Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 26
  1. #1
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Sub 5 hour ridding time Century. What does it take? Perhaps some answers.

    I was at Myrtle Beach S.C. last week and took a bike because I can't play that much golf or sit on the beach forever.
    Having been there before but not with a bike I found that I never realized that the place was so flat. Terrain consisted of an overpass and three bridges - one of them being over the Intercoastal Waterway and one over some river by a paper mill that was... wait for it, an entire .4 miles at an avg grade of 4%. Woo Hoo! Bridge repeats that I saw some folks 'cross training' on.

    Took the bike out on the first day I got there and decided to ride past where I had taken a couple of Gators in previous years. Heck it's only 40 miles or so down the road, why not right?. Ended up doing a "top of Z2 training zone" ride Century and had to stop at what seemed like every stoplight along the way. I also had to stop to refill the water bottles and grab some Cliff bars.

    Really? Only 778' of gain in 100 miles. That's just stupid flat.

    Found after that I was disinterested in ridding a bike down there. Never could live someplace that was that boring to ride. Give me 50'/mil gain and I'm much happier.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/77288251

    Data form Garmin Connect

    Distance: 102.94 mi
    Time: 4:52:25
    Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
    Elevation Gain: 778 ft
    Avg Temperature: 79.8 F

    Elapsed Time: 5:15:23
    Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
    Max Speed: 34.9 mph

    Elevation
    Elevation Gain: 778 ft
    Elevation Loss: 768 ft
    Min Elevation: -26 ft
    Max Elevation: 64 ft

    Heart Rate
    Avg HR: 140 bpm
    Max HR: 155 bpm

    Power
    Avg Power: 197 W
    Max Power: 746 W
    Max Avg Power (20 min): 224 W
    Normalized Power (NP): 206 W
    Intensity Factor (IF): 0.791
    Training Stress Score (TSS): 303.6
    Work: 3,440 kJ

    Cadence
    Avg Bike Cadence: 89 rpm
    Max Bike Cadence: 125 rpm

    While I have done 50 miles at 20 mph avg - http://app.strava.com/activities/73457624 - which had 44'/mi that was a tempo ride. Would have been nice to try a low tempo century. Maybe next year I can do a 4:30 moving time deal.

    So in summary, if you are looking to do a sub 5 hr moving time century, I suggest someplace that is flat as the beach. It's *stupid* easy then.

    In all about 300 miles of the most boring bike ridding I have ever done for a week. Came home Saturday and did the CITI century in PA yesterday which had 6,300' of gain. Much better! Glad to be back home.

  2. #2
    Senior Member volosong's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Antelope Valley, SoCal
    Posts
    2,510
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    How the heck did you get up to 35 mph when it was so flat. The downside of an overpass?
    Deut 6:5

    ---

    "Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is 'never get involved in a land war in Asia'".
    - Vizzini during his "battle of wits" with the Man in Black

  3. #3
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix
    Posts
    8,039
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wow, I guess this means you're recovered from your "injury" that you apparently "suffered"



    Nice work, averaging 20 mph for even 1 hour is no joke.

  4. #4
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix
    Posts
    8,039
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    By the way, did you ever post any kind of comparo between your TCR and your SS? I missed it if you did but it sounds like you're getting along fine with your new ride. I assume you got zipp 404s out of the perp.

  5. #5
    got the climbing bug jsigone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    one for everything
    Posts
    7,107
    Mentioned
    17 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I don't have anywhere that flat for that distance in under 110* temps. Desert riding has other elements in mind as well and not appealing to me. Like lack of Water and wind.

    My last weekend's century was the closest I got to a 5hr century ride in a long time and what I'd call close to flattest I can get though I did pick the hard way home. I hit the 100 mile mark around 5h20 min range and was still climbing. I had 19.4mph ave before the real climb started at mile 93.
    107.9mi Distance
    3,862ft Elevation
    05:52:29 Moving Time
    4,858 Calories
    Elapsed Time 06:31:59
    Max Speed 41.4mi/h
    Avg Speed 18.4mi/h

    http://app.strava.com/activities/75444598

  6. #6
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by volosong View Post
    How the heck did you get up to 35 mph when it was so flat. The downside of an overpass?
    Taking advantage of what gravity, and the intercoastal overpass gave me
    Most of it's just

    Put the power meter on 200 and keep pedalin' and get bored to death. There was a 20 mile stretch that looks like my cadnece went to 0 twice.

  7. #7
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Wow, I guess this means you're recovered from your "injury" that you apparently "suffered"



    Nice work, averaging 20 mph for even 1 hour is no joke.
    I'm not fully recovered. Tried pulling back my bow the other day. The stingin pain told me not to do that again.

    As for 20 mph. Been there done that up here for 50 at 45'/mile. Just need to work on doing it for longer...

  8. #8
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    By the way, did you ever post any kind of comparo between your TCR and your SS? I missed it if you did but it sounds like you're getting along fine with your new ride. I assume you got zipp 404s out of the perp.
    Never did a comparison post. They both have wheels, pedals and brakes; just watch the power meter and make the pedals go round to the tune of what's called for that day. I've yet to really sort out the fit of the SuperSix as my shoulder still gives me problems. Once I think I've completely sorted that bit I can have a proper fit done.

