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    Ouch!

    Just got on the scale and I am up to 350lbs.....YIKES!!! I have been riding but unfortunately the amount of calories going in are more than the calories going out.....too many calories in the adult beverages.

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    How often do you check your weight? Maybe checking more often would help you to avoid surprises like this.

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    I also have a fondness for the adult beverage. I switched to the low cal beers Miller 64 and Bud 55 while they don't impress at first, when you get used to them they at least allow you an option. Aside from riding, the biggest help for me was a calorie tracking app for my phone, I use "MyNetDiary". Tracking every calorie that goes in really helps train your mind. You can do this!!

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    At the risk of lecturing, it takes a lot, I mean a lot of beers to add up to 350 lb. Many thousands of them. Look elsewhere in your diet for bigger culprits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefTJS View Post
    I also have a fondness for the adult beverage. I switched to the low cal beers Miller 64 and Bud 55 while they don't impress at first, when you get used to them they at least allow you an option. Aside from riding, the biggest help for me was a calorie tracking app for my phone, I use "MyNetDiary". Tracking every calorie that goes in really helps train your mind. You can do this!!
    I have to say, if I switched to those I'd be set. I'd never drink them!

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    When I got to 352 I as drinking 10 beers a day. Bud light which I loved because it had no taste lol. Anyway I checked my blood sugar
    and found I was steady in the diabetic range 160+ for 3 days running. That scared me and I quit drinking went on low carb diet and started exercising. Now at 225 and biking 150+ miles a week. That said I read somewhere that almost all diets work if you stay on them

    good luck to you (and me!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
    At the risk of lecturing, it takes a lot, I mean a lot of beers to add up to 350 lb. Many thousands of them. Look elsewhere in your diet for bigger culprits.
    Agree! My drink of choice is orange vodka with lemonade and unfortunately there is way too much sugar in those drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurch0038 View Post
    too many calories in the adult beverages.
    I'll drink to that. If I stopped drinking during the week I would lose at least 10 lbs. in the blink of an eye. Going to experiment with that one of these months. No more happy hour with the boys. No more wine with dinner during the week.
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    "You can't outride a bad diet." originally said by someone and often repeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lurch0038 View Post
    Just got on the scale and I am up to 350lbs.....YIKES!!! I have been riding but unfortunately the amount of calories going in are more than the calories going out.....too many calories in the adult beverages.
    Quote Originally Posted by lurch0038 View Post
    Agree! My drink of choice is orange vodka with lemonade and unfortunately there is way too much sugar in those drinks.
    So what are you going to do about it?

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    I am always amused by people who post that they are trying to lose weight, ride and exercise a lot, have their eating under control. But when they are asked about their alcohol intake, they shy away from it being the cause. Or think that it just doesn't matter.

    Well, there is more to it, apparently, than just the calories or "sugars" you take in when having a drink of the "adult beverages" (nice avoidance language, by the way).

    I extracted this from a recent article I came across (it is intended to educate parents on the effects of alcohol so they are armed with some information to discourage their kids from abusing alcohol):

    A 1993 Swiss study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition found that alcohol has an effect on the amount of fat that the body can use for energy production. It determined that by consuming just 24 grams of alcohol can reduce the body’s ability to burn fat by a staggering 74 percent. Acetic acid is considered the culprit; this is an acid that forms in the liver when alcohol passes through. This reduces fat metabolism because the body starts using this as a fuel for functions instead of fat.

    I think the message is pretty clear -- drink alcohol and sabotage your attempts to lose weight. In fact, alcohol should be the number one item on the no-go list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longbeachgary View Post
    So what are you going to do about it?
    I love the low carb lifestyle....my body feels so much better when eliminating or dramatically reducing the carbs/sugar. Now that turkey day is over I need to focus on reducing my weight and getting back to my active lifestyle.

