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    Fitness, like Elvis, has left the building

    I can sympathize with TrojanHorse and the others that have missed time on the bike from injury.
    After having been off the bike for almost 8 weeks my endurance and power is down while the required effort and heart rate is jacked up like a meth head that just scored.

    I've done a couple rides which I used to be able to easily do in under two hours at an endurance HR now takes me 2hr 10, or more(!) at the high end of a tempo HR. and they are FLAT rides of 47'/mi gain. Sheeesh!

    A 3.6 mile segment takes me 1 min 20 seconds longer to do with the same avg HR values.
    The one mile long 2.8% hill repeat I used to do... add another 45 seconds to that effort with the same HR.

    This truly sucks.

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    Hang in there, it'll come back. Have you posted pics of the Supersix?

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    I hear ya. In my case, it was too bloody cold where I live to ride in the winter/early spring. Fitness still hasn't come back. I'm getting pretty concerned about it and am going to have a heart-to-heart chat with my doctor next time I see him. Strength is just not there, and at my age, I really cannot afford to let it slip too much. Only real difference is that I'm on a statin this year. I convinced him to cut my dose in half, as I made pretty good progress getting the cholesterol under control. He wouldn't let me discontinue completely, but I'm going to push for it when I next see him in a month or two.

    Yeah, it really sucks. My times are way off too. Not sure how I'm going to make out on my birthday ride in a couple of weeks. Have a ride of 132 miles scheduled, (I'll only need 124 to meet my birthday ride goal, double my age in miles and triple my age in kilometers). At least I'll have all day and won't be under any time constraints. Had "trouble" on a flattish 34-miler on Saturday. Ride went fine, and was able to pretty much meet my goals - but the rest of the day I was trashed and went back to bed for a couple of hours. Something's not right with the body . . . and it isn't age. Another indication that something's not right is that I had to sit down three times during my one-hour tennis lesson on Thursday night because I was getting really dizzy. Out of breath too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    I can sympathize with TrojanHorse and the others that have missed time on the bike from injury.
    After having been off the bike for almost 8 weeks my endurance and power is down while the required effort and heart rate is jacked up like a meth head that just scored.

    I've done a couple rides which I used to be able to easily do in under two hours at an endurance HR now takes me 2hr 10, or more(!) at the high end of a tempo HR. and they are FLAT rides of 47'/mi gain. Sheeesh!

    A 3.6 mile segment takes me 1 min 20 seconds longer to do with the same avg HR values.
    The one mile long 2.8% hill repeat I used to do... add another 45 seconds to that effort with the same HR.

    This truly sucks.
    Don't despair! After 8 weeks down I'd say you're doing great, keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbeasley View Post
    Hang in there, it'll come back. Have you posted pics of the Supersix?
    No I haven't. Not that savy with the whole computer stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by volosong View Post
    I hear ya. In my case, it was too bloody cold where I live to ride in the winter/early spring. Fitness still hasn't come back. I'm getting pretty concerned about it and am going to have a heart-to-heart chat with my doctor next time I see him. Strength is just not there, and at my age, I really cannot afford to let it slip too much. Only real difference is that I'm on a statin this year. I convinced him to cut my dose in half, as I made pretty good progress getting the cholesterol under control. He wouldn't let me discontinue completely, but I'm going to push for it when I next see him in a month or two.

    Yeah, it really sucks. My times are way off too. Not sure how I'm going to make out on my birthday ride in a couple of weeks. Have a ride of 132 miles scheduled, (I'll only need 124 to meet my birthday ride goal, double my age in miles and triple my age in kilometers). At least I'll have all day and won't be under any time constraints. Had "trouble" on a flattish 34-miler on Saturday. Ride went fine, and was able to pretty much meet my goals - but the rest of the day I was trashed and went back to bed for a couple of hours. Something's not right with the body . . . and it isn't age. Another indication that something's not right is that I had to sit down three times during my one-hour tennis lesson on Thursday night because I was getting really dizzy. Out of breath too.
    I had to read your first bit a few times as it didn't make too much sense to me...

    Southern California and too cold. Something just don't sound right.