    As for the perp.. haven't seen a dime from the accident yet. ZIPPs would not be on the menu. I'd do a crank based power meter setup first as my aero gut would surely negate any benefit from aero type wheels.

  9. #9
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    I don't have anywhere that flat for that distance in under 110* temps. Desert riding has other elements in mind as well and not appealing to me. Like lack of Water and wind.

    My last weekend's century was the closest I got to a 5hr century ride in a long time and what I'd call close to flattest I can get though I did pick the hard way home. I hit the 100 mile mark around 5h20 min range and was still climbing. I had 19.4mph ave before the real climb started at mile 93.
    107.9mi Distance
    3,862ft Elevation
    05:52:29 Moving Time
    4,858 Calories
    Elapsed Time 06:31:59
    Max Speed 41.4mi/h
    Avg Speed 18.4mi/h

    http://app.strava.com/activities/75444598
    Nothing to sneeze at. Once gains starts getting thrown into the equation it makes it harder. Gravity just flat sucks.

  10. #10
    Have bike, will travel Barrettscv's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Windy City
    My Bikes
    Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Origin8 monstercross, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2
    Posts
    9,464
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    A 5 hour solo Century is no joke, congrats!

    It's also very flat in most of Illinois, but I'm still about 2.5 mph off that pace . Do you know of any place without traffic or intersections?

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/205482726
    Last edited by Barrettscv; 08-26-13 at 12:40 PM.
    When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.

  11. #11
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix
    Posts
    8,039
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Were you riding solo for this effort btw? I forgot to ask, just assumed.

    I think i averaged 14.5 on my century last weekend and that about did me in. I went from just being slow on hills to being abominable and slow on hills.

    jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!

  12. #12
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Barrettscv View Post
    A 5 hour solo Century is no joke, congrats!

    It's also very flat in most of Illinois, but I'm still about 2.5 mph off that pace . Do you know of any place without traffic or intersections?

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/205482726

    Thanks. It was pretty anticlimactic.

    Been to Illinois where it's flat and only shotguns or black powder weapons are allowed for that reason. You could end up killing something 3 counties over if you weren't careful with a *****.

    As for places without traffic or intersections....

    If I could find that place I'd move there.

  13. #13
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Were you riding solo for this effort btw? I forgot to ask, just assumed.

    I think i averaged 14.5 on my century last weekend and that about did me in. I went from just being slow on hills to being abominable and slow on hills.

    jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!
    Yep, solo. Just me getting bored to tears.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    ...being abominable and slow on hills
    driveway issues still?

    You can always ressurect the "I walked my first hill" thread..

  14. #14
    got the climbing bug jsigone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    one for everything
    Posts
    7,107
    Mentioned
    17 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    jsigone - the amtrak century route is probably our best bet out here for a long, flattish route. Palm springs was also flat (mostly) but oy, the wind!
    few yrs ago there was a large socal BF group that put on a ride for the Amtrack Century route, had our own SAG, lots of people showed up. Close to 50 or so mobbing down the coast in Decemeber. I remember that I had my Xmas party the nite before, got home @ 3am, woke up at 5am, and buddy drove my car to Irvine while I got an extra hr of sleep. Riding a century on 3hrs of sleep, hang over and powered by donuts lead to some hunger problems around mile 60 where I stopped for 2 carne asada burritos

    Yah and Palm springs....I couldn't go fast even if I wanted too...

  15. #15
    SuperGimp TrojanHorse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Whittier, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Roubaix
    Posts
    8,039
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    You can always ressurect the "I walked my first hill" thread..
    I always have driveway issues but no hill walking (yet). I need to go see if I can ride up turnbull canyon near me to see if I can handled it. Maybe today or tomorrow if I get lucky with time management.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    Yah and Palm springs....I couldn't go fast even if I wanted too...
    If I recall correctly, the last we saw of you was your jersey flapping in the wind as you pulled away on your 2-speed bike.

    There's an OC ride coming up ... 9/21 I think 70 miles and maybe 4k of hills, so not bad. it's buried in the thread on the so-cal forum about best rides in OC.

  16. #16
    Senior Member mprelaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Cape Cod, Massachusetts
    Posts
    1,920
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well, if you can average 21.1, pick a route with fewer stoplights next time.

  17. #17
    Senior Member smahler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Maryland
    My Bikes
    Specialized Allez & Sirrus
    Posts
    65
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    I was at Myrtle Beach S.C. last week and took a bike because I can't play that much golf or sit on the beach forever.
    Having been there before but not with a bike I found that I never realized that the place was so flat. Terrain consisted of an overpass and three bridges - one of them being over the Intercoastal Waterway and one over some river by a paper mill that was... wait for it, an entire .4 miles at an avg grade of 4%. Woo Hoo! Bridge repeats that I saw some folks 'cross training' on.

    Took the bike out on the first day I got there and decided to ride past where I had taken a couple of Gators in previous years. Heck it's only 40 miles or so down the road, why not right?. Ended up doing a "top of Z2 training zone" ride Century and had to stop at what seemed like every stoplight along the way. I also had to stop to refill the water bottles and grab some Cliff bars.