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    I've had like one beer in the last two months for this very reason. Not only does good beer (note I said good beer) have a couple hundred calories each, but I'd read about alcohol being burnt by the body easier than fat, so when you drink the body essentially stops burning fat for a while. I can't afford that, I'm trying to slim down more, and even without drinking anything I'm having to really work hard for every lost ounce.

    To the OP, I'd have to ask, what do you value more, getting thin in the medium to long term, or having a beer in the short term? Because you probably can't have both.

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    I try to keep it to just 2 or 3 beers............and it's been pretty tough for me TC.

    ^^^ Yep I saw a few videos about fitness where they say alcohol has a compounding effect on your performance, it's not just the calories you take in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SethAZ View Post
    I've had like one beer in the last two months for this very reason. Not only does good beer (note I said good beer) have a couple hundred calories each, but I'd read about alcohol being burnt by the body easier than fat, so when you drink the body essentially stops burning fat for a while. I can't afford that, I'm trying to slim down more, and even without drinking anything I'm having to really work hard for every lost ounce.

    To the OP, I'd have to ask, what do you value more, getting thin in the medium to long term, or having a beer in the short term? Because you probably can't have both.
    Agree cannot have both and because I am not a big drinker and enjoy riding more than the adult beverage it will be easier to pass on the booze....I just wish it was the warmer months with longer daylight so I could ride more.

    I like the quote and will use it "you cannot outride a bad diet"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SethAZ View Post
    Not only does good beer (note I said good beer) have a couple hundred calories each, but I'd read about alcohol being burnt by the body easier than fat, so when you drink the body essentially stops burning fat for a while.
    This and what Rowan posted about burning acetic acid is very interesting.

    And you are right about "good beer." Years ago, when I was taking a few years off from the working world, I hung out with old friends from my 'hood. At some point during the winter I started drinking Yard's (a local Philly brewery) Brawler. Even though I was riding daily for transportation and hitting the gym nearly every day for 1 hr.+ sessions on the stationary bike, I put on over 5 lbs. in a short time. Then someone told me it had a lot of calories. MyFitnessPal (didn't exist back then) says 145 for 12 oz. I was drinking it by the pint, so you are talking 181 calories each.
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    Like anything else, moderation is the key. There is nothing wrong with having a beer or a glass of wine once in a while, but limit yourself based on your goals. I suggest that you cut down on quantity rather than quality. I feel the same way about lite beer that I feel about "diet" processed foods. I'd rather have one good beer a week than a lousy lite beer several times a week. The only two lite beers I can say I enjoy are Corona and Coors. A small glass of red wine with your evening meal has actually been shown to have health benefits. Just remember to count the calories from your beverages into your nutrition plan.

    If you cannot give up having several drinks a day, you may have a problem and should seek help.
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    I can attest to not drinking will make you feel a lot better and will help you see the pounds drop off. Being in the Navy I have had my far share of drinking and long nights out but I was constantly putting on weight and after failing a Navy fitness test for body fat I have completely cut out alcohol and I am down just about 15 pounds and that has been only about a month and a half and I haven't been able to ride and work out as much as I wanted to due to moving to a new duty station but i am back on it now and hope the pounds will keep falling off.

    Also it wasn't easy to stop like that so fast but I have a great girl that is pushing me to keep off of it, so if you can get family to help out it makes it a lot easy to lay off and stop completely.

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    Stop for 2 months, if you have trouble stopping maybe it's time to quit? See how it goes for those 2 months, you'll figure it out.

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    Thanks for the advice! I am excited about burning the fat and getting back into riding shape as I truly enjoy the challenge of climbing hills and pushing my body to overcome those other riding challenges.

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    A year back or so, I was excercising a lot and eating pretty well, but drinking a lot. And surprise, I literally only lost like 1 pound in a month.

