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Old 09-17-13, 07:27 AM   #1
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Morning ride LOL

Had a close encounter of the cager kind this morning. I was riding along a moderately traveled road with a 30 mph limit. Blinky lights, bright jersey, uber-clyder rider - not easy to miss. Pretty wide lanes. Most passing cars are sliding over and giving me space.

Along comes a sphincter in an SUV. Passes about a foot from me, maybe less. In a school zone, lots of kids around, so I tempered my response to "Hey! Three feet, jerk!". And from behind me I hear "whoop whoop". About 30 seconds later a city motor officer flies by on his motorcycle, lights flashing. He pulls the driver over about 100 or so yards ahead of me, dismounts, and gives me a thumbs up as I pass.

LOL. Hope the AH enjoys his ticket.....
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Had a close encounter of the cager kind this morning. I was riding along a moderately traveled road with a 30 mph limit. Blinky lights, bright jersey, uber-clyder rider - not easy to miss. Pretty wide lanes. Most passing cars are sliding over and giving me space.

Along comes a sphincter in an SUV. Passes about a foot from me, maybe less. In a school zone, lots of kids around, so I tempered my response to "Hey! Three feet, jerk!". And from behind me I hear "whoop whoop". About 30 seconds later a city motor officer flies by on his motorcycle, lights flashing. He pulls the driver over about 100 or so yards ahead of me, dismounts, and gives me a thumbs up as I pass.

LOL. Hope the AH enjoys his ticket.....
Awesome! Wish there was a cop the other day with the butt nugget that almost hit me.
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Had a close encounter of the cager kind this morning. I was riding along a moderately traveled road with a 30 mph limit. Blinky lights, bright jersey, uber-clyder rider - not easy to miss. Pretty wide lanes. Most passing cars are sliding over and giving me space.

Along comes a sphincter in an SUV. Passes about a foot from me, maybe less. In a school zone, lots of kids around, so I tempered my response to "Hey! Three feet, jerk!". And from behind me I hear "whoop whoop". About 30 seconds later a city motor officer flies by on his motorcycle, lights flashing. He pulls the driver over about 100 or so yards ahead of me, dismounts, and gives me a thumbs up as I pass.

LOL. Hope the AH enjoys his ticket.....
Good story (and glad this idiot didn't clip you - I've had that before), but just to say, as a regular 'cager', 'biker', 'cyclist' and 'pedestrian', the term 'cager' should not be used to describe a 'moron driver' (which is what you described).

I actually think it should be mandatory that all drivers are forced to ride a bicycle in traffic to see what it is like. In fact all types of road user should experience first hand what the other road users experience.

Glad the LEO felt his collar ;-)
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Had a close encounter of the cager kind this morning. I was riding along a moderately traveled road with a 30 mph limit. Blinky lights, bright jersey, uber-clyder rider - not easy to miss. Pretty wide lanes. Most passing cars are sliding over and giving me space.

Along comes a sphincter in an SUV. Passes about a foot from me, maybe less. In a school zone, lots of kids around, so I tempered my response to "Hey! Three feet, jerk!". And from behind me I hear "whoop whoop". About 30 seconds later a city motor officer flies by on his motorcycle, lights flashing. He pulls the driver over about 100 or so yards ahead of me, dismounts, and gives me a thumbs up as I pass.

LOL. Hope the AH enjoys his ticket.....
I just love a story with a happy ending. Glad to see the driver got what he deserved.

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I actually think it should be mandatory that all drivers are forced to ride a bicycle in traffic to see what it is like. In fact all types of road user should experience first hand what the other road users experience.
+1.

I never really understood the cyclists' points of view in terms of sharing the road until I started riding a bike myself. Then I started to see how things cyclists do in the streets make sense. I may have been a jackass driver before. I try not to be these days...
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+1.

