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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Standard 10mm QR axles on Freewheel hubs will fatigue and break the axle, overtime ,

    because the bearing race is well inboard of the dropout..

    Even Campagnolo freewheel hubs ..

    But Phil wood resolved that by making a much fatter axle assembly ..
    I used a Phil Wood Rear hub on my heavy loaded touring bike, for a couple decades ..

    got a 48 spoke hub-shell at another bike shop's garage sale in the 80's,
    sent the shell to Phil, they put in the axle and bearing assembly , then I Built up the wheels ..

    Mavic Mod 4 rim , 5 cross FWIW. 2mm straight Ga. spokes .

    I didn't know all of that. Thanks!

    Is Phil Wood still making freewheel hubs in the correct spacing? I guess I'm asking if I'm better off converting to a freehub? I could still lace up 27" wheels if I wanted to. I assume the only real difference there would be the length of the spokes used.

    I'm still a bit iffy about lacing up a set of wheels myself. Brought my copy of "The Bicycle Wheel" to work w/ me today to try to gird my loins to have a shot at it.
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    That being said..Chamois butter is mandatory for me and this saddle. It makes the difference between painful chaffing and god cupping my balls.

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    they have changed the overall design, from a steel sleeve with the bearing assembly-axle pressed in,
    alloy spoke flanges screwed & bonded to the outside,

    to a machined Alloy hub shell with a field serviceable axle ..

    they're in San Jose Cal so you can call and email them directly .. https://www.philwood.com/

    about the axle end cap pieces to fit your frame .. and its drop-out spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkippyX View Post
    By "cold set" do you mean bend the rear triangles to achieve proper spacing for the longer hubs?
    that is exactly what cold setting is... but it is un-needed if you are only going from a 126mm hub spacing (what you have) to a 130mm (normal road wheel size) i've done that on two different frames (one being my current road bike) without an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkippyX View Post
    By "cold set" do you mean bend the rear triangles to achieve proper spacing for the longer hubs?

    Man, if that's the case my options just grew tremendously.

    I actually do have a budget, but the wheelset you referenced are close enough to it to be an option. As far as the brake reach goes, I've read about people doing that conversion on the same model that I have and the stock calipers supposedly worked fine.

    I had a CR18 on the bike that was stolen. Never had any problem at all out of that wheel - which is not something I can say about other wheels I've had on that bike.
    yes by cold set I mean spread the rear triangle so it is permanently bigger. your bike is almost 100% 126 mm. The 700c wheels will be 130. IME you can easily just put the 130 wheels in a 126 spread. Mountbike wheels are 135mm in that case you would be advised to cold set. remember cold set only applies to steel frames.
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    I have a vintage Schwinn Voyageur, and for it, I had a set of wheels built with 27" CR18 rims and new Tiagra hubs a few years ago. It works well for me, and if I could lose enough gut to get in the drops, I would be on it instead of my hybrids, and I would be confident in using the bike with those wheels.

    So based on my experience, any well built set of wheels is fine, and also spreading a steel frame to 130mm is not a problem. I didn't even cold set the frame, I just take a little extra effort to remove and replace the rear wheel when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Darwin View Post
    I have a vintage Schwinn Voyageur, and for it, I had a set of wheels built with 27" CR18 rims and new Tiagra hubs a few years ago. It works well for me, and if I could lose enough gut to get in the drops, I would be on it instead of my hybrids, and I would be confident in using the bike with those wheels.

    So based on my experience, any well built set of wheels is fine, and also spreading a steel frame to 130mm is not a problem. I didn't even cold set the frame, I just take a little extra effort to remove and replace the rear wheel when needed.
    Same problem I have. The drops are a pain in the butt for that very same reason.

    I'm pretty well sold on the CR18 rims. Like I said, I had one of those on the stolen hybrid and it was a solid rim.
    Quote Originally Posted by Epicus07 View Post
    That being said..Chamois butter is mandatory for me and this saddle. It makes the difference between painful chaffing and god cupping my balls.

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