    2nd month: same excercise and diet, cut out alcohol 100% for 30 days, and dropped 13 pounds, go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myosmith View Post
    Like anything else, moderation is the key. There is nothing wrong with having a beer or a glass of wine once in a while, but limit yourself based on your goals. I suggest that you cut down on quantity rather than quality. I feel the same way about lite beer that I feel about "diet" processed foods. I'd rather have one good beer a week than a lousy lite beer several times a week. The only two lite beers I can say I enjoy are Corona and Coors. A small glass of red wine with your evening meal has actually been shown to have health benefits. Just remember to count the calories from your beverages into your nutrition plan.

    If you cannot give up having several drinks a day, you may have a problem and should seek help.
    This is exactly how it is for me (right down to the Coors and Corona...lol!). Seriously, the last sentence is probably the key one. But only you can decide this for yourself. Good luck!
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    I will add my two cents worth. I have struggled with my weight all of my life. Several times I have lost over a hundred pounds, only to have it back within a year or two. For me, I have discovered that the reality is, if you take in more calories than you burn, you are going to gain weight, and visa-versa. I have been on every diet ever invented in the last forty or fifty years. I lost weight on them, but it always came back. I have learned, at least for me, that I can't go on diets. I don't even use the word anymore. I had to develop an "eating plan" for life. In other words, I had to train myself to eat only healthy, nutritious, lower calorie foods and be happy with smaller amounts. I no longer eat meat. I have replaced it with beans and other legumes. My main diet is veggies, with a little yogurt daily to get enough protein. My diet would probably look bland and unexciting to most people, but I have been at it so long, it is what I like and crave. The thought of eating sugar almost nauseates me these days, and I used to be good for at least three pounds of M+M's at a sitting. I was powerless over chocolate. Today I couldn't eat it. When I finally made the decision that this is how I am going to approach my eating problem I weighed 365 lbs. Today I am 230 and still dropping. I eat all I want. You can eat broccoli until you pass out, and still lose weight. But when I switched my expectations around, I find that I literally crave broccoli these days when hungry. A "walk on the wild-side" for me these is a can of beets, which are higher calorie veggies, but we all need a "treat" once in a while. It is basically mind over matter. Most people look at a huge double fudge brownie and think that it looks good. I look at it, and it looks like an additional hour and a half of pushing myself hard on my bike just to get rid of it. I am not tempted at all, basically because sweets have not been a part of my diet for years. In respect to "adult beverages" - forget them. I don't drink any ever. Haven't for years. In my 365 lb (and climbing) days, I was good for a twelve pack three or four times a week. Now that I have added a twelve, or fifteen mile bike ride to my day, I actually have to force myself to eat more than I want, or I go into "starvation mode" and lose nothing. My approach is probably too radical for most folks, but it has served me well. I am sixty years old, with sixty-one coming up soon. I have my whole "system" gone through routinely, and my doctor tells me that I have the amount or arterial blockage that he would expect to find in today's "raised on McDonald's" twenty year old. My cholesterol level is always amazingly wonderful, according to him. I no longer take blood pressure meds. Don't need them. I do not write this to brag or gloat. I write it just to demonstrate that people are amazingly adaptive critters and quickly become accustomed to, and slaves, to routine and habit. You can make that work for you, instead of against you. If you hit yourself in the head with a hammer every day for long enough, the first time you would experience a crisis is the first day that you could not find your hammer. Yeah, like a healthy eating plan, it really sucks at first. But, after enough repetition for long enough, there comes a point when it becomes an integral part of your expectations and you just do it without even thinking about it. It becomes your expected routine, and what you need to feel that all is right in your little world. I have no "goal weight". I just eat what I want, of the right stuff, and ride almost every day. I enjoy both. They are part of my mindless routine, and what I need to do to feel happy and whole. There will come a point in my weight loss when I am going to have to add something else to stop it, but I will deal with that when I get there. And that will become part of my expectations in time. My recommendation for anyone wishing to lose weight, and more importantly keep it off, would be to design a healthy eating plan, stay with it until it literally is what you want and crave, and find an exercise that you brings you enjoyment so that you will actually look forward to doing it daily, in my case bike riding, and the weight problem will just go away on its own. It's all in your mind, and you can control your mind by conditioning it.

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