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    Can't get it up?

    No, not that...
    Heart rate.

    Just got heart rate monitor a few rides ago.
    Trying to do intervals... I can follow the spirit of them, if not the letter.

    Seems I can I can push the intervals, but heart rate tops out at 149... Legs give out before my heart. They burn, I push I am breathing hard and sweating buckets.

    Here's my workout log:
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...00k-this-April

    I'm 48, male 6', (5' 11 1/2'' after dead or squat days) and 265.

    I lift fairly seriously and fairly heavy.
    I can do respectable miles, 30-70+ mile rides, but at a not quite respectable pace 10-12 average speeds. Only concerns are food, water, and seat time....

    I'm going to try my inhaler, but I don't think it is a breathing issue. I do breath hard, but not as bad as say as a nasty hill when I screw up my climbing strategy...


    So am I doing something wrong?
    Is something wrong?


    All ideas welcome.
    All advice, random comments, personal experience, from anyone willing to post
    I would love links to other peoples work out logs... I learn a lot from other peoples experiences..

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    Just out of curiousity, what kind of cadence do you maintain?

    I don't commonly get near my max HR unless I"m really, really getting after it and then as you noted, it's a balance between wearing out your legs and wearing out your cardio system.

    Also note that the "calculation" is just a gross approximation and is different for everybody. It's also different from sport to sport.

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    THX!

    Targeting:
    ~70 cadence for warm up and rest between intervals @ gear that puts me at a bout 11-12...
    ~90-95 during interval in gear that puts me about 17-20...

    oh and today I did 2 short 110-ish runs of like 2-3 minutes, boy legs (and form) degraded fast on those!

    Have trouble creeping up during rests, catch myself high 70's and late in workout low 80's...

    Today tried shorter interval and rests but higher target ~100-105.

    What's odd is that on the road I tend to beat heart/lungs into the ground when I blow a climb. Or say hauling stuff for yard work.

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    It's hard to max your HR out on flat ground. Find a long, good hill and attack it after a pretty good ride. You should be able to get your HR up

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    Your hitting near 90% hr??your pushing it to hard. Try a lower gear?q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    No, not that...
    Heart rate.

    Just got heart rate monitor a few rides ago.
    Trying to do intervals... I can follow the spirit of them, if not the letter.

    Seems I can I can push the intervals, but heart rate tops out at 149... Legs give out before my heart. They burn, I push I am breathing hard and sweating buckets.

    Here's my workout log:
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...00k-this-April

    I'm 48, male 6', (5' 11 1/2'' after dead or squat days) and 265.

    I lift fairly seriously and fairly heavy.
    I can do respectable miles, 30-70+ mile rides, but at a not quite respectable pace 10-12 average speeds. Only concerns are food, water, and seat time....

    I'm going to try my inhaler, but I don't think it is a breathing issue. I do breath hard, but not as bad as say as a nasty hill when I screw up my climbing strategy...


    So am I doing something wrong?
    Is something wrong?


    All ideas welcome.
    All advice, random comments, personal experience, from anyone willing to post
    I would love links to other peoples work out logs... I learn a lot from other peoples experiences..
    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    THX!

    Targeting:
    ~70 cadence for warm up and rest between intervals @ gear that puts me at a bout 11-12...
    ~90-95 during interval in gear that puts me about 17-20...

    oh and today I did 2 short 110-ish runs of like 2-3 minutes, boy legs (and form) degraded fast on those!

    Have trouble creeping up during rests, catch myself high 70's and late in workout low 80's...

    Today tried shorter interval and rests but higher target ~100-105.

    What's odd is that on the road I tend to beat heart/lungs into the ground when I blow a climb. Or say hauling stuff for yard work.
    Make sure you've clearly identified your goals with these intervals. You may be doing the wrong ones if your objectives are different. For example, based on what you said above, it appears your objective is simply to have a higher cadence for brief spurts.

    In any event here's some initial impressions...