I never really understood the cyclists' points of view in terms of sharing the road until I started riding a bike myself. Then I started to see how things cyclists do in the streets make sense. I may have been a jackass driver before. I try not to be these days...
Then it should also be mandatory for a biker to drive a car while experiencing an inconsiderate biker so they can see that point of view as well. Plenty of them around.
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Then it should also be mandatory for a biker to drive a car while experiencing an inconsiderate biker so they can see that point of view as well. Plenty of them around.
Because they're practically the same thing
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Then it should also be mandatory for a biker to drive a car while experiencing an inconsiderate biker so they can see that point of view as well. Plenty of them around.
True, though I'd venture to guess that 95 percent of the cyclists also drive, at least in the U.S...
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Then it should also be mandatory for a biker to drive a car while experiencing an inconsiderate biker so they can see that point of view as well. Plenty of them around.
Really, WM? An argument for argument's sake?? Hitting a cyclist through careless driving can kill him. By the very nature of the vehicle involved, a cyclist will generally be far more vulnerable... And hence careful. Not all of them, to be sure, but most as those that arent don't generally last very long. But a careless/distracted cyclist is more dangerous to himself than the car he might "brush." There are a*sholes everywhere, but anyone being careless with another's life needs to be told that its not ok. If the cyclist had carelessly/wantonly brushed a baby stroller, I think we'd be hearing the same thing...
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I actually think it should be mandatory that all drivers are forced to ride a bicycle in traffic to see what it is like. In fact all types of road user should experience first hand what the other road users experience.
the driver training in this country sucks...
I still think that our roads would be far safer if learners for a year or two could only ride on a small moped/scooter... I imagine that we would have far safer drivers after a while... but we know that's not going to happen... we're well on our fast food society to having cars that will drive for us :0
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Wow.......miracle!! *starts slow clap* I wonder if that has ever happened in CA?
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It's a great feeling, isn't it? I was riding in Atlantic City, NJ with the GF last month. Some d-bag in a pickup truck buzzed us. We caught him at the light and got ahead of him when the light turned green. He did it again, only this time he did it right in front of the police station. He forced me over so far that I almost hit a cop who stepped off the sidewalk to get into his patrol car. I told the cop it was the second time he had done that. A few seconds later I here sirens from behind. Two cops pulled the guy over.

Erwin: Motorists can get into injury causing accidents trying to avoid bad cyclists. And if you think there is not a lot of bad cycling out there you need to come to Philly and let me show you around. I ride a lot in the city for transportation. I see a lot of bad cycling every day. There is more than enough bad behavior among cyclists, motorists and pedestrians to go around. Many people on club rides aren't much better. They often hog the road and don't seem the understand what "Car back" means even after you have explained it to them at the start of the ride.
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Yesterday seems like the day for buzzing. I had a guy buzz me about 100 feet from the stop sign. The kid didn't completely stop at the sign so I couldn't catch him and give him a piece of my mind.

When I am out on my motorcycle (and car too) I tend to give everyone a wide birth because you never know what stupid **** they will do.
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Erwin: Motorists can get into injury causing accidents trying to avoid bad cyclists. And if you think there is not a lot of bad cycling out there you need to come to Philly and let me show you around. I ride a lot in the city for transportation. I see a lot of bad cycling every day. There is more than enough bad behavior among cyclists, motorists and pedestrians to go around. Many people on club rides aren't much better. They often hog the road and don't seem the understand what "Car back" means even after you have explained it to them at the start of the ride.
And they can get into accidents avoiding pedestrians, or kids chasing soccer balls into the street, or deer, or whatever...I'm sorry, but collisions resulting in injuries, where the cyclist is at fault, are EXTREMELY rare and the injuries tend to be minor. Injuries and deaths in collisions with 4000 pound vehicles, where the driver is at fault, happen dozens of times a day. And how many times do you hear of bikes losing control and ramming through storefronts or a house? Oh yeah, never...but a driver does it just about every day in the U.S.

My point is to that caveating every "bad driver" conversation with the phrase "...but bad cyclists also..." creates an equivalence that only serves to justify drivers' dangerous behavior when it comes to cyclists and pedestrians. The consequences of bad driving so far outweigh those of bad cycling that, if we really took the issue seriously, we wouldn't even discuss bad cycling as a thing. But god forbid we try and have a realistic conversation about consquences, because then we might have to face the fact that cars are incredibly dangerous and our reliance on them is killing people by the thousands every year.

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Lets just keep the A&S rants and belittling tones to posts in A&S please? I like this area because we all agree that being large has its difficulties as well as good things.

To the OP, glad nothing happened but more so that the driver learns what's up. Cops in Chicago seem to only go after bad drivers around cyclists when someone is hurt, otherwise they have been (supposedly) cracking down on bad cyclists. Which the city has plenty of and who cause plenty of damage to each other and vehicles ( again the "death ratio" will never be that of a car in an accident, no one argues that). Just glad your LEO saw the dangerous behavior and did something about it.
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Really, WM? An argument for argument's sake?? Hitting a cyclist through careless driving can kill him. By the very nature of the vehicle involved, a cyclist will generally be far more vulnerable... And hence careful. Not all of them, to be sure, but most as those that arent don't generally last very long. But a careless/distracted cyclist is more dangerous to himself than the car he might "brush." There are a*sholes everywhere, but anyone being careless with another's life needs to be told that its not ok. If the cyclist had carelessly/wantonly brushed a baby stroller, I think we'd be hearing the same thing...
Sure, no issue with most of that. However have you ever wondered why people in vehicles have attitudes towards cyclists and therefore do many "screw you" moves like not give space or cut off on corners? Some if it just plain bad driving and other is because of how cyclists (some) behave on the roads. Blowing through stop signs, lights, etc. On the group rides around here I have personally seen one biker go into the intersection and stop traffic so the group can blow on through. What do you think that does to the attitudes of the car drivers involved? It has an impact on safety. How many reading this have blown through stops? How would you feel if a car did it?

