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SquidPuppet 03-29-14 02:55 PM

Saddle help needed
 
Hi,

I am trying to find a saddle that has a horizontally flat profile, nose to tail, like the fi'zi:ks. The flat profile just seems to work perfectly for my body type. I want something 170mms wide, which it appears fi'zi:k does not make.

I want a quality saddle, but I am not concerned with weight. Light is fine, but not a requirement.

I have searched a bit, but so far I come up empty.

Any recommendations?

Thank you

TrojanHorse 03-29-14 07:07 PM

170mm wide is beyond wide, that's astronimical. May I ask how you came up with that value? 155 is as wide as Specialized makes, and about as wide as I've seen.

Selle Italia makes some flat saddles (I have a SLR max flow or something that looks pretty flat to me) and the Specialized toupe is pretty flat.

Weatherby 03-30-14 05:45 AM

Brooks B17 select is 175mm wide.

Google Lon Handleman's breakin procedure.

SquidPuppet 03-30-14 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16623928)
170mm wide is beyond wide, that's astronimical. May I ask how you came up with that value? 155 is as wide as Specialized makes, and about as wide as I've seen.

Selle Italia makes some flat saddles (I have a SLR max flow or something that looks pretty flat to me) and the Specialized toupe is pretty flat.

Thank you for the recommendations. I came up with that number because I have been riding Brooks B17s for years on some upright position bike and they are luxuriously comfortable for me. I have tried to use them for a more traditional road riding position, but for a number of reasons they wont work when riding in a more aero position. The number one culprit being that their dipped profile requires a nose up attitude which of course becomes problematic the farther forward I bend. Naturally, that has led me to experiment with other saddles. The Fizik's flat profile feels ideal in that I don'd slide forward and I dont experince my valuables getting overcrowded. I also like that the sit bone area is almost horizontally flat left-to-right as well. My problem is that with the many saddles (143-155mm) I have tried, it always feels like I am riding on the inner most edges of my bones. It very much feels like I am only partially being supported by my bones and mostly riding on soft tissue. And you know how that feels after a couple hours. From all the saddle fit articles I have read, my symptoms seem to simply point toward the need for a wider sit area.

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Originally Posted by Weatherby (Post 16624810)
Brooks B17 select is 175mm wide.

Google Lon Handleman's breakin procedure.

Thank you. I love them and own two on my baloon tire Schwinns from yesteryear. They just wont work for me when riding low bars.

Weatherby 03-30-14 12:20 PM

Maybe the Gilles Berthoud Mente.....I don't think the Berthoud saddles in general have as much nose up into the wedding package as the British saddles............I don't think any of the modern plastic saddles come wider than 155, which is what I ride. I searched for something a touch wider but did not find one other than the classic saddles.

TrojanHorse 03-30-14 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet (Post 16625546)
I came up with that number because I have been riding Brooks B17s for years on some upright position bike and they are luxuriously comfortable for me.

Ah, and of course, I just assumed we were talking about road bikes - bike saddles for upright bikes tend to be wider, so your comments make sense.

If you have a specialized store near you they will measure your sit bones for you (you sit on some memory foam and they measure the distance between the dimples where your sit bones squish the material). I came up at about 135mm and they recommended a 145 or 155 saddle width. They may also have loaner saddles for you to try. Fizik is probably the best when it comes to demoing saddles and Selle Italia doesn't demo saddles, but you can return one if you hate it (said my dealer) and apply the credit to another. Perhaps a different model brooks would work - they do have more roadie focused saddles in their line up and some online retailers will give you a pretty generous return policy if the saddle doesn't work for you.

Regardless, finding a saddle that works best for you is a very personal endeavor... what works for me probably won't work for you, etc. Good luck!

SquidPuppet 03-31-14 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weatherby (Post 16625698)
Maybe the Gilles Berthoud Mente.....I don't think the Berthoud saddles in general have as much nose up into the wedding package as the British saddles............I don't think any of the modern plastic saddles come wider than 155, which is what I ride. I searched for something a touch wider but did not find one other than the classic saddles.

Thanks. It does look pretty flat. The skirts are deep though, which cases a problem with the B17. I'll check it out further. Thanks again.

donalson 03-31-14 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16626045)
Perhaps a different model brooks would work - they do have more roadie focused saddles in their line up and some online retailers will give you a pretty generous return policy if the saddle doesn't work for you.

I've read of someone returning a brooks after a full year of riding on it to Nashbar... not something I'd admit myself but it does say a lot about Nashbar...

my b17 and flyer are lovely but I ride a bit more upright so no help to the conversation for a more aggressive riding options

VaMoots 09-14-14 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16623928)
170mm wide is beyond wide, that's astronimical. May I ask how you came up with that value? 155 is as wide as Specialized makes, and about as wide as I've seen.

170 is not unusual and Spesh has made a 168 in some models for at least a couple years now.


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