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Old 08-26-13, 09:25 AM   #1
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Sub 5 hour ridding time Century. What does it take? Perhaps some answers.

I was at Myrtle Beach S.C. last week and took a bike because I can't play that much golf or sit on the beach forever.
Having been there before but not with a bike I found that I never realized that the place was so flat. Terrain consisted of an overpass and three bridges - one of them being over the Intercoastal Waterway and one over some river by a paper mill that was... wait for it, an entire .4 miles at an avg grade of 4%. Woo Hoo! Bridge repeats that I saw some folks 'cross training' on.

Took the bike out on the first day I got there and decided to ride past where I had taken a couple of Gators in previous years. Heck it's only 40 miles or so down the road, why not right?. Ended up doing a "top of Z2 training zone" ride Century and had to stop at what seemed like every stoplight along the way. I also had to stop to refill the water bottles and grab some Cliff bars.

Really? Only 778' of gain in 100 miles. That's just stupid flat.

Found after that I was disinterested in ridding a bike down there. Never could live someplace that was that boring to ride. Give me 50'/mil gain and I'm much happier.

http://app.strava.com/activities/77288251

Data form Garmin Connect

Distance: 102.94 mi
Time: 4:52:25
Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
Elevation Gain: 778 ft
Avg Temperature: 79.8 F

Elapsed Time: 5:15:23
Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
Max Speed: 34.9 mph

Elevation
Elevation Gain: 778 ft
Elevation Loss: 768 ft
Min Elevation: -26 ft
Max Elevation: 64 ft

Heart Rate
Avg HR: 140 bpm
Max HR: 155 bpm

Power
Avg Power: 197 W
Max Power: 746 W
Max Avg Power (20 min): 224 W
Normalized Power (NP): 206 W
Intensity Factor (IF): 0.791
Training Stress Score (TSS): 303.6
Work: 3,440 kJ

Cadence
Avg Bike Cadence: 89 rpm
Max Bike Cadence: 125 rpm

While I have done 50 miles at 20 mph avg - http://app.strava.com/activities/73457624 - which had 44'/mi that was a tempo ride. Would have been nice to try a low tempo century. Maybe next year I can do a 4:30 moving time deal.

So in summary, if you are looking to do a sub 5 hr moving time century, I suggest someplace that is flat as the beach. It's *stupid* easy then.

In all about 300 miles of the most boring bike ridding I have ever done for a week. Came home Saturday and did the CITI century in PA yesterday which had 6,300' of gain. Much better! Glad to be back home.
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How the heck did you get up to 35 mph when it was so flat. The downside of an overpass?
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Wow, I guess this means you're recovered from your "injury" that you apparently "suffered"



Nice work, averaging 20 mph for even 1 hour is no joke.
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By the way, did you ever post any kind of comparo between your TCR and your SS? I missed it if you did but it sounds like you're getting along fine with your new ride. I assume you got zipp 404s out of the perp.
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I don't have anywhere that flat for that distance in under 110* temps. Desert riding has other elements in mind as well and not appealing to me. Like lack of Water and wind.

My last weekend's century was the closest I got to a 5hr century ride in a long time and what I'd call close to flattest I can get though I did pick the hard way home. I hit the 100 mile mark around 5h20 min range and was still climbing. I had 19.4mph ave before the real climb started at mile 93.
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How the heck did you get up to 35 mph when it was so flat. The downside of an overpass?
Taking advantage of what gravity, and the intercoastal overpass gave me
Most of it's just

Put the power meter on 200 and keep pedalin' and get bored to death. There was a 20 mile stretch that looks like my cadnece went to 0 twice.
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Wow, I guess this means you're recovered from your "injury" that you apparently "suffered"



Nice work, averaging 20 mph for even 1 hour is no joke.
I'm not fully recovered. Tried pulling back my bow the other day. The stingin pain told me not to do that again.

As for 20 mph. Been there done that up here for 50 at 45'/mile. Just need to work on doing it for longer...
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By the way, did you ever post any kind of comparo between your TCR and your SS? I missed it if you did but it sounds like you're getting along fine with your new ride. I assume you got zipp 404s out of the perp.
Never did a comparison post. They both have wheels, pedals and brakes; just watch the power meter and make the pedals go round to the tune of what's called for that day. I've yet to really sort out the fit of the SuperSix as my shoulder still gives me problems. Once I think I've completely sorted that bit I can have a proper fit done.

As for the perp.. haven't seen a dime from the accident yet. ZIPPs would not be on the menu. I'd do a crank based power meter setup first as my aero gut would surely negate any benefit from aero type wheels.
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I don't have anywhere that flat for that distance in under 110* temps. Desert riding has other elements in mind as well and not appealing to me. Like lack of Water and wind.

My last weekend's century was the closest I got to a 5hr century ride in a long time and what I'd call close to flattest I can get though I did pick the hard way home. I hit the 100 mile mark around 5h20 min range and was still climbing. I had 19.4mph ave before the real climb started at mile 93.
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Nothing to sneeze at. Once gains starts getting thrown into the equation it makes it harder. Gravity just flat sucks.
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A 5 hour solo Century is no joke, congrats!

It's also very flat in most of Illinois, but I'm still about 2.5 mph off that pace . Do you know of any place without traffic or intersections?

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Were you riding solo for this effort btw? I forgot to ask, just assumed.

I think i averaged 14.5 on my century last weekend and that about did me in. I went from just being slow on hills to being abominable and slow on hills.

jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!
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A 5 hour solo Century is no joke, congrats!

It's also very flat in most of Illinois, but I'm still about 2.5 mph off that pace . Do you know of any place without traffic or intersections?

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/205482726

Thanks. It was pretty anticlimactic.