    • Keep at it. Eventually your legs will get stronger and will respond as needed.
    • What gearing are you using? With 700c wheels, that's 17mph with a 39x16 gear at 90rpm's.
    • To improve your leg strength, try a bigger gear. Start in a bigger gear, definitely in your big chainring (in front). a 52x16 at 90rpm's jumps you up to 22mph.
    • Try intervals on hills with shallow grades, say 2%. To make this even harder, do it with a big gear.
    • Based on the numbers you listed above, I'm thinking that intervals are just not needed right now. Instead, just ride. Lots. Try riding with others that will push your limits.


    Keep on riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMAMRA View Post
    Your hitting near 90% hr??your pushing it to hard. Try a lower gear?q

    I can barely hit 150 (like one time 1 sample spike). Most times a local max is 142-4...


    But using the garmin site, I do occasionally touch 81% of max... Not much time over 75% at all. So maybe I've got something to build on... hold 90% max heart rate for short duration (minute or so) seems like a break point in fitness.




    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68 View Post
    Make sure you've clearly identified your goals with these intervals. You may be doing the wrong ones if your objectives are different. For example, based on what you said above, it appears your objective is simply to have a higher cadence for brief spurts.


    In any event here's some initial impressions...
    Keep at it. Eventually your legs will get stronger and will respond as needed.
    What gearing are you using? With 700c wheels, that's 17mph with a 39x16 gear at 90rpm's.
    To improve your leg strength, try a bigger gear. Start in a bigger gear, definitely in your big chainring (in front). a 52x16 at 90rpm's jumps you up to 22mph.
    Try intervals on hills with shallow grades, say 2%. To make this even harder, do it with a big gear.
    Based on the numbers you listed above, I'm thinking that intervals are just not needed right now. Instead, just ride. Lots. Try riding with others that will push your limits.


    Keep on riding!



    AH, you're right!
    Goals...
    all comes down to what am I trying to do.


    Objective goals
    1) finish 4/12 200k brevet. It has 7800' of climb. I don't care if I DNF due to time, just finishing the course.
    2) running start for riding season instead of spending first half trying to get back to where I was at end of last season.
    3) finish 8/16 200k brevet and NOT DNF and enjoy as much as possible. Same course as before.
    4) hit 250lb while maintaining 500lb dead lift (and other lifts).
    5) return to 100 mile per week minimium target.


    Squishy goals
    1) improve riding capabilities and average speeds.
    2) improve climbing.
    3) get off BP meds.
    4) commute as much as possible.
    5) enjoy as many distance rides with SO as possible.
    6) facilitate Daughter's adoption of cycling as a sport. Perhaps do a populaire, metric, or century with her near end of season.
    7) prepare self to complete TCC New Century 12 week cycle when weather turns bad next year.




    The reason for intervals vs. just ride is 2 fold.
    First, the cold really inflames my hands and feet due to gout. It Hurts like a MF! I don't have a way to make a call of shame if I commute. Commuting was half of my miles late summer / early winter. If I get cold and it is crippling and I still have to get home that day. This might lay me up for anwhere from a couple to many days recovering.


    Second, various studies in various sports report that the safest/fastest way to increase capabilities is intervals. The side benefits of it being most effective in calories per hour, Cardio Vascular improvement, as well as body composition (% body fat to lean body mass). It also gives me a chance to put in the most miles in the time I can ride regardless of weather.




    Taller gearing. HMMM... interesting. Looking at the charts I see that I exceed 100 rpm many more times then intended.
    I will try a higher gear while improving my abitilty/discipline to hold target cadences...




    THANK YOU ALL!
    You've given me a good bit to think on and things to try...

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    Talk to you Dr. about your heartrate. BP meds may be a limiting factor. Are you doing your intervals outside? To work the heart more thus increasing heartrate you need to spin more than mash. Have you tried doing a 20 FTP test? A very important part of interval training is the rest or recovery time between them. over time the work should get faster and the recovery should get shorter. For outside try sprinting from power pole to power pole then rest two, repeat 8-10 times. The workout following do more (9-11), make the pace a bit faster if possible and the rest shorter slightly.


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    Intervals are great... once you reach a certain level of fitness. Are you sure you're there?

