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Old 01-09-14, 04:07 PM   #1
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Strava Wahoo HR moniter and premium worth it for Clydes/Athenas?

Hi! I just started riding on a weekly basis again, and currently have a Cateye Double Wireless Computer on my bike. I also use Strava, since some of the local riders here recommended that. I was looking at upgrading to premium and then I noticed that Strava has a bundle with the Wahoo HR monitor and a year of premium for $98, or $30 off the normal prices.

Do any of the Clydes/Athenas here have experience with that? Is it that good of a deal? Is the strap even going to fit me? Any feedback from people who have used the HR monitor or considered it is appreciated. I like Strava because I can look at my progress on a specific stretch. I feel the HR Monitor will be good to help me get better without overdoing it (I have a tendency to push too much). I don't plan on getting rid of the Cateye, I just keep the iPhone in my bag and check it afterwards. Thank you .
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I run the Wahoo cadence monitor and HRM; overall I like it. I've found that I can run a more reasonable amount of energy and not hammer all the time when I'm playing HR zone games with myself (like you, I tend to the over-doing side of things). I'm not sure it'd be so useful /to me/ if I couldn't see my HR on the fly, which means either a RFLKT+ (which I was gifted with at Xmas) or a handlebar mount (which the GF uses).

I saw warnings about battery life, but I'm not doing more than 50 miles at a run, so it's fine for me so far.

As to the strap? It's a HRM strap. I'm an un-clydlely clyde and qualify on height these days, so I can't comment on the fit. I have a polar that pairs with a watch, and it seems to be similar?
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If you don't plan on training with the HR monitor, why buy it? (If your phone is in your bag, you aren't really training with it and it certainly won't prevent you from over or under doing it) If you don't train with at least HR or power, I'm not sure paying the premium for Strava is worth it either, because most of the bells and/or whistles seem to be related to the data associated with those two things (and you can sort by age, weight etc but I rarely do that anyway)

I agree that strava is great for monitoring your progress on individual segments, it was a huge motivational sea-change for me when I finally figured that out.
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If you don't train with at least HR or power, I'm not sure paying the premium for Strava is worth it either, because most of the bells and/or whistles seem to be related to the data associated with those two things (and you can sort by age, weight etc but I rarely do that anyway)
Agree: Strava Premium is only worthwhile if you're training with HR or power.
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I run the Wahoo cadence monitor and HRM; overall I like it. I've found that I can run a more reasonable amount of energy and not hammer all the time when I'm playing HR zone games with myself (like you, I tend to the over-doing side of things). I'm not sure it'd be so useful /to me/ if I couldn't see my HR on the fly, which means either a RFLKT+ (which I was gifted with at Xmas) or a handlebar mount (which the GF uses).

I saw warnings about battery life, but I'm not doing more than 50 miles at a run, so it's fine for me so far.

As to the strap? It's a HRM strap. I'm an un-clydlely clyde and qualify on height these days, so I can't comment on the fit. I have a polar that pairs with a watch, and it seems to be similar?
Hmmm, I haven't heard about the RFLKT+, so I will research it. I was told be several LBS guys not to use the iPhone as a computer, because it kills the batteries, and when you need your phone it won't work.

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[QUOTE=sstorkel;16397656]Agree: Strava Premium is only worthwhile if you're training with HR or power.[/QUOTE]

So, I am wondering if it is worth it to get a mount for my iPhone and use it for watching my HR? I would love to be able to afford the new Garmin with HR, but that isn't going to happen this year.
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Hmmm, I haven't heard about the RFLKT+, so I will research it. I was told be several LBS guys not to use the iPhone as a computer, because it kills the batteries, and when you need your phone it won't work.

So far, that hasn't been my experience. It'll run fine for 3+ hours with GPS and BT 4.0 connection to the HRM and speed/cadence sensor. It's a 5S, since I was in the upgrade path, but the thing that kills the battery for me has always been running the screen. (So if it's on the bars, that may be bad; I haven't tried that). As to the RFLKT -- by the time you get there, you're probably into low-end Garmin territory anyway. That might be a better route, or a dedicated computer that can upload to Strava and link to an (ANT+) HRM.

