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    I'll chime in and say I'd echo MUCH of what's been said here, in terms of a CX bike. I'd wanted one, saved up, finally got to the point where I was ready and pulled the trigger a month ago. I now commute on it mostly, after swapping to some more puncture resistant tires. It's fantastic ... a 2012 Kona Jake ... and it's a nice complement to my roadie and my MTB.

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    Thanks for all the great info, opinions, and experiences with cross bikes. I am still on the fence and going to do my research since this is happening for a few months, but the reflections in here are great.

    My current thoughts are to get a Domane since I would want the speed over the ruggedness and turn the steel framed Schwinn I currently ride into a sort of "cross bike" since I can fit bigger tires in there without modifying anything. It is already sturdy and heavy, but the speed isn't there with a steel frame and there is no point in making it "lighter".

    Feel free to add more.
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    Will you be satisfied with Narrow tires ,? Road Bike. think you want 32 + wide , Cross ..
    Dont want drop bars .. Hybrid..

    dont like the fit of either?, change the fit, stem, saddle setback all that .

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    A lot of Tricross love here!! I have one as well.. It's a great bike.

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    I'm in the same boat kind of, was sure that I wanted a road bike but after looking at the way I would use it, bad roads, rail to trail, bad weather, I'm thinking a CX bike may be the way to go. I looked at a CrossCheck today and really liked it, but want to see what a few other companies have as well. I'm sure I will get a road bike at some point, weight goal reward maybe, but I think the CX fits my needs better for now. Story of my life; wants the Ferrari, drives a station wagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LabRat2k3 View Post
    I'm in the same boat kind of, was sure that I wanted a road bike but after looking at the way I would use it, bad roads, rail to trail, bad weather, I'm thinking a CX bike may be the way to go. I looked at a CrossCheck today and really liked it, but want to see what a few other companies have as well. I'm sure I will get a road bike at some point, weight goal reward maybe, but I think the CX fits my needs better for now. Story of my life; wants the Ferrari, drives a station wagon.

    You can still go fast, there is hope! But I know the feeling, just glad I am taking my time.

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    Good looking wagon. You Chicago boys can build some fast cars, those Outlaw Superstock guys are badass.

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    I don't believe that guy is a Chicago native, but there are some bigger and heavier cars around here that could run with that thing. I would totally choose that over a Lambo or Ferrari!

    Back on topic - I was reminded about a nice trail that is asphalt, crushed limestone, and dirt in the area that a lot of hardtail riders use and I am beginning to think a CX bike might be fun to ride on it. Although I do already have a MTB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown_Mike View Post
    Thanks for all the great info, opinions, and experiences with cross bikes. I am still on the fence and going to do my research since this is happening for a few months, but the reflections in here are great.

    My current thoughts are to get a Domane since I would want the speed over the ruggedness and turn the steel framed Schwinn I currently ride into a sort of "cross bike" since I can fit bigger tires in there without modifying anything. It is already sturdy and heavy, but the speed isn't there with a steel frame and there is no point in making it "lighter".

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    A performance CX bike is a great all-around bike for a clyde or anyone, IMO. After building two steel CX bikes, I finally went to this Carbon Fiber frame and selected all the components. The bike can keep up with the roadies on a group ride, is a great long-distance ride, it can cover any gravel road or trail in the midwest and could also be used for credit-card touring. It's a great road bike alternative, 98% of the speed but twice the utility. The larger 700x32 tires on the CX2 allow me to enjoy the smoother trails and gravel that are common in the Midwest.

    The ride quality is exceptional. the bike feels solid and is very responsive, but the tires provide the right amount of suppleness that is very enjoyable. If I need to maximize my speed by 2%, I still have a road bike.

    The bike will also take fenders and a rear rack. I expect the bike to become my #1 ride.

    I'm using a 105 series FC-5603 model crankset (originally a 50/39/30).
    See: http://compare.ebay.com/like/3707639...Types&var=sbar
    The older Shimano Ultegra FC-6603 and 105 FC-5603 cranksets have a 74BCD chainring bolt circle and finding a 28 or 26 or even a 24 teeth chainring is not too hard. I'm using a 26t Salsa inner chairing, but any 74BCD chainring will fit. The Ultegra FC-6703 uses a larger BCD size for the inner chainring, and I've never seen a 28 or 26 teeth chainring for these models.