    If you want to push your heart-rate higher extend the length of your interval and/or reduce the amount of recovery time between intervals. Remember: there are a million different types of intervals. You don't say what type you're doing. Again: are you sure your workout is appropriate for your goals?

    Also, if you're going to train based on heart rate it helps to know what your actual maximum heart rate is. And let me tell you: it almost certainly isn't whatever 220-Age predicts! I can, literally, ride for hours at 90% of the max HR predicted by 220-age. How is that possible? I've been training pretty consistently for years and my max HR is actually quite a bit higher than the formula predicts. If you want a better idea of what your maximum heart rate is you can look for on-the-bikes tests (ex: this one) or you could use a (potentially) more accurate formula (ex: Karvonen). I train with power rather than HR, so I'm not sure which of the available methods is the most accurate these days...

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    AHA! BP meds are probably limiting your HR. Maybe. I know nothing about them but if they're beta blockers then yup.

    7k feet of climbing is a lot of damn climbing. 120 miles is a lot of damn miles too, I've never done it.

    Get miles in your legs, lots and lots of miles - I would advise >400 a month between now and your event and you NEED to do a ride with that much climbing before your event (doesn't have to be 120 miles). I can't remember what you said you were doing in your other thread but your legs will appreciate the training now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black wallnut View Post
    Talk to you Dr. about your heartrate. BP meds may be a limiting factor. Are you doing your intervals outside? To work the heart more thus increasing heartrate you need to spin more than mash. Have you tried doing a 20 FTP test? A very important part of interval training is the rest or recovery time between them. over time the work should get faster and the recovery should get shorter. For outside try sprinting from power pole to power pole then rest two, repeat 8-10 times. The workout following do more (9-11), make the pace a bit faster if possible and the rest shorter slightly.

    Thanks, checked the bp med it is losartan an angiotensin II antagonist... Makes the blood vessel walls relax. If it effects heart rate then it is time to see Dr. or ER. I have supportive and enthusiastic SO/riding partner, so will incorporate brief sprints into our longer rides.


    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    Intervals are great... once you reach a certain level of fitness. Are you sure you're there?


    If you want to push your heart-rate higher extend the length of your interval and/or reduce the amount of recovery time between intervals. Remember: there are a million different types of intervals. You don't say what type you're doing. Again: are you sure your workout is appropriate for your goals?


    Also, if you're going to train based on heart rate it helps to know what your actual maximum heart rate is. And let me tell you: it almost certainly isn't whatever 220-Age predicts! I can, literally, ride for hours at 90% of the max HR predicted by 220-age. How is that possible? I've been training pretty consistently for years and my max HR is actually quite a bit higher than the formula predicts. If you want a better idea of what your maximum heart rate is you can look for on-the-bikes tests (ex: this one) or you could use a (potentially) more accurate formula (ex: Karvonen). I train with power rather than HR, so I'm not sure which of the available methods is the most accurate these days...



    I think the "certain level of fitness" may be the real answer...
    Just not one I'm disposed to actually hear!


    Type? trying to figure that out.
    What I've tried so far suggests that I need to train to get to the certain level of fitness whether I like it or not. So I have to find what I actually achieve and profit from rather then what will help my goals. I can make the short term goal the 4/12 brevet with the understanding that if it takes 30 hours, that's what it takes. What training is to for is to improve the comfort (well, reduce the discomfort!) and perhaps decrease the time. Early on last season my SO and I did a metric with just short of 3000 ft climb and I did EVERYTHING wrong! I was new to my new bike and ultra low gearing. I spun out on hills early and repeatedly. It was godawful hot and didn't drink enough. I fugg'ed up the fueling horribly but still finished. Still it was fun, some of it...

    So far I've had more fun with "Nasty, Brutish, and Short". Almost the opposite of what I've done in the past, which was longer and longer rides at pathetically low average speed. I must admit I'm a believer in filling in your weaknesses, rather then maximizing strengths...

