you have the money and the desire to ride......

    Tandem hub

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    At 440# its going to be a while before you really need anything other than something that can support your weight and get you out of the house - Hitting the hills and doing the back trails is father down the road - For now you need something to give you balance and stability - For that I would recommend an Industrial Bicycle - They can easily support your weight and latter on you can modify them for your developing needs - So what do you do around a guy of 440# that can charge up 12 flights of stairs - Get the hell out of his way when hes coming down...

    Good luck and do it - Don't delay...

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    Don't forget Trikes. I think TerraTrike has a custom Rover with a limit over 400#
    http://www.terratrike.com/rover.php

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    I recommend walking for now. Once you get under 400 the bike world opens up a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangowolf View Post
    Don't forget Trikes. I think TerraTrike has a custom Rover with a limit over 400#
    http://www.terratrike.com/rover.php
    +1 on the trike. Not cheap, but I've heard good things from many people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassjones View Post
    I recommend walking for now. Once you get under 400 the bike world opens up a bit more.
    I disagree. Walking is good exercise and not a bad idea, but there is no reason you can't ride as well. My suggestion is look for a steel touring frame (Surly Long Haul Trucker or Trek 520 are good options) or one of the older steel MTB framesets (Surly also makes the CrossCheck and a couple of MTB framesets that would be suitable) and get a good wheelset. 36 double butted spokes on a good hub, like a Deore LX, and double-walled eyeletted rims are a minimum (the LHT has wheels similar to this stock). Heavy touring wheels are a good option. Like Mr. Beanz said, a 40-spoke tandem hub might be a good idea. You can save a few $$$ by getting a tandem hub in a higher spoke count for the rear wheel and sticking with a 36-spoke wheel on a touring or MTB hub for the front (which carries less weight and doesn't deal with drive train forces). I really suggest getting your wheels built with a 4X pattern. I did and the difference in ride is very noticable and according to my wheel builder, it actually improves the strength of the wheel.

    Find a frameset that will allow you to have 32mm or wider tires for now as they will improve your ride and increase the life of your wheels. I've been using 40mm Schwalbe Smart Sams on my multi-surface trail bike and am very pleased with the performance and comfort. They are not nearly as slow as some people would lead you to believe. My average cruising speed is only a couple mph less than on my touring bike with 25mm tires and part of that is due to bike weight and geometry, not the tire size.

    When you look for a seat (saddle) remember that the width of the seat is based on the width of your pelvis, not the width of your buttocks. Being a big guy, you may need a wider seat, but don't make the mistake of getting a big, cushy barstool of a "comfort" saddle, you will pay for it in the end (pun intended).

    Good luck and welcome to the club.
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    +1 on the LHT I'm drooling over one of those myself

    Sounds like this guy will make frames, not sure of the price but.. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-frame-builder

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    I am a Rover owner. Got mine at 360lbs and a 60" waist. Zero pain from the seat, lifetime frame warranty too. "Utah Trikes" can custom-build a Rover any way you want it as well.



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    A Hybrid will typically have 135MM spacing on the rear hub, which is better than the 130MM spacing such as found on road bikes.
    That's GOOD, since you can build a wheel with less dish (more symmetrical spoke angles from one side to the other)
    IF you were to build a-
    135MM wheel with a TRUE 7 speed Free Hub body, that reduces the dish even more.
    Add an offset spoke bed rim, such as a Velocity Synergy OC
    and you have a wheel that is about 1-2MM from being truly symmetrical.
    With such a rim, 36 good quality double butted spokes should give a totally adequate wheel.

    IF you really want such a wheel, you might want to post in the Mechanics Forum. There's a couple VERY knowledgeable wheel builders that frequent that forum, that can give excellent recommendations as per components and WHY they would use the same.

    http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=563
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myosmith View Post
    My suggestion is look for a steel touring frame (Surly Long Haul Trucker or Trek 520 are good options)
    Did some digging around and found a 54 cm LHT frame. Is that close to the right size?

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    I can't offer any advice about equipment but welcome to BF!