Been to Illinois where it's flat and only shotguns or black powder weapons are allowed for that reason. You could end up killing something 3 counties over if you weren't careful with a rifle.

As for places without traffic or intersections....

If I could find that place I'd move there.
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Were you riding solo for this effort btw? I forgot to ask, just assumed.

I think i averaged 14.5 on my century last weekend and that about did me in. I went from just being slow on hills to being abominable and slow on hills.

jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!
Yep, solo. Just me getting bored to tears.

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...being abominable and slow on hills
driveway issues still?

You can always ressurect the "I walked my first hill" thread..
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jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!
few yrs ago there was a large socal BF group that put on a ride for the Amtrack Century route, had our own SAG, lots of people showed up. Close to 50 or so mobbing down the coast in Decemeber. I remember that I had my Xmas party the nite before, got home @ 3am, woke up at 5am, and buddy drove my car to Irvine while I got an extra hr of sleep. Riding a century on 3hrs of sleep, hang over and powered by donuts lead to some hunger problems around mile 60 where I stopped for 2 carne asada burritos

Yah and Palm springs....I couldn't go fast even if I wanted too...
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You can always ressurect the "I walked my first hill" thread..
I always have driveway issues but no hill walking (yet). I need to go see if I can ride up turnbull canyon near me to see if I can handled it. Maybe today or tomorrow if I get lucky with time management.

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Yah and Palm springs....I couldn't go fast even if I wanted too...
If I recall correctly, the last we saw of you was your jersey flapping in the wind as you pulled away on your 2-speed bike.

There's an OC ride coming up ... 9/21 I think 70 miles and maybe 4k of hills, so not bad. it's buried in the thread on the so-cal forum about best rides in OC.
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Well, if you can average 21.1, pick a route with fewer stoplights next time.
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I was at Myrtle Beach S.C. last week and took a bike because I can't play that much golf or sit on the beach forever.
Having been there before but not with a bike I found that I never realized that the place was so flat. Terrain consisted of an overpass and three bridges - one of them being over the Intercoastal Waterway and one over some river by a paper mill that was... wait for it, an entire .4 miles at an avg grade of 4%. Woo Hoo! Bridge repeats that I saw some folks 'cross training' on.

Took the bike out on the first day I got there and decided to ride past where I had taken a couple of Gators in previous years. Heck it's only 40 miles or so down the road, why not right?. Ended up doing a "top of Z2 training zone" ride Century and had to stop at what seemed like every stoplight along the way. I also had to stop to refill the water bottles and grab some Cliff bars.

Really? Only 778' of gain in 100 miles. That's just stupid flat.

Found after that I was disinterested in ridding a bike down there. Never could live someplace that was that boring to ride. Give me 50'/mil gain and I'm much happier.

http://app.strava.com/activities/77288251

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Distance: 102.94 mi
Time: 4:52:25
Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
Elevation Gain: 778 ft
Avg Temperature: 79.8 F

Elapsed Time: 5:15:23
Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
Max Speed: 34.9 mph

Elevation
Elevation Gain: 778 ft
Elevation Loss: 768 ft
Min Elevation: -26 ft
Max Elevation: 64 ft

Heart Rate
Avg HR: 140 bpm
Max HR: 155 bpm

Power
Avg Power: 197 W
Max Power: 746 W
Max Avg Power (20 min): 224 W
Normalized Power (NP): 206 W
Intensity Factor (IF): 0.791
Training Stress Score (TSS): 303.6
Work: 3,440 kJ

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Avg Bike Cadence: 89 rpm
Max Bike Cadence: 125 rpm

While I have done 50 miles at 20 mph avg - http://app.strava.com/activities/73457624 - which had 44'/mi that was a tempo ride. Would have been nice to try a low tempo century. Maybe next year I can do a 4:30 moving time deal.

So in summary, if you are looking to do a sub 5 hr moving time century, I suggest someplace that is flat as the beach. It's *stupid* easy then.

In all about 300 miles of the most boring bike ridding I have ever done for a week. Came home Saturday and did the CITI century in PA yesterday which had 6,300' of gain. Much better! Glad to be back home.
You better not move to Maryland's Eastern Shore - about that flat here. We're the runoff from the Appalachian Mountains (or so I've been told). Funny how one little state can be so different.
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You better not move to Maryland's Eastern Shore - about that flat here. We're the runoff from the Appalachian Mountains (or so I've been told). Funny how one little state can be so different.
Yeah, that bit is flat as well. I hunt Sika over that way. (Blackwater)
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Couple years back, I made a special trip to Tennessee and did this one. 100 miles in 4:05 (with a group and following SAG wagon). Intersections were controlled so we never had to stop. Did come across a train crossing once, though, and had to stop for 3-5 mins while it crossed. I'd like to do it again. Nothing like riding with Kent Bostick and 50 of your closest hi-speed friends trying to break 4 hours
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^^^ that sounds like my ideal way to ride!! I think I can hang no problem as long as I didn't have to go to the front too often. But then again it depends on the group and # of peps not willing to work.
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Yeah, that bit is flat as well. I hunt Sika over that way. (Blackwater)
Visiting this weekend. There's a long ride I like out there that totals almost 80. Thinking of trying it on the fixed gear this year...
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Admirable and truy enviable performance stats; probably pretty far from typical for the Clyde/Athena community.
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Visiting this weekend. There's a long ride I like out there that totals almost 80. Thinking of trying it on the fixed gear this year...
That would be the way to do any flat rides. Kowing what I do now I could have just taken a 52x19 setup and rode.
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Admirable and truy enviable performance stats; probably pretty far from typical for the Clyde/Athena community.
Thanks however there are folks that visit here that I know are capable of doing the same. Some have even posted that they want to do a sub 5 moving time century, hoping that the numbers; especially the power numbers show what it would take. They are not in any way, imho, strong numbers.

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