    My doctor had me on high blood pressure medicine at one point in time. About 6 months (~2500 miles) or so after I started ridding the bike I went back for a physical and he looked at the stats the nurse had taken and proudly exclaimed that the medicine he had put me on was working and my BP was 'normal' and my other numbers, including cholesterol, were even better. He got deflated when I told him I had quit taking it and had just changed my diet and added "some" bike exercise.


    You getting enough carbs to meet the needs?
    As for being out of breath - I can't help you there. I went for a short run today and was sucking oxygen like I was climbing Everest.. really, can't even run a 10 min/mi pace without needing an O2 tank. Dag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    I had to read your first bit a few times as it didn't make too much sense to me...

    Southern California and too cold. Something just don't sound right.

    My doctor had me on high blood pressure medicine at one point in time. About 6 months (~2500 miles) or so after I started ridding the bike I went back for a physical and he looked at the stats the nurse had taken and proudly exclaimed that the medicine he had put me on was working and my BP was 'normal' and my other numbers, including cholesterol, were even better. He got deflated when I told him I had quit taking it and had just changed my diet and added "some" bike exercise.


    You getting enough carbs to meet the needs?
    As for being out of breath - I can't help you there. I went for a short run today and was sucking oxygen like I was climbing Everest.. really, can't even run a 10 min/mi pace without needing an O2 tank. Dag.
    I live in what they call the "high desert". It's been between 95 and 105 all summer long, (cooling off to the low to mid-70s at night). In the winter, it is frequently in the 30s and low 40s. A warm winter day would be in the mid to high 50s. Even though it is cold in the winter, since we are in the rain shadow on 3/4 of the sides of the valley, the direction weather comes from, it rarely snows here. I wasn't hurt . . . just didn't ride too much because it was uncomfortable with the chill. I don't cycle commute and with the short hours during the winter, can only cycle on weekends. If it was too cold, then I didn't ride.

    Doc put me on BP med a couple months ago too. There is a history of hypertension in the family tree, so I suppose that isn't unexpected. Your comment about carbs is interesting. I've cut down, mostly to help control the weight. Maybe that is what I'm lacking. I'll check into it. On the bottom line, the key is to lose about 40 pounds. Last time I did, about six years ago, I was able to discontinue all diabetes medicine. Everything else is normal too when my weight is normal. Something to strive towards. Thanks for your comments.
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    Ha ha, and you were laughing at me weren't you! Admit it! man, I've seen HRs this summer that I haven't seen in a long time, and on flat roads too.

    Good times.

    I'd give yourself at least 500 base miles before you start worrying about speed & whatnot.

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    You guys are scaring me, I'm in week 3 of no riding due to shoulder tendonitis... no end in site. I've been running 2 miles everyday but it just doesn't replace 100 - 150/week on the bike.

    I've got a nice recumbent exercise bike that I tried, unsuccessfully, to use prior to getting my bike. Do you think that would help maintain my fitness or should I run further?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Ha ha, and you were laughing at me weren't you! Admit it! man, I've seen HRs this summer that I haven't seen in a long time, and on flat roads too.

    Good times.

    I'd give yourself at least 500 base miles before you start worrying about speed & whatnot.
    No, I wasn't laughing at you. More like crying with you. At least I ain't had to walk up no hill yet.

    When I saw a HR of 171 ridding what I considered to be a flat ride of only 65'/mile I thought that my HR monitor was hosed... No such luck.

    Only good thing is I am going to Myrtle Beach the week of the 19th and be able to get in a few miles there.
    Talk about watch your dog run away for a week flat ride. I'm not sure what I'll do to find bridge repeats down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbeasley View Post
    You guys are scaring me, I'm in week 3 of no riding due to shoulder tendonitis... no end in site. I've been running 2 miles everyday but it just doesn't replace 100 - 150/week on the bike.

    I've got a nice recumbent exercise bike that I tried, unsuccessfully, to use prior to getting my bike. Do you think that would help maintain my fitness or should I run further?
    Running doesn't, or at least in my case didn't, help. 56 miles with 2,619' of elevation gain since the 22nd of July and pond water is still faster than me.

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