So.... it's the same for all parties. Bad car drivers, bad cyclists, etc. and everybody points fingers at the other side. Each needs to take responsibility.
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If you ever want to learn just how bad drivers out there are, drive an emergency vehicle lights and sirens in traffic.....
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Great story, OP. I've been fortunate so far. Not looking forward to a close encounter like that.
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If you ever want to learn just how bad drivers out there are, drive an emergency vehicle lights and sirens in traffic.....
I can believe it... a few moths back I got caught on a one way road just around the corner from a fire, everyone pulled over to the right except one lady in a HUGE suv who pulled to the right... she sat there with the fire trunk laying on the horn trying to get her to move... she just sat... and sat... and sat completely blocking off the EMS vehicles
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He seems to have misunderstood something. I was referring to vehicle-vehicle collisions caused by a vehicle trying to avoid a cyclist who is riding poorly. I have seen it happen more than once. I am also aware of cases of cyclists hitting pedestrians due to poor riding. One such instance here in Philly resulted in a fatality. Yes. A fatality. And it was not an elderly person. It was healthy, middle-aged professional man who was knocked down by a cyclist as he was heading home from work. He fell, hit his head, fell into a coma and later died. The cyclist got up, straightened his handlebars and took off. He has was never caught despite the large reward offered. Then there is the case of Chris Bucchere. Not familiar with it? Look it up.

And I guess it's true what they say: 87% of statistics are made up.
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I actually think it should be mandatory that all drivers are forced to ride a bicycle in traffic to see what it is like. In fact all types of road user should experience first hand what the other road users experience.
I hear the same thing from truck drivers. People in general need to take more care and consider what effect their actions have on those around them. I've witnessed as many cars with bike racks endangering the lives of other motorists when operating around trucks as cars without. I think in general folks just need to be more considerate of others and stop being in such a hurry.
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I hear the same thing from truck drivers. People in general need to take more care and consider what effect their actions have on those around them. I've witnessed as many cars with bike racks endangering the lives of other motorists when operating around trucks as cars without. I think in general folks just need to be more considerate of others and stop being in such a hurry.
Agreed. My comments way up there were no meant to be inflammatory, just that everybody shares the responsibility and all parties need to consider the point of view of others. Some people have the opinion that truckers are jerks.... and some are! The ones that are noticed are the ones that are not being nice. That's the same with cars, bikes, trucks, etc. Whatever. Everybody needs to know, or try to consider at least, the point of view of others and don't let the minority of actions affect your majority of opinions.

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He seems to have misunderstood something. I was referring to vehicle-vehicle collisions caused by a vehicle trying to avoid a cyclist who is riding poorly. I have seen it happen more than once. I am also aware of cases of cyclists hitting pedestrians due to poor riding. One such instance here in Philly resulted in a fatality. Yes. A fatality. And it was not an elderly person. It was healthy, middle-aged professional man who was knocked down by a cyclist as he was heading home from work. He fell, hit his head, fell into a coma and later died. The cyclist got up, straightened his handlebars and took off. He has was never caught despite the large reward offered. Then there is the case of Chris Bucchere. Not familiar with it? Look it up.

And I guess it's true what they say: 87% of statistics are made up.
50% of the time, at least.

It sucks when accidents happen and someone doesn't own up to it and take responsibility, regardless of fault.

I was coming through an intersection and a car coming to the intersection on the right stopped, then pulled out to take a right hand turn. Nothing wrong with on the surface because no cars were coming. In reality *I* was coming and the guy didn't see me. He wasn't on his cell phone, he wasn't this or that, he just missed me. All 6' 2" on a hybrid with a light, etc. I went into his front fender and up and over the hood. He could have easily took off but he didn't. I was ok but my bike had a bent front rim and no other apparent damage. The guy was so shaken that he could have hurt me that he was almost in tears. He apologized about 1000 times and couldn't come up with how he missed me. I stopped him from calling it in and said that if he took care of the damage we would call it even. A call to the wife to come get me, damage fixed, bill sent and he paid. We still stay in touch here and there. I honestly feel it was a mistake on his part and not intentional. It could have ended poorly but it didn't. We took care of it as humans should and went on.
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