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    BWR challenge

    Somehow I ended up on the waiting list for the Spy Optic's Belgain Waffle Ride next month. A number of my club mates are doing this and twisted my arm.
    SPY Belgian Waffle Ride

    Routes: 130 miles (10,200 feet) 10 miles with 1,000 feet on dirt (heard they changed to 30miles of dirty fun)
    Difficulty of Greatest Route: F - Ultra Distance and Climbing for events well over 100 miles
    Entry Limit: 500

    Sunday, April 27 -
    5:30am - 7:45am - Belgian breakfast feast
    7:45am - final rider instructions
    8:00am - first wave of riders roll out
    Afternoon - Awards ceremony and post ride festivities (beer).



    Some funny reads on this guy's blog of the event, and report from last yr.
    Belgian Waffle Ride | Cycling in the South Bay



    the carrot is in front of me, guess I should start training

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    Take 2 aspirin

    Seriously, that's quite a ride. 30 miles on dirt and all that climbing, whew!

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    120 miles and 10,200 feet of climbing? This makes the Tram Ride for a free lunch sound like FUN!
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbeasley View Post
    Take 2 aspirin

    Seriously, that's quite a ride. 30 miles on dirt and all that climbing, whew!
    more like 2 shots of Patron at the finish line

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoJoe View Post
    120 miles and 10,200 feet of climbing? This makes the Tram Ride and buying everyone else free lunch sound like FUN!
    FIFY.

    J - So are you on the waiting list or are you in? Good luck, you masochist.

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    on the waiting list, they will charge my card by the 10th if a spot opens up or they really want my moneys

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    great tips from the blogger


    "1) Do not pedal hard during the first 120 miles. That’s right. If you squander so much as a pedal stroke early on, thinking you can hang with the Bordines, the Rogerses, the Shirleys, the Cobleys, and the Dahls, you will come apart at Mile 60 or earlier. Trust me. I’ve done it.

    2) Do not be suckered in by the tasty waffle breakfast. Have your normal big ride pre-dinner and your normal big ride breakfast, whatever that is. Last year I ate 17 waffles and a pound of eggs and washed it down with a quart of coffee and paid the price beginning at Mile 5. That price was destruction.

    3) Avoid the rest stops unless you need water. If your nutritional plan is to fuel up on the Barbie food that will be available by the fistful, you’ll never make it. Carefully pack substantial, real food, like peanut butter sandwiches or a large t-bone steak.

    4) If you stop for water, get back on your bike immediately. Every minute you stop equals fifteen minutes of pedaling to exorcise the coagulated death sludge that will immediately clog your vascular system. If you’re not moving forward, you’re rocketing backwards.

    5) Carry three spare tubes and a mini-pump. Share your tubes with no one. This is not the day to help out people who are unprepared, or who showed up with threadbare tires, or who were too cheap to bring an extra tube, or who are riding on paper thin race tires and latex tubes, or who are simply unlucky. This is their day to die. So it is written.

    6) If you’re not on ‘cross or MTB tires (either of which is a suicidal choice, by the way), run 25-mm heavy-duty training tires. Run new ones, but make sure they have a hundred miles or so on them.

    7) Inflate your tires to 80 or 90 psi, max. The course will be covered with sharp stones, thorns, rough gravel, roots, glass, and dead people. The lower psi will greatly reduce the number of punctures as you roll over the teeth and bones of the dead and will add immeasurably to your comfort over the course of this 10- or 12- or 14-hour day.

    8) Go all-out with your gearing. 50 teeth max in front, 28 in back … 30 if you can make it work with your derailleur. When you hit the slopes of Double Peak and can crank it into your 36 x 30, you will love me and buy me free beer for the rest of the year. If you cheap out or lazy out and show up with real road gearing you’ll founder and die somewhere in the sandpits of backroad North County, never to be seen again.

    9) Do not have a single article of clothing or piece of equipment that you haven’t thoroughly tested and ridden in adverse conditions. This is not the day to try anything new, even that cute chick or guy you picked up at Green Flash Brewery the night before. Sample them later, after you’re dead.

    10) Ride with full-fingered gloves and a ****-ton of sunblock. The sun will drain and waste and sap your vital juices, so cover whatever you can stand as long as you don’t overheat.

    11) Max out your uninsured motorist coverage. In the unlikely event you are injured or killed on the course by a car, this will provide you with an avenue for compensation that you or your heirs will badly need.

    12) Make sure you’ve got at least one 120-mile day on your legs before the Big Day, but don’t bother trying to recon the whole route or to simulate it. You can’t, and the attempt will only destroy your will to live. Treat it like the invasion of Normandy. Prep the best you can, but leave the actual catastrophe to the day itself.

    13) Spend the night in Carlsbad or somewhere close to the start. That way we can all go pound IPA’s until the wee hours. Really. Because whether you show up with a bleeding hangover or fresh and rested, the end result will be the same."