    I'm beginning to think that if it is a "certain level of fitness" issue, then perhaps my high 140's is 90% of my current max heart rate. I will try various ways of measuring current max heart rate in the next couple weeks and see what that yields. This looks promising to set a ball park expectation:
    http://www.timetrialtraining.co.uk/S...tRateTests.htm


    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    AHA! BP meds are probably limiting your HR. Maybe. I know nothing about them but if they're beta blockers then yup.


    7k feet of climbing is a lot of damn climbing. 120 miles is a lot of damn miles too, I've never done it.


    Get miles in your legs, lots and lots of miles - I would advise >400 a month between now and your event and you NEED to do a ride with that much climbing before your event (doesn't have to be 120 miles). I can't remember what you said you were doing in your other thread but your legs will appreciate the training now.

    Interestingly, I tried Propranolol last year and it was marvelous for my riding. Almost a break through. Average speed went up 20%, resting heart rate declined 10-20... Unfortunately, it made me profoundly morose. Might be worth another go for a couple weeks, see if I can stand the depression for the boost in performance.

    I actually like the idea of more and more miles, it's what I've done in the past. I ended last season riding about 100 miles/week. The season wasn't supposed to end, just throttle down a bit. But my body had other ideas. I finally figured out I have gout and that destroys cold tolerance. Took a while to get proper gear to protect my hands and feet. A bit *** shy as it wouldn't take much to put me out of action for quite a while. So indoors it is, except for those rare days when weather aligns with the weekend! Next week may have a day that is commutable (50 rt, 2000 ft climb), if the forecast holds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    AHA! BP meds are probably limiting your HR. Maybe. I know nothing about them but if they're beta blockers then yup.

    7k feet of climbing is a lot of damn climbing. 120 miles is a lot of damn miles too, I've never done it.

    Get miles in your legs, lots and lots of miles - I would advise >400 a month between now and your event and you NEED to do a ride with that much climbing before your event (doesn't have to be 120 miles). I can't remember what you said you were doing in your other thread but your legs will appreciate the training now.
    Quote Originally Posted by sstorkel View Post
    Intervals are great... once you reach a certain level of fitness. Are you sure you're there?

    If you want to push your heart-rate higher extend the length of your interval and/or reduce the amount of recovery time between intervals. Remember: there are a million different types of intervals. You don't say what type you're doing. Again: are you sure your workout is appropriate for your goals?

    Also, if you're going to train based on heart rate it helps to know what your actual maximum heart rate is. And let me tell you: it almost certainly isn't whatever 220-Age predicts! I can, literally, ride for hours at 90% of the max HR predicted by 220-age. How is that possible? I've been training pretty consistently for years and my max HR is actually quite a bit higher than the formula predicts. If you want a better idea of what your maximum heart rate is you can look for on-the-bikes tests (ex: this one) or you could use a (potentially) more accurate formula (ex: Karvonen). I train with power rather than HR, so I'm not sure which of the available methods is the most accurate these days...
    Yeah, to obtain your 200k goal, you're just looking at time-in-saddle. What sort of a cut-off time do they have? And that necessitates what avg speed? That's where you wanna be training. In fact, you'll want a cruising speed higher than that because the hills will (if you're like me--significantly) slow you down.

    Intervals ARE great for improving your cruising speed, BUT only when sufficient base is achieved. Make sure you've got that. If you don't, train endurance first. Going fast won't help you much if you can only do it for 2-minutes, and it won't help you at all if you're injured due to sore tendons & ligaments. You need the endurance part of the equation, and that only comes from time-in-saddle.

    I would look at starting where TrojanHorse says, more than 400 miles/month. But, I'm thinking that's minimum, and each week& month you'll want to be putting in more time. As you approach the event, you should know what 6+ hours on a bike feels like because you will have done it at least a week (better if 2) before, with some good climbing as well. I'm thinking you should have 2 or more weeks at 200 miles with one ride per week being 70-80+ miles.

    In the end, only you know if you're ready. Any numbers I--or others--throw around are mostly from our own experience, and we very likely didn't follow your training plan or have your goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68 View Post
    Yeah, to obtain your 200k goal, you're just looking at time-in-saddle. What sort of a cut-off time do they have? And that necessitates what avg speed? That's where you wanna be training. In fact, you'll want a cruising speed higher than that because the hills will (if you're like me--significantly) slow you down.

