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Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) Looking to lose that spare tire? Ideal weight 200+? Frustrated being a large cyclist in a sport geared for the ultra-light? Learn about the bikes and parts that can take the abuse of a heavier cyclist, how to keep your body going while losing the weight, and get support from others who've been successful.

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Old 07-26-13, 03:21 PM   #26
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Hi,

Generally speaking getting into riding a bike will
cause weight loss for most people but not all people.

The people who lose the most react to the exercise
by changing their diet, not by only just exercising.

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Old 07-26-13, 04:47 PM   #27
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The people who lose the most react to the exercise
by changing their diet, not by only just exercising.

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Old 07-26-13, 07:59 PM   #28
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Riding a bike will not necessarily cause him to lose weight.
I've concluded that this is correct.
In a recent lecture about exercise, science writer Gary Taubes put the issue to the audience this way: if you were going to a big dinner party and the host told you to come hungry, how would ensure you showed up ready to eat? The audience responded, as most people would, by suggesting that they'd fast for most of the day and engage in some form of exercise, a long walk perhaps.

The point, says Taubes, is that exercise makes us hungry, which leads us to replace the calories burned by exercising and encourages weight gain. It's a clever hypothetical and many readers would probably treat it as no more. But the data backs it up.

At least four clinical trials have demonstrated that exercise tends to suppress resting metabolic rate. In all four studies overweight participants who engaged in 300-600 calories worth of daily exercise experienced a significant drop in resting metabolism. According to Drs. Jeff Volek and Stephen Phinney, “Although genetically lean people as a group may respond differently, when overweight humans do more than one hour of endurance exercise daily, resting metabolism on average declines between 5% and 15%.”
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Old 07-27-13, 08:17 AM   #29
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I tried to stay away from this thread - I really did.
At 50, mid-50, whatever, we aren't senile. We've lived and we have earned the right to make our own decisions - right or wrong. Anyone who thinks a 50-year old Clyde doesn't know the risks he runs with his lifestyle choices is living in a dream world.

He was a rider. He knows what is possible and what he has done.
You've offered. He's waffling if not declining.

Leave the man alone.

He's an adult. He's earned the RIGHT to not be annoyed, guilt-tripped or whatever by you - however well-meaning your concern and comments might be.

Sorry to be this blunt. But that's the way I see it.

If you don't like this view, wait til you're his age and YOUR Son-in-Law tells you you're not what you should be. Then come back and post about how that feels and what you did about it.
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Old 07-27-13, 08:26 AM   #30
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Wow. I really couldn't read some of the posts because I have labile hypertension and my cardiologist says its not good for me.

Back to the OP point, I think.

I have converted around a dozen people from dedicated couch potatoes to cycling. There have been a few relapses, but in general they are having fun.

I really should be getting a commission from the LBSs.

This is in spite of the facts that I have unimpressive biometrics (5'10", 205#), am slower than Christmas, and frankly am pretty stupid looking.

I never guilt or shame anyone. I don't tell them they need to reduce their carbon footprint or save rain forests, or promote Community or refute Capitalism.

I don't tell them they're lazy lazy lazy slobs if they don't ride, or that they will die slow miserable deaths if they don't take better care of themselves.

I just tell them how much fun it is, and interject stories, occasionally somewhat embellished, about my own experiences.

It works. Try it.
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Old 07-27-13, 08:51 AM   #31
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Hi,

Personally I think the participation thing is a very big red herring.

Its bonus for sure, but to be brutally honest pootling around on
a bike behind a five year old (where you should be) is not my
idea of a bike ride that would stir any sort of reminiscence.

In fact I'd say go out in a bike ride with him and give it some,
for a bit, "unintentionally", leading out. I'm sure he knows
about drafting, and probably knows in decent shape for his
age, as a pair with you up front, he would be able to keep
up quite easily, except for big hills of course.

What your after is he rides a lot full stop as his habit again,
and the daily commute is clearly the main opportunity to
address that issue, and an electric bike would ease that.

(snip)

You can take it easy, without being painfully slow.
You can push hard pedalling if you want to.

rgds, sreten.
I see where you're going with this, however, I would expect most overweight people, if asked by a skinny cyclist to go ride with them, would be concerned about being too slow, holding up the pace, boring the other rider, etc. To ride with a 5y/o may remove that pressure and help him be comfortable in going.
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Old 07-27-13, 12:08 PM   #32
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Moved from 50+ to Clydes/Athenas. I think the OP will get more support in this forum.
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Old 07-27-13, 02:58 PM   #33
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Moved from 50+ to Clydes/Athenas. I think the OP will get more support in this forum.
Maybe the OP's father in law will get more support.
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