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    Schwalbe Durano Plus - expected life?

    Back in April I took off my trusty 700x32 Marathon Plus tyres and replaced with with 700x25 Durano Plus. I'd been really impressed with the M+ but they were heavy and I was looking for ways to get some extra speed out of the Tricross.

    The Duranos feel like they roll much faster than the Marathons, I've gone around 1800-2000 miles on them without punctures, so on those metrics they tick all the boxes. The trouble is on the back wheel I'm seeing a few small patches of blue through the rubber, which suggests I'm very close to wearing the tyre out completely.

    Is barely 2000 miles to be expected for a Durano Plus? When I took the Marathon Plus off it had about 5000 miles on it and looked like it would be good for 5000 more. It's a bit disappointing to find I've worn this thing out in barely five months.

    ETA: Not sure if it makes much difference, but if it does my weight has been pretty steady around 240lb for the time I've had these tyres.
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    Nobody? Am I the only fattie who uses Duranos?
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    I use m+ and used to ride at 80 pounds heavier (or more).

    I always maintained a mindset that, because of my weight, I needed to be at the top end of tire pressure. Often I would run over pressure by about 8-10 percent. So like 108 psi instead of the sidewall stated 100 psi max inflate. Never had any problems from it, and at 330 pound rider weight plus gear/vehicle weight I felt that a necessary practice.


    I commute now, at 240 pound rider weight and when I put my m+ tires on I was running max inflate or just one or two pumps beyond. I noticed my rear was wearing way faster than my front. That is to be expected though, but it seemed unnaturally quick to wear over the course of 1000 miles.

    Thinking about it, I decided to run at lower pressures, and now my rear seems to be wearing more slowly. I was running ~87 psi and now run ~73 psi. On 700x35 m+.



    Maybe you are over inflating your tires causing them to wear more quickly?

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    The Marathon has a very thick tread on it as compared to most 700c tires, and while I'm not privvy to the chemical content of the rubber, I'm sure that it's probably made to wear longer as well. While I am not familiar with Duranos, it's not surprising that the treadlife is less with a lighter, easier rolling tire. Those are the tradeoffs that you make. If you want a long lasting 700Cx25 tire, try the Gatorskin.

    If you think 2000 miles is bad, try something like the Grand Bois Cypress. It's a very light, thin 32mm tire. I barely even get 1000 miles out of the rear tire.

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    I've put some miles on a pair of 28mm Duranos, but I couldn't tell you exactly how many. FWIW, I run mine at ~70/80 (front/rear), and I weigh 195-198. The Duranos are performance tires, so you won't get the same mileage as from Marathons. With tires, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contango View Post
    Back in April I took off my trusty 700x32 Marathon Plus tyres and replaced with with 700x25 Durano Plus. I'd been really impressed with the M+ but they were heavy and I was looking for ways to get some extra speed out of the Tricross.

    The Duranos feel like they roll much faster than the Marathons, I've gone around 1800-2000 miles on them without punctures, so on those metrics they tick all the boxes. The trouble is on the back wheel I'm seeing a few small patches of blue through the rubber, which suggests I'm very close to wearing the tyre out completely.

    Is barely 2000 miles to be expected for a Durano Plus? When I took the Marathon Plus off it had about 5000 miles on it and looked like it would be good for 5000 more. It's a bit disappointing to find I've worn this thing out in barely five months.

    ETA: Not sure if it makes much difference, but if it does my weight has been pretty steady around 240lb for the time I've had these tyres.
    2000 miles might be the limit for a good performance tire in that size.

    I'm using the Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech in the 700x28 size. So far, it's more durable than Gatorskins with a better ride. Both the Gatorskin and the Rubino Pro Tech should be good for about 2500 to 3000 when mounted on the back wheel, based on my 215 lbs.
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    You are comparing different sorts of tyres. One is treaded, quite a thick one, and is designed for durability. The other is more a performance tyres that is designed to roll fast, with no tread.

    I use both. I have Marathons on my touring bike at present. I've had them for a while, and they are heavy, as suggested by another poster. The Duranos we have on the tandem, and which we toured with around the world last year are much lighter and do roll better.

    I like both for the jobs they are designed to do, and that is the key.

    So far, the Duranos on the tandem were replaced after about 3,000km of road and some gravel riding, but I take a very conservative approach to this because it is the tandem; they had enough wear in the rear one for me to put them on my old Fuji Touring for pottering about.

    The ones on our touring bikes have done over 3,200km (2000 miles), but have been swapped out recently for the Marathons because of the unsealed rail-trail rides we have been doing lately. There is still plenty of wear -- at least 500km -- left in the Duranos.

    Lighter weight tyres aren't going to last as long as heavyweights. I think 2000 miles may be ballpark for the Duranos.
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    I realise the two are very different tyres, it was just a surprise to go from M+ tyres that had 5000 miles on them and looked like they were good for at least another 5000, to D+ tyres that are showing blue protective strip after less than 2000. I guess I've got maybe 17-1800 miles on them. If I got 10000 miles out of M+ and 5000 out of D+ I wouldn't be surprised, it's just the scale of the difference that surprised me, if M+ tyres literally last 5 times as long (if not longer) than D+.
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    I put maybe 2500 miles on a set of 25's before removing them. They were showing no appreciable wear. I moved from the suburbs to the beach and the road quality took a nosedive. I couldn't take the punishing ride and switched them for the venerable GP4000s. I've got something like 4500 miles on those and the rear tire is getting close to wearing out.

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