    Intervals ARE great for improving your cruising speed, BUT only when sufficient base is achieved. Make sure you've got that. If you don't, train endurance first. Going fast won't help you much if you can only do it for 2-minutes, and it won't help you at all if you're injured due to sore tendons & ligaments. You need the endurance part of the equation, and that only comes from time-in-saddle.

    I would look at starting where TrojanHorse says, more than 400 miles/month. But, I'm thinking that's minimum, and each week& month you'll want to be putting in more time. As you approach the event, you should know what 6+ hours on a bike feels like because you will have done it at least a week (better if 2) before, with some good climbing as well. I'm thinking you should have 2 or more weeks at 200 miles with one ride per week being 70-80+ miles.

    In the end, only you know if you're ready. Any numbers I--or others--throw around are mostly from our own experience, and we very likely didn't follow your training plan or have your goals.

    13.5 hours wall clock about 9.6 total average... I'll make it even it takes twice as long. Fitness, well that's to make it enjoyable and reduce wall clock. Baring major break down, injury, or accident I will make it. The better shape I'm in the more I'll enjoy it and the better effect on my fitness. The more progress I make between now and then the better!

    I can and do ride 10-11+ mph all day... 30 miles, 70+ miles... Seat time's is no biggie...
    My biggest concerns are:

    The climbs.
    Doing something dumb, like spinning out, not eating enough or timely, or worse staying hydrated.
    I always seem to do SOMETHING DUMB... Forget this or that...
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    THE GOUT!

    But this thread was to pick your collective brains to see where I am and how to improve the most. In this case performance is directly related to radically improving my health and all riding.

    You all have given me so much to think about, integrate, and incorporate what I can. But most importantly actionable both now and as I improve!

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    Very interesting and informative thread. I have the same issue - when running, rowing, and ice hockey, I can hit 190+ bps easily but only 160 on the bike.

    I suspect there is a skill issue: I have decent technique in all those sports, and can really hammer efficiently. I can't do that on the bike right now, even at 6'2 / 245+ doing 100 miles per week. (Well, when the roads aren't covered with ice and snow)

    Maybe pedaling and skill drills in addition to hill/interval work? Either that or perhaps my legs aren't strong enough to push myself hard enough.

    That is my goal this year.

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    Had some logs to cut up.
    Figured a good time to test different activity and heart rate.

    Highest I saw, 148...
    Even though I could barely stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    Had some logs to cut up.
    Figured a good time to test different activity and heart rate.

    Highest I saw, 148...
    Even though I could barely stand.
    OK, so yesterday I went for a ride that wasn't supposed to be super hard but there were a few spots I wanted to see if I could get a PR...
    http://www.strava.com/activities/111450867/analysis

    I actually hit my max HR (177 for me, based on the highest number I've ever seen on a bike) on one hill (about 15.2 miles in, on the "Mur de Brea Blvd, North" segment...). I think the key is you need a slope that's not too steep, and it needs to be long enough to let you really get your inner hammer going, so this one is about a 2 min. effort and it's about 4-5% overall. Not so steep you put it in your lowest gear and spin but not so flat that you run out of willpower to go faster.

    By the way, I rarely hit my max. high 160s is common for me, low 170s is occasional and 175+ is very unusual.

    Give it a whirl.

    Whatever you get is probably your max, regardless of what the books & posters on the gym wall tell you.

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    I can agree with TH in how to find your max. I have found it takes more than a minute of intense effort to get to my max. maybe intense effort is too strongly worded. You have to put out effort just short of blowing up for long enough to get your heart rate up and once you think you have reached your peak, try harder for about 30 seconds longer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black wallnut View Post
    I have found it takes more than a minute of intense effort to get to my max.
    Good point... also note that you should be VERY warmed up. Interestingly, my 2-5min power numbers from yesterday were higher than anything I did all last year.