    Really? Only 778' of gain in 100 miles. That's just stupid flat.

    Found after that I was disinterested in ridding a bike down there. Never could live someplace that was that boring to ride. Give me 50'/mil gain and I'm much happier.

    http://app.strava.com/activities/77288251

    Data form Garmin Connect

    Distance: 102.94 mi
    Time: 4:52:25
    Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
    Elevation Gain: 778 ft
    Avg Temperature: 79.8 F

    Elapsed Time: 5:15:23
    Avg Speed: 21.1 mph
    Max Speed: 34.9 mph

    Elevation
    Elevation Gain: 778 ft
    Elevation Loss: 768 ft
    Min Elevation: -26 ft
    Max Elevation: 64 ft

    Heart Rate
    Avg HR: 140 bpm
    Max HR: 155 bpm

    Power
    Avg Power: 197 W
    Max Power: 746 W
    Max Avg Power (20 min): 224 W
    Normalized Power (NP): 206 W
    Intensity Factor (IF): 0.791
    Training Stress Score (TSS): 303.6
    Work: 3,440 kJ

    Cadence
    Avg Bike Cadence: 89 rpm
    Max Bike Cadence: 125 rpm

    While I have done 50 miles at 20 mph avg - http://app.strava.com/activities/73457624 - which had 44'/mi that was a tempo ride. Would have been nice to try a low tempo century. Maybe next year I can do a 4:30 moving time deal.

    So in summary, if you are looking to do a sub 5 hr moving time century, I suggest someplace that is flat as the beach. It's *stupid* easy then.

    In all about 300 miles of the most boring bike ridding I have ever done for a week. Came home Saturday and did the CITI century in PA yesterday which had 6,300' of gain. Much better! Glad to be back home.
    You better not move to Maryland's Eastern Shore - about that flat here. We're the runoff from the Appalachian Mountains (or so I've been told). Funny how one little state can be so different.
    LET'S GO FLYERS! And O's! And Ravens!

  18. #18
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by smahler View Post
    You better not move to Maryland's Eastern Shore - about that flat here. We're the runoff from the Appalachian Mountains (or so I've been told). Funny how one little state can be so different.
    Yeah, that bit is flat as well. I hunt Sika over that way. (Blackwater)

  19. #19
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    I always have driveway issues but no hill walking (yet). I need to go see if I can ride up turnbull canyon near me to see if I can handled it. Maybe today or tomorrow if I get lucky with time management.
    CAT3 repeats. Woo Hoo!

  20. #20
    Senior Member mkadam68's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    30 minutes North-West of Los Angeles.
    My Bikes
    2012 MotorHouse road bike. No. You can't get one.
    Posts
    3,605
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Couple years back, I made a special trip to Tennessee and did this one. 100 miles in 4:05 (with a group and following SAG wagon). Intersections were controlled so we never had to stop. Did come across a train crossing once, though, and had to stop for 3-5 mins while it crossed. I'd like to do it again. Nothing like riding with Kent Bostick and 50 of your closest hi-speed friends trying to break 4 hours

    Visit The C-Blog : the blog about cycling.

  21. #21
    got the climbing bug jsigone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    San Diego
    My Bikes
    one for everything
    Posts
    7,107
    Mentioned
    17 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ^^^ that sounds like my ideal way to ride!! I think I can hang no problem as long as I didn't have to go to the front too often. But then again it depends on the group and # of peps not willing to work.

  22. #22
    Senior Member adrien's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Alexandria, VA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Rockhopper comp, Kona Kapu, Ira Ryan custom road bike, Ira Ryan custom fixed gear
    Posts
    1,041
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by IBOHUNT View Post
    Yeah, that bit is flat as well. I hunt Sika over that way. (Blackwater)
    Visiting this weekend. There's a long ride I like out there that totals almost 80. Thinking of trying it on the fixed gear this year...
    "how do you know you can't swim until you have drowned?"

  23. #23
    Endangered Serotta Rider Lacumo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Upstate NY
    My Bikes
    2005 Serotta
    Posts
    3,011
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Admirable and truy enviable performance stats; probably pretty far from typical for the Clyde/Athena community.

  24. #24
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by adrien View Post
    Visiting this weekend. There's a long ride I like out there that totals almost 80. Thinking of trying it on the fixed gear this year...
    That would be the way to do any flat rides. Kowing what I do now I could have just taken a 52x19 setup and rode.

  25. #25
    Senior Member IBOHUNT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Western Maryland - Appalachian Mountains
    My Bikes
    Motobecane Fantom Cross; Cannondale Supersix replaced the Giant TCR which came to an untimely death by truck
    Posts
    2,367
    Mentioned
    24 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Lacumo View Post
    Admirable and truy enviable performance stats; probably pretty far from typical for the Clyde/Athena community.
    Thanks however there are folks that visit here that I know are capable of doing the same. Some have even posted that they want to do a sub 5 moving time century, hoping that the numbers; especially the power numbers show what it would take. They are not in any way, imho, strong numbers.

    As a guy once ask me when I started in archery... How bad do you want it?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •