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    Century-Worthy Clyde Saddle

    I'm an official Clyde (6'2", 235# and everything that I wear is at least 2XL) and I'm getting close to being century-capable again for the first time in quite a few years. I've put some time and effort into researching saddles but there are so many of them these days that it's bewildered me, given me a headache and made me realize I'm having some real trouble narrowing the field down from the hundreds of possibilities.

    I need something wide to accommodate my wide posterior and my memories of century rides years ago tell me that I'd be better off on one that has a major cutout.

    Any nominations or suggestions (brands, models, general advice, experiences or anything else either) from the Clyde/Athena community? Any/all input gratefully accepted.

    Thanks in advance for your help.

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    The best bet is to find a LBS that lets you try until you buy. For instance, Specialized will let you test saddles for a week or more, that is what I used and settled on a Romin.

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    Saddles are pretty personal. What some other person likes may not be what you will like.

    You may want to get started by measuring how wide of a saddle you need.

    This is the saddle I use and like:



    You can see why in the video, as the saddle flexes with your movement.



    There are some long-distance riders here on BF who favor this saddle, as well.

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    Serfas Vistoso 135mm wide and Forte Pro SL ~140mm wide if memory serves are great saddles. The Forte Pro is almost identical in shape to the Vistoso but it has the cutout. I've done 2 centuries on the Vistoso. Both are less than $50.

    Loaner program is the way to go if you've got the LBS. If not the above are good starting points and won't break the bank.

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    I am very happy with a WTB Silverado saddle, with Ni-Chr rails about $50 delivered on ebay.

    It's wide enough and has a relieved area for the "soft zones". As you can see, it's basically flat across the back. It's one saddle that doesn't feel like it's trying to split my pelvis in two!

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    Koobi Saddle is the most comfortable saddle I've used. It has a cutout and the PRS saddles are tuned to your weight. Their saddles are expensive, and are made by Selle Italia in Italy. They have a 30 day return policy if you don't like it. Their customer service and product are both top notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead View Post
    Saddles are pretty personal. What some other person likes may not be what you will like.

    You may want to get started by measuring how wide of a saddle you need.

    This is the saddle I use and like:



    You can see why in the video, as the saddle flexes with your movement.



    There are some long-distance riders here on BF who favor this saddle, as well.
    +1 Great clyde saddle

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    I'm an inch taller than you and fifteen pounds lighter. I've been using a Sella SMP Lite 209 on my bikes the past couple years. Instantly, from the very first ride, there was no numbness "down there". I ride a century, metric-century, or double metric-century about once every other month the past couple years, the longest ride being 136 miles. It does get a bit sore eventually, but I've always been able to complete the rides. SMP makes various widths and padding thicknesses. There is no rhyme or rhythm to their naming convention. I finally found a web site out of Oz that explained it all. They are not inexpensive, but their warranty is pretty good.
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    go to a shop that can measure your sit bones. Until then your are throwing $100+ per saddle you try.

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    To each his own where saddles are concerned. I've tried many over the years, Selle Anatomica are good, so are Brooks, I like VO saddles also, but I ended up on leather after years of "the latest, greatest things."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    go to a shop that can measure your sit bones. Until then your are throwing $100+ per saddle you try.
    This ^^^^
    Until you at least know the proper width that you need, you're only guessing. You can save a LOT of time, pain, and frustration by having a proper size nailed down and then testing size appropriate saddles.

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    I said this the other day. If you are going to purchase your saddle online try Nashbar. I purchased a Brooks Team Pro. I rode it a year then it sat another year while I recovered from surgery. I called and explained I want happy with the saddle but thought it had been over a year since I purchased. She looked and informed me it had been two years.
    I said I guess that changes me returning the saddle for exchange and she corrected me. They have a 100 percent satisfaction guarantee.

    I exchanged it for another Brooks, played the $8.00 difference and smile everytime I ride now.

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    It's a personal thing, I've gotten rid of 3 Brooks and a Selle Anatomica...I don't consider them top ten any longer. I think you need to find loaner, demo program...perhaps multiple LBS or on-line 100% satisfaction guarantee/swap policy, like Nashbar, REI(?), Walbike(?). Only way you'll find your personal preference. I like the Selle SMP line, but that's me.

