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Old 01-31-14, 11:59 AM   #1
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Anyone using Enve 3.4 Wheels?

Just curious if anyone here is using The Enve 3.4 carbon clinchers? I am at 195 and wondering about durability and the stability of these wheels for steeper/fast descents.

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Where's @vesteroid when you need him? I believe he has enve wheels and rides 'em in plenty hilly northern Nevada.

Enve and zipp are the only two brands I'd consider riding clinchers in hills on, that's for sure. And even then riding the brakes is not recommended.
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Where's @vesteroid when you need him? I believe he has enve wheels and rides 'em in plenty hilly northern Nevada.

Enve and zipp are the only two brands I'd consider riding clinchers in hills on, that's for sure. And even then riding the brakes is not recommended.
I ain't seen hide nor hair that boy in ages. Time to add him to a #MilkCarton again.
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I ain't seen hide nor hair that boy in ages. Time to add him to a #MilkCarton again.
No kidding. @vesteroid and @PhotoJoe oughta get together and not go for a ride together.
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i think that depends more on braking style.....if you're a white knuckle decender then you'll have probs even at 160lbs like one of the guys I know. My club is sponsored by Enve, we lots of them are running their stuff on road and mTB 29er. Never a complaint from them and we even have a 5kft hill in our backyard to play on.
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Yo Yo Yo TH and IBO. Sold the enve 45s and yes going with the 3.4s 80% but maybe the 303 or 404...small chance of those as my girl Jude at sugar wheel works hand builds the enves and I support people I like.

Took all my bike apart and kept the roubaix. Putting the red group on it and wussiying out putting the 11-32 cassette on until I can get back into climbing shape.

Of course the two warm weeks we had my bike is in the shop. They did not give me those ferrule things to terminate cables into the frame when they built it last year, only the grommets for the di2, so we had to order them.

selling off the ridley frame a few parts such as the bars and stem, and all the DI2 stuff.

Its ski season since it snowed and mrs vest has me remodeling the house....off to go paint lest I be beaten

Hope you boys are well.
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I can't find any weight restrictions on the 3.4's --- or most of the Enves -- but real world experience trumps marketing. On the other hand the folks at Enve seem to have the reputation of back up their product.

In general I am not a white knuckle descender, but stuff happens. One of the regular descents I make has two stop lights and at the right time of day and with no traffic I pedal all the way down the hill and regularly make 45-50 mph. But, if the light is red or there is a lot of traffic then I have to modulate the brakes to keep safe.

And then there is the Haleakala trip I have planned this year ...... just want to make sure a 3.4 wheelset would hold up.
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I'm 185... Bunch of shortish descents for me... But some at 18+%.. So I have to ride the brakes quite a bit to slow for an intersection. No sustained downhills yet(that need heavy braking).

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They did not give me those ferrule things to terminate cables into the frame when they built it last year, only the grommets for the di2, so we had to order them.
He lives! I thought the Di2 was better on long rides for you? What gives there? Sounds like a story brewing. Aside from a new cassette and chain, I haven't spent a dime on new bike stuff this year. Matter of fact, I told the missus yesterday that it was almost february and I wasn't jonesing for a new frame (first time in 4 years, LOL)

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And then there is the Haleakala trip I have planned this year ...... just want to make sure a 3.4 wheelset would hold up.
I would *NOT* (bold, emphasis, don't do it) ride carbon clinchers down Haleakala. Bad, bad, bad, bad idea. That's basically the worst case scenario for carbon clinchers right there. Get a set of really light AL wheels to ride up and down that thing. Going up you won't be going anywhere near fast enough to need big carbon wheels, and going down, you won't need any aero advantages either. I'm sure you'd hate to de-laminate a $2,000 set of wheels just because you can.

I'd also ride a triple up that thing. I'm a sissy that way though.
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Don't know about Enves (yet, I have a set of 6.7 clinchers on order right now), but I would personally not trust a carbon clincher on a descent like Haleakala. I would bring a good set of box rims, or if you're insistent on riding an aero rim, I would go with a carbon/alu wheel, the best of which right now is the Mavic 40c. I hate getting blown around by the wind too. I know the rhetoric is that the 3.4s and Zipp 303s have the same stability as a box rim in the wind, but that's not been my experience, at least with 303s, anyway. Also, if you're going to do this, I definitely wouldn't use latex tubes.
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The more I look at the options, the more the 3.4's or similar fade into the background, but not completely out of the picture. The current Shimano CL24, 35, 50 options look to be contenders based on reviews and the experience of some folks whose options I trust. But, the 3.4's are a very attractive wheelset.

About the Haleakala thing .... last March I made it to 8000 feet before wind, rain, and my knees resulted in an abandon on the climb. I have an idea of what is involved going up and down and this year for my 70th birthday, I plan to retry it. Take a look at this report from a Maui bike shop that tested the 3.4's on a Haleakala descent. The headline is:
Enve SES 3.4 Clincher tested & loved on Mt. Haleakala

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The more I look at the options, the more the 3.4's or similar fade into the background, but not completely out of the picture. The current Shimano CL24, 35, 50 options look to be contenders based on reviews and the experience of some folks whose options I trust. But, the 3.4's are a very attractive wheelset.

About the Haleakala thing .... last March I made it to 8000 feet before wind, rain, and my knees resulted in an abandon on the climb. I have an idea of what is involved going up and down and this year for my 70th birthday, I plan to retry it. Take a look at this report from a Maui bike shop that tested the 3.4's on a Haleakala descent. The headline is:
Enve SES 3.4 Clincher tested & loved on Mt. Haleakala
Haleakala is definitely on my bucket list... did you fly your own bike over or rent one? It seems like you can get some pretty decent rentals in Maui.

You should rent the wheels from that shop and use those to descend Haleakala. Seriously though, since you're posting in the clyde forum, I'm going to assume the guy testing those wheels is lighter than us.

Congrats on making it to 8k and good luck this year. Take pictures and report back, that is one heck of an accomplishment.
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Exactly. I think C50s would be a fine choice too, but are heavier, maybe more aero, and just as expensive as the Mavic 40Cs. The C50 is still in the carbon/alu hybrid class that I had mentioned earlier. In terms of beauty of the wheel, I personally definitely think the 40Cs are a prettier wheel. That's great that one guy from a bike shop on Maui had ridden them a bunch of times down Haleakala, but as others have mentioned, there are a lot of variables, like rider weight and riding style. How you use the brakes is important too. As far as I know, Mavic is the only brand of the "carbon clincher" style wheel (although I would still consider them a hybrid wheel) that has done testing down huge, long descents in Europe with heavy riders riding on the brakes down, and have not had a failure. That's the kind of thing I can have confidence in, rather than the article you posted, but even that is better than nothing. Even they personally know of someone who's had a rim failure, and that is kind of scary. It should not be that common and that close to home, in my opinion. Good luck!
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