    I've combined a Shimano 105 triple (50t, 39t & 26t) crankset with the 10 speed 12-27 cassette, I also have a 12-30 cassette for 15% plus climbs. This provides the range of a compact crankset with a 12-25 cassette while using just the large and middle chainring. The 39t middle chainring is good to 25 mph at a 100 rpm cadence. With the 26t small chainring and 27t rear cog combination can crawl up a 15% slope at 4.5 mph with a 60 rpm cadence.



    I'm using a 105 series FD-5703 front Derailleur and older 5603 brifters. I also installed a chain-catcher from K-Edge;





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    A Cyclocross bike might be adapted for your needs, but there are bikes that are designed for what you are trying to do. I came across this bike, the Jamis Bossanova, when shopping with my wife for bikes earlier this year. She ultimately went for a road bike, but this bike already comes with fenders, and disc brakes. If I were looking for a do everything bike to take camping, that could also handle bad weather, and long distance rides or light touring, even light trails, this one would be on my short list.
    http://www.bicycletimesmag.com/conte...amis-bossanova

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    Barrett, did you custom build that bike? I looked up Pedal Force and they only sell the frames. Do you remember what that ended up costing to build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown_Mike View Post
    Barrett, did you custom build that bike? I looked up Pedal Force and they only sell the frames. Do you remember what that ended up costing to build?
    Yes, I purchased the frame and sourced the components. I have about $1750 in it. Are you in Chicago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
    Yes, I purchased the frame and sourced the components. I have about $1750 in it. Are you in Chicago?
    Yep, NW side. By the Jeff Park L stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitown_Mike View Post
    Yep, NW side. By the Jeff Park L stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LabRat2k3 View Post
    Good looking wagon. You Chicago boys can build some fast cars, those Outlaw Superstock guys are badass.
    Midwesterners can make anything fast...it's the long winters.
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    I also set out to build a "do-all" bike for this season. I do a mix of timed events (triathlons), slow charity rides with family, and wanted to do some semi-supported centuries and day trips.

    I also wanted a bike that I could mold and adapt with time -- fat tires, skinny tires, SS, racks/bags, whatever. Eventually I'll replace the Surly with something newer, but I'd like for it to be useful in a 2nd or 3rd life.

    I ended up working with a local shop to build a Surly Cross Check from the frame up.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ross+check+105

    Since I took those pictures last fall, the setup has changed very little. I did swap to 700x25 Conti GP4000 and found that I added speed while not reducing ride quality.

    I now own two steel frame bikes that are set up very similarly. I use the Bianchi for smooth-road speed events (Tri's) and the Surly for most everything else. But since I'm not doing the Tri's to compete with anyone but myself, I could very much use the Surly for that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoxe View Post
    I also set out to build a "do-all" bike for this season. I do a mix of timed events (triathlons), slow charity rides with family, and wanted to do some semi-supported centuries and day trips.

    I also wanted a bike that I could mold and adapt with time -- fat tires, skinny tires, SS, racks/bags, whatever. Eventually I'll replace the Surly with something newer, but I'd like for it to be useful in a 2nd or 3rd life.

    I ended up working with a local shop to build a Surly Cross Check from the frame up.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ross+check+105

    Since I took those pictures last fall, the setup has changed very little. I did swap to 700x25 Conti GP4000 and found that I added speed while not reducing ride quality.

    I now own two steel frame bikes that are set up very similarly. I use the Bianchi for smooth-road speed events (Tri's) and the Surly for most everything else. But since I'm not doing the Tri's to compete with anyone but myself, I could very much use the Surly for that as well.
    I saw your build and was really intrigued about it. I went to another bike shop to check out the Jamis line of CX bikes and several of the reps made comments also about the Surly line. However they had me test ride a base model Jamis Nova Sport aluminum frame CX bike......Daddy likey!!

    I don't think I could go back to a steel bike if I want to go fast, I was almost scared at the snappiness of the frame and the lack of flex versus my current roadie. Granted we are comparing a lug steel frame that's 30+ years old to a brake new aluminum frame, but I think I will skip the steel framed cro-mo bikes this time around and potentially turn the old Schwinn into a tourer. I can ride that thing all day.

    My only dislike about the CX bike was I felt the frame was a little to "relaxed" when I was riding it. I guess I prefer the more aggressive riding position, so I might lean more towards the Domane or I have really liked the Jamis Ventura Race setup.
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