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    you may want to look at the Selle SMP Avant. I rode 80 miles yesterday and my posterior was one of the few parts of my body that didn't hurt

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    The Adamo ISM type is yet another one for the pile. I'm a few rides in on an Adamo Century, but no way to tell long term what it will be like. So far I like it a lot. Definitely a different feel.

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    I second the measurement...

    Then try a Romin. Doesn't need to be too fancy, though I have a pro on each of my bikes (mostly because they look better). I'm comfy on a 143, but most seem to like the 155. I also really like Charge saddles, especially the Spoon.
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    I'm a fan of the Brooks and Velo Orange saddles. I used to have the Brooks Flyer pre-aged, but that was stollen . I now VO Model 5 on my LHT and the VO Model 3 on my commuterized mountain bike.
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    I read about somone just recently who returned a brooks to nashbar after riding it for a year... apparently they take their 100% satisfaction pretty seriously...

    while I don't recomend riding something and returning it a year later if you don't have a local shop that will work with you I'd consider going that way... you'd only be out shipping costs I'd imagine
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    go to a shop that can measure your sit bones. Until then your are throwing $100+ per saddle you try.
    I tend to think that this is fairly useless, since there's absolutely no standardization to the way saddles are measured.

    Going to your Specialized dealer, since they're the only ones who typically have a way to measure your sit bones, and being told that you need a certain width of saddle isn't going to help you unless you decide to buy one of their saddles. It also ignores the fact that width is only one of the many things that matters when buying a saddle. It's also important to consider the length of the saddle, the curvature, the amount of padding, etc. I'll admit that the Ass-o-meter is a great way to get people into Specialized stores but I] haven't found it to be particularly useful in purchasing a comfortable saddle from Specialized... or any other brand for that matter.

    A better approach is to try to identify what you don't like about your current saddle. Is it too wide? Too narrow? Too long? Too short? Too flat? Too curved? Too soft? Too firm? Once you've decided what you don't like, you can go to a local shop and have a better idea of what to buy. Heck, take your current saddle with you so you can do side-by-side comparisons or measure it yourself and perform similar measurements on the saddles in the store. You'll still want to purchase from a store with a liberal return policy, but at least you'll have a better idea of what to buy.

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    I, too, am a Clyde (6'1", 235#). I am 72 yrs old and just back on a bike after 30 years. I have spent hundreds of dollars on seats trying to get rid of the pain at the front of my perineum. The answer for me, after many trials, is the ISM (Adamo) Prologue (ismseat.com); it has no nose and is completely comfortable. The Adamo Prologue is the most comfortable seat I have ever used and I reccommend it without reservation. Never had a problem with my sit-bones by the way.

    I was a fairly successful club racer 50 years ago and always had trouble with seats. At first I used the ubiquitous Brooks B17 and then settled on the Swallow as being the least painfull. I was young and simply assumed that pain was part of road racing. I was wrong; no person, man or woman, should rest his privates on the equivalent of an axe handle.

    Now, fifty years later, I am not young, fit, tough or stupid. I have learned to question everything, including traditions and unnecessary discomfort. I also have a normally enlarged prostate gland and that doesn't help. I am told that most any man at fifty or more has this condition. I am also still forty pounds overweight (down from fifty).

    When I showed my Adamo to my family doctor, he said: "Hmm, that's kinda obvious isn't it."

    Lacumo, I hope this helps you find what you need. I know the Adamo design looks funny, but -- when you're sitting on it no one can see and, if you're like me, you'll feel like sitting on it a lot.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
    I, too, am a Clyde (6'1", 235#). I am 72 yrs old and just back on a bike after 30 years. I have spent hundreds of dollars on seats trying to get rid of the pain at the front of my perineum. The answer for me, after many trials, is the ISM (Adamo) Prologue (ismseat.com); it has no nose and is completely comfortable. The Adamo Prologue is the most comfortable seat I have ever used and I reccommend it without reservation. Never had a problem with my sit-bones by the way.

    I was a fairly successful club racer 50 years ago and always had trouble with seats. At first I used the ubiquitous Brooks B17 and then settled on the Swallow as being the least painfull. I was young and simply assumed that pain was part of road racing. I was wrong; no person, man or woman, should rest rest his privates on the equivalent of an axe handle.

    Now, fifty years later, I am not young, fit, tough or stupid. I have learned to question everything, including traditions and unnecessary discomfort. I also have a normally enlarged prostate gland and that doesn't help. I am told that most any man at fifty or more has this condition. I am also still forty pounds overweight (down from fifty).

    When I showed my Adamo to my family doctor, he said: "Hmm, that's kinda obvious isn't it."

    Lacumo, I hope this helps you find what you need. I know the Adamo design looks funny, but -- when you're sitting on it no one can see and, if you're like me, you'll feel like sitting on it a lot.

    Cheers
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    wow... Incredible commentary.

    I've seen the ISM in pictures only, I've seen the Selle SMP at a store both seem to take the question of "what is supporting your body" and attempt to find a logical answer for "let's just support THAT.

    If you don't have access to one of those wonder saddles, they next step down is to say "ONE WITH LOTS OF FLEX".... After all, everyone knows it isn't about the padding, it is about supporting bones with the least amount of C R U S H.

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    I'm less than Clyde (5'10" 195). But... I switched to a Specialized Toupe+ (has a good cutout) and after a two day 205 mile jaunt..I had no, as in zero numb issues. The prior year...same ride, used an old Selle Italia (no cutout) and my taint was numb for two days. I picked up the Toupe+ as a new take-off saddle 45$ out of a box of saddles and after a little haggling with the very nice LBS manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Minton View Post
    I, too, am a Clyde (6'1", 235#). I am 72 yrs old and just back on a bike after 30 years. I have spent hundreds of dollars on seats trying to get rid of the pain at the front of my perineum. The answer for me, after many trials, is the ISM (Adamo) Prologue (ismseat.com); it has no nose and is completely comfortable. The Adamo Prologue is the most comfortable seat I have ever used and I recommend it without reservation. Never had a problem with my sit-bones by the way.

    I was a fairly successful club racer 50 years ago and always had trouble with seats. At first I used the ubiquitous Brooks B17 and then settled on the Swallow as being the least painfull. I was young and simply assumed that pain was part of road racing. I was wrong; no person, man or woman, should rest rest his privates on the equivalent of an axe handle.

    Now, fifty years later, I am not young, fit, tough or stupid. I have learned to question everything, including traditions and unnecessary discomfort. I also have a normally enlarged prostate gland and that doesn't help. I am told that most any man at fifty or more has this condition. I am also still forty pounds overweight (down from fifty).

    When I showed my Adamo to my family doctor, he said: "Hmm, that's kinda obvious isn't it."

    Lacumo, I hope this helps you find what you need. I know the Adamo design looks funny, but -- when you're sitting on it no one can see and, if you're like me, you'll feel like sitting on it a lot.

    Cheers
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    Good info, Joe. I've never heard of ISM saddles; they look very interesting!

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    Thanks for the thumbs up fellers! I tried two different borrowed Selle SMPs and still had some pain after a couple of hours. The softer of the two would have been the choice but my LHS loaned me an Adamo "Road" saddle and it was clearly better for me.

    I called Adamo down in Florida and they reccommended the Prologue for my size and riding goals. I ordered one (LHS) and it is perfect. Ordered another for the second bike. After the normal adjustments (Adamo's online instructions are simple and accurate), and a couple of weeks of getting used to the design. I no longer think about my butt -- except when pedalling the damned thing up a hill -- LOL

    BTW: The Cobb might be a good choice as well. I found the Adamo Prologue before I got round to buying a Cobb, which is hard to do with my fixed income. I understand that John Cobb worked for Adamo and designed their first noseless saddles, so, he should know what he is up to.

    P.S.: I think that many of us suffer pain and numbness and simply don't talk about it. Perhaps because we feel embarassed for some reason or accept, as I once did, that pain was part of the price. What c**p! Forget what the pros do -- they aren't really human anyway ;o)

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    I ride two the saddles mentioned above. I have a Specialized Evo Romin Gel on my Roubaix. I have the Selle Anatomica Titanico X on my Soma Double Cross. I've done 4 centuries on the Specialized and 1 on the Soma in the last year. Both have worked great, but the leather saddle is a bit more comfy. Could be the bike too?
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