    Another way to look at max HR is to find out your LTHR (lactate threshold heart rate) which is basically the highest HR you can average for a full 20 min. You can base your training zones off of that number. Joe Friel, and others, go about things that way and it might be a more useful value to you as an approximation to when you start generating a lot of lactic acid into your muscles. It's tricky though, because HR lags effort.

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    I'm saving an official test for when I'm rested enough (per protocol)...
    Given weather report, this should be Monday!

    I intend to use the big ring, up shift every 2 minutes at a cadence of 90 protocol...

    I've seen this referenced in several places. Also seems like a test I can repeat over the years and see if I truly can improve my max heart rate as several (admittedly dogmatic) sites say this is impossible... Where as many athletes report experiencing an increase over time.

    Admittedly, acquiring the heart rate monitor has altered the priority of my goals. Looks like improving CV is pretty critical from a health perspective.

    I was focused on improving so I enjoy the upcoming Brevet as much as possible, or rather suffer less...
    Now, looks like health is paramount and the brevet will be in service of that.

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    Last ride out, flat loop, did 25 miles. Boring ride, no real intense sections (no big sprints), no elevation to speak of.

    Speed 19.4mi/h 23.5mi/h
    Heartrate 164bpm 185bpm
    Calories 1,073
    Temperature 70℉
    Elapsed Time 1:17:09
    http://www.strava.com/activities/111106316

    I was riding solo up till the last 5 miles, when I found someone to ride with. I'm 32 years old, 6 foot 5, 224 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JReade View Post
    Last ride out, flat loop, did 25 miles. Boring ride, no real intense sections (no big sprints), no elevation to speak of.

    Speed 19.4mi/h 23.5mi/h
    Heartrate 164bpm 185bpm
    Calories 1,073
    Temperature 70℉
    Elapsed Time 1:17:09
    http://www.strava.com/activities/111106316

    I was riding solo up till the last 5 miles, when I found someone to ride with. I'm 32 years old, 6 foot 5, 224 pounds.

    Interesting!
    I take the speed and heart rate are average and max?

    Always amazed at how fast people go.
    My averages are in the 10-13 range.

    Admittedly some people are riding Ferrari's and I'm riding a truck, Disc trucker to be specific. But most likely it's not the bike, it's the engine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    Interesting!
    I take the speed and heart rate are average and max?

    Always amazed at how fast people go.
    My averages are in the 10-13 range.

    Admittedly some people are riding Ferrari's and I'm riding a truck, Disc trucker to be specific. But most likely it's not the bike, it's the engine...
    Correct, average and max. Everything is relative, there was an elevation gain of 220 feet, so lets not pretend it's anything crazy.
    Jesse

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    That's pretty fast! I notice a complete lack of stop lights in there, those always kill my averages. Or I'm just slow.

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    For me HR does not always seem to equate to effort or perceived effort based on how hard I am breathing.

    here are my number from thhis week (me 58, 271 and going to doctor to get my come to jesus meeting after my lab resuts came in)

    Intervals on a concept rowing maching. Warm up for 2 minutes, 30 second as hards as I can go (200 watt range) 90 seconds easy, repeat 7 more times and then row until I hit 20 min. My avg watts were 88 or so, I was breathing really hard after each 30 sec hard interval, but the HR didn't get up that high. I averaged an HR of 126. I then got on a spin bike for another 10 min and it was easy to get HR to 135 or so.

    This morning on a techo gym eliptical id did 24 min in long interval workout 4 min at 108 watt, 2 at 153 2 and 108 and so on until i got to 24 min. Avg watts, 132, average hr 143, max hr 156.

    so I feel like i am working harder on the rowing machine, doing intervals but doesnt show in the watts and HR. So it could just be that the hard on and recover of intervals doesn't get the HR up consistently as continuous effort at a higher level.
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    This morning HR stats, 5.6mile commute, 35c semi knobby tire on my CX bike (Schwalbe Sammy Slicks), flat commute w/ crap load of lights
    33yrs old, known max 192bpm


    Speed 26.6mi/h 20mi/h
    Heartrate 170bpm 140bpm
    Calories 268
    Temperature 50℉
    Elapsed Time 19:15

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