    Enjoy your ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachH View Post
    Did some digging around and found a 54 cm LHT frame. Is that close to the right size?
    Not remotely close. You'll probably be closer to a 60 or 62.

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    as noted in other thread..... Classic steel frame, no suspension mountain bike. Normally not to hard to find used. clean and lube and put non knobby tires on. Ride. and remember the N+1 rule...there will be time for a newer, fancier bike as you are ready for it
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    looking for: De Rosa 58cm ELOS frame and fork internal cable routing

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    A 60cm LHT as an estimate would be around a 33.5" inseam a 56cm is around 32" not the be all end all in sizing but a rough estimate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fangowolf View Post
    A 60cm LHT as an estimate would be around a 33.5" inseam a 56cm is around 32" not the be all end all in sizing but a rough estimate
    Inseam is the least important factor, and if he's built like me (6'5 with a 32" inseam), top tube length becomes nearly impossible to get right with stand over clearance. I went with a compact 60, which is a compromise size which I can compensate for by using a long stem.

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    Surly sizes are larger than the stated size in my opinion. As in many people need one size down from what they ride in other bikes.

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    I found a used XL Giant Yukon Fluidform (2005) on Craigslist. Yes, no???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachH View Post
    I found a used XL Giant Yukon Fluidform (2005) on Craigslist. Yes, no???
    You want a bike that fits you. Knowing nothing about that bike, if it fits and is in reasonable shape at a good price, then it's an option.

    Go to a local bike store to try out different bikes and see what works for you.

    If you don't know a lot about bikes, bring a friend who knows something can be helpful, particularly when looking at used bikes.

    Cheers, Charles

    p.s. Without getting into suspension is good/bad, if you do get bike with suspension, make sure that it isn't fully compressed when you ride the bike.
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    Here is what the ad said:

    "hello all I am selling a 2005 Giant Yukon fluidform that has been modded for city riding. I put disc brakes and smaller tires. really fun and fast bike.
    the shox that it has on it is fine but i also have a rock shox tora 302 that i have not got around to putting on it. the extra shox will be a additional price unless you text me with details about a deal."

    So, not an English major, but not the point. What do you all think?
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    Good bike, buy it as is and ditch the suspension fork. Tell your LBS you need a Surly 1x1 fork, they should be able to get you one. Also throw away those stock pedals, get some big aluminum BMX platforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachH View Post
    Did some digging around and found a 54 cm LHT frame. Is that close to the right size?
    I'm 6'0" and wear a 32-34" pants inseam. I ride a 52cm touring frame with a seatpost with a slight setback and it fits me quite well. I'm guessing that 54 may be ridable for you (I have heard that the LHT geometry "feels" big) but something around 58-60 might be better. It all depends on your body proportions. I suggest stopping at a bike shop and trying a few frames in a similar style to get an idea of the appropriate range for you. Please buy some accessories from them and don't just use them as a free fit check for a used bike. Most bike shops don't mind people buying used bikes outside of the shop but they do appreciate the business and making friends at a good LBS will be valuable down the road.

    That Yukon might be a good deal, but I agree that you don't need a suspension fork unless you are going off road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_m_shooter View Post
    Good bike, buy it as is and ditch the suspension fork. Tell your LBS you need a Surly 1x1 fork, they should be able to get you one. Also throw away those stock pedals, get some big aluminum BMX platforms.
    There's one on evil bay right now... Not mine, just letting the OP know

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_m_shooter View Post
    Good bike, buy it as is and ditch the suspension fork. Tell your LBS you need a Surly 1x1 fork, they should be able to get you one. Also throw away those stock pedals, get some big aluminum BMX platforms.
    I agree with ditching the fork. But depending on the price of the bike and the cost of replacing the fork, this bike might not be such a great buy anymore (particularly if the OP needs to take it to a shop to get it done).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachH View Post
    Did some digging around and found a 54 cm LHT frame. Is that close to the right size?
    I was six feet with a 30" inseam and rode a 58 CM LHT. It still fits now that I'm two inches taller and have a longer inseam (knee replacement!). So I think your LHT is probably too small.

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