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    That's great advise...and really funny.
    If at first you don't succeed, Skydiving is not the sport for you!

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    That's hilarious. Especially this part:

    5) Carry three spare tubes and a mini-pump. Share your tubes with no one. This is not the day to help out people who are unprepared, or who showed up with threadbare tires, or who were too cheap to bring an extra tube, or who are riding on paper thin race tires and latex tubes, or who are simply unlucky. This is their day to die. So it is written.


    Jsigone - can I have your fancy spinergy wheels after you die? Apparently that's your destiny. Just tell your wife you borrowed 'em from me and i'll come pick them up at the funeral. I assume bibs & snug jerseys are appropriate attire for your funeral too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post

    Jsigone - can I have your fancy spinergy wheels after you die? Apparently that's your destiny. Just tell your wife you borrowed 'em from me and i'll come pick them up at the funeral. I assume bibs & snug jerseys are appropriate attire for your funeral too.
    As long as you promise to rock the lime green tires mounted to them......but looking at the strava recon ride and rode they went to, I might need some hardshell gatorskins or fix my tubeless wheelset

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    Extra loud clacky shoes it is!

    Can you get 28s on your frame? I'd be sorely tempted if there's really 30 miles of dirt. Your stans worked well last time, don't mess with success.

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    rear will fit 28s, front fork will not. Breaking w spoke w/ 25c will cause rubbing inside the fork....like what I did couple months ago.

    The stans tubeless set is sitting on the wall...sighhh..... broke the spoke half way into a century, got a new spoke but the shop mech dropped the nipple into the rim..DOH...I need to remove the tire to fish it out...then saw that the side wall was bulging a bit near the bead and needs a replacement tire which I didn't want to spend at the time. Easier to just grab another wheelset off the wall and go ride then have to fix something, so I've been on the spinergy since and had to get new tires for those. Conti GP4000s2

    Going tubeless would be the ideal option to tackle the dirt demons and those wheels are about 100 grams lighter to make up for putting a 12-28 cassette on there.

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    oh, you're going to go way down to a 28 cog? Gee whillikers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    rear will fit 28s, front fork will not.
    Does that mean you're going to wheelie over the dirt section?
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    Quote Originally Posted by psalm View Post
    Does that mean you're going to wheelie over the dirt section?
    I reserve my wheelie skills only to roll over or avoid downed riders in front of me. From the bloggers ride report of last yr's BWR, there will be a handful of opportunities

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    oh, you're going to go way down to a 28 cog? Gee whillikers.

    OOOH YAH!!! the bastard of a route creator has this within the last 15 miles to the finish..... equivalent to sticking the dagger into the femoral artery and twisting it

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    Meh, that first one is only 5% and the second one is 8% but it's only a mile. What's that you say about ruts?

    Listen, you should drive up to Palm Springs on Saturday morning and do repeats of the Tramway to get ready for this thing. We'll stand there and cheer you on.



    SO is this a team thing like that rapha thing? Or is it every man, child and beast for himself.

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    I don't think I can make the tram thing...I need to get a real century in for the one I botched last saturday (90) from sleeping in. Plus funds are short as I'm double paying my car notes to save money on the back end.....fun to be broke otherwise I might spend it one bikes, guns and whiskey


    The BWR is ever child for them self. Though I should have 5-6 friendly faces from my club in the mix of 500 riders. But some of them I can't climb at their pace. Judging from today's ride, I can't even power climb anymore w/o getting close to the red

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsigone View Post
    I don't think I can make the tram thing...I need to get a real century in for the one I botched last saturday (90) from sleeping in. Plus funds are short as I'm double paying my car notes to save money on the back end.....fun to be broke otherwise I might spend it one bikes, guns and whiskey


    The BWR is ever child for them self. Though I should have 5-6 friendly faces from my club in the mix of 500 riders. But some of them I can't climb at their pace. Judging from today's ride, I can't even power climb anymore w/o getting close to the red
    Dude... ride to the tram. We're doing a metric after, that should get you to er, 240 miles for the day. I know you can do it! And probably still beat us to the lunch stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrojanHorse View Post
    Dude... ride to the tram. We're doing a metric after, that should get you to er, 240 miles for the day. I know you can do it! And probably still beat us to the lunch stop.

    now you sounds as crazy as my buddy that did that couple months ago, but only one ways, as his planned get away weekend w/ wifey turned into wifey inviting her friends to come sunday for shoppin.....women...so he rode his bike home..c ya

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    Man, that's a nice looking route profile!

    OK, I'll drive you home so you just have to ride one way. Make it happen.

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    01:20:23:00
    05:23:59:00

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    Quote Originally Posted by psalm View Post
    Yikes!
    now you know the likes of the group of guys on my club I ride with and how they twist my arm to follow them..."fun" they say..."easy" they say...."we won't hammer the hills" they say....

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    What's the purple wanker jersey and how do you get a purple card?

    maybe there's a place for riders like me on that ride afterall!

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