I'm with everyone else; if you're going to have an HRM, then be able to see the info. For me, the ability to compare segments on Strava premium is really nice, and probably the reason it's worth it. That and it's 2 cups of coffee a month, so I just cut those out. The HR data is a nice add-on, but I'm not convinced in their zones, suffer score, and so on. It has been a useful tool for me in training, though I don't think it's near as good as power. OTOH, I'm just trying to get in shape to ride a motorbike anyway.
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So, I am wondering if it is worth it to get a mount for my iPhone and use it for watching my HR? I would love to be able to afford the new Garmin with HR, but that isn't going to happen this year.
Keep your eyes peeled for a used garmin 500, they're not in such high demand since the 510 came out so you never know. Then your phone can stay idle in case you need it.
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So, I am wondering if it is worth it to get a mount for my iPhone and use it for watching my HR? I would love to be able to afford the new Garmin with HR, but that isn't going to happen this year.
Honestly? I wouldn't bother. Keeping logs of HR data just doesn't seem that useful to me. It is useful to know your current heart rate, but I wouldn't bother trying to record it, plot it over time, or anything fancy like that. I've got 4 years worth of Garmin-collected HR data and I never look at it. Before I bought the Garmin and power meter, I used a simple Polar heart rate monitor. That's about all of the HR info you need as far as I'm concerned...
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Honestly? I wouldn't bother. Keeping logs of HR data just doesn't seem that useful to me. It is useful to know your current heart rate, but I wouldn't bother trying to record it, plot it over time, or anything fancy like that. I've got 4 years worth of Garmin-collected HR data and I never look at it. Before I bought the Garmin and power meter, I used a simple Polar heart rate monitor. That's about all of the HR info you need as far as I'm concerned...
So, what is the best way of training while watching your heart rate, that is also cost effective? I am actually trying to get pregnant, so I don't want to overdo it right now, also, I am spending the day recovering from last week's strenuous workouts. I want to get in shape, but I can't afford to be so sore I can't move very well. I was looking at the polar heart rate monitors, but those are around $70. Also, is it easy to see while you riding?

By the way, thank you, posters for all your insight!
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I don't think riding a bike is going to get you pregnant, but it's been a while for me.

I think it's generally pretty easy to tell if you're OVER doing it because you're huffing and puffing and maybe the edges of your vision start to get a little darker... HR monitors are great to prevent you from UNDER doing it, although they certainly work both ways.

Generally, you wear the strap and put a watch on or have a garmin or other bike computer that shows your HR. They're not hard to see or use, for the most part.

Also, muscle soreness has very little to do with your HR and is generally a sign that you're using muscles you haven't used in a while, or using them harder than you're used to. If you ride pretty consistently that will go away pretty quickly, so I wouldn't let that stop you at all.

This article might help you approximate the benefits of an HR monitor without spending any money.
http://blog.eliteclubs.com/tag/exerc....BVlVQQWH.dpbs
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I use a polar hrm ft7 I think, and live it. It has a watch which I can stick on my handle bar for instant viewing.
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Lots of companies make HR monitors; Polar is only one option, though certainly the most well-known. You could also look at Sigma, Nike, Omron, etc. I would expect that basic models should cost $40-60. Most basic monitors display your HR on a digital "watch". If you're not comfortable taking your hands off the handlebars to look at the watch, you can always wrap the watch around the handlebars so it's easier to read. In terms of functionality, I never really used anything other than current heart rate. If you plan to train seriously with a HRM, it might be useful to be able to set your min and max HR and have the watch beep if your HR goes above or below those values. If you plan to use your HR monitor at a gym, or around others who own HR monitors, a model with a "coded" strap is nice: that should prevent someone nearby from seeing your HR and vice versa.

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Owning a HR monitor is no guarantee that you won't experience muscle soreness. It's entirely possible to have good cardiovascular fitness and poor leg strength. In that case, your HRM will happily let you ride to the point where you won't be able to walk the next day.
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