I just laid down some money on a new old stock supersix 5. It is a 2012 model black on white. Looking forward to the snow and ice leaving so I can get back in the saddle. Some of the places I go have some dirt but from what jsigone puts his through I should not have a problem. The only concern I have will be the comfort level. I have gone on all day trips with my old aluminum touring and 5-6 hr on my mountain bike, if I can get 3-4 hr on this I will be happy. When my LBS gets a carbon synapse they will let me try both on the trainer to see what I think.