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Old 04-04-14, 02:46 PM   #1
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Ernie Gagnon vs Boombotix

http://i.imgur.com/R6tNNom.jpg

Boombotix has revised their apology into something a little more respectable:
https://www.facebook.com/boombotix

****** has your back Ernie:
Boombotix: stealing a photo and fat-shaming, all in one post. : bicycling

After that, Boombotix better be willing to put some sponsorship money up for you. Keep on spinning bro.
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Old 04-05-14, 01:44 AM   #2
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Well. That was ****ty of them.
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I sent them an email and suggested they provide photos of the 2 dumb$ss that released the original story and the 1st apology. Then allow Mr. Gagnon to post comments about them and then add it the boombotix website.
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Like Ernie would ever do something that crass.

It seems like it's so easy these days to do stupid crap like that and then if you get caught offer up the "oops" apology. People are jackasses these days.
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Ernie seems like a really class act and that company is reprehensible. I still wonder what has happened with some of the pictures people have taken of me without my permission when out and about, that would be like all my nightmares coming true.
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Cool news - Aero Tech is sponsoring him.
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Cool news - Aero Tech is sponsoring him.
I liked that company already... I really like them now.

They have the best variety of Big & Tall stuff I have seen... good move on their part to help the community, and their sales.
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One quick way to help Ernie is to like him on Facebook. More hits = more support from decent companies like Aero Tech.
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I made sure to do that last night, and also liked Aero Tech Designs.

I never did see the initial apology, which I guess was lame, but the later one seems reasonable. We'll see how the company progresses.

I think the same posting that started the mess would have been much better with the same text but with a picture of a family cruising down a rail trail for the contrast. I think it is fine for a company to target a certain type of rider, but not by making the alternative look bad. A nice dynamic statement that "We aren't for everyone" can be made without putting people down.

Of course, I love the Planet Fitness ads... so maybe I am a little self serving/hypocritical.
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I had never heard of Ernest Gagnon before this controversy. But wow, what an inspirational story. What a great cycling community he has supporting and encouraging him. How awesome is a custom titanium bike to let him do cyclocross! As someone who has never had to struggle with weight or metabolism or be limited by health issues, I feel humbled seeing someone work so hard to overcome obstacles that just dumb luck has kept out of my path.
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Like Ernie would ever do something that crass.

It seems like it's so easy these days to do stupid crap like that and then if you get caught offer up the "oops" apology. People are jackasses these days.
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I never did see the initial apology, which I guess was lame, but the later one seems reasonable. We'll see how the company progresses.
Yeah, there seemed to be quite a stir over the initial apology. I was curious myself what it read. Anyone have the text? I thought the most recent apology was well expressed and seemed to express genuine regret over having done this. My inclination was to give the company the benefit of the doubt for now. Reading the facebook comments though, it appeared that about 50% of the people still feel it wasn't enough, and that the company's offense went beyond being able to apologize and move on. Some of seemed to come from people who personally felt hurt by the ad, and some seemed to just want blood.
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Follow him on Strava! Ernest Gagnon | Cyclist on Strava
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Yeah, there seemed to be quite a stir over the initial apology. I was curious myself what it read. Anyone have the text? I thought the most recent apology was well expressed and seemed to express genuine regret over having done this. My inclination was to give the company the benefit of the doubt for now. Reading the facebook comments though, it appeared that about 50% of the people still feel it wasn't enough, and that the company's offense went beyond being able to apologize and move on. Some of seemed to come from people who personally felt hurt by the ad, and some seemed to just want blood.
They've since deleted the original apology, and I thought I'd heard they deleted the second one too.

I didn't personally feel hurt by the ad. Well, at least not as a big guy myself.

What I felt hurt over is the way I feel their ad portrayed all cyclists, as a bunch of "bros" in spandex giggling at the fat guy on a bike. This subforum, on a DAILY basis, sees the shame and difficulty many people feel when they turn to cycling for weight loss and health. The cycling world doesn't need a bunch of bay area d'bags making that worse for anyone. We ALL know how "fragile" people can be when they're at that point, where they're fed up with being fat and tired of feeling like crap and they've made a decision to do something about it. It's a struggle, EVERY DAY, for those folks to keep pedaling because they feel out of place or somehow inferior.

Here's the thing ... it doesn't matter if you're drilling centuries on a weekly basis or pedaling 5 miles and feeling like you're going to die. What matters is the fact that a person made a decision, to better themselves, and they followed through with that decision and rode their bike that day. What matters is they're better that day than the day before. That's a victory.

The photo they used, showing Ernie in a race ... that's a HUGE victory, but they chose to use it as a means to shame an individual rather than celebrating his drive and determination. Ernie's tough ... he's determined ... but not everyone has that kind of strength and resolve, and if that photo had been of someone other than Ernie, what would have happend to that person? Would it have made them feel bad and ultimately give up?
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Cool news - Aero Tech is sponsoring him.
They make GREAT stuff, at prices that would be good for not so great stuff. Customer service has been marvelous.
I've been wearing their Jerseys for 2 years. Still look like new, though I wash them as normal clothes. I do try to not put them in the dryer, but well I'm a bit absent minded. Their shorts are really comfortable, wish I bought them last year. But their soft shell jacket, now that is awesome!

Glad they are sponsoring Ernie!
Hope they get him one of their awesome soft shell jackets!
He seems like a good dude. Putting himself out there will help a LOT of people!

“I feel free,” Gagnon said. “I feel like I can finally be myself. Beforehand, I felt like I was trapped. I’ve never been able to be who I wanted to be. I always felt like the world was telling me I can’t be that way because I was too big. So to ride with all these guys — I mean, these are elite racers and Cat. 3s — to have these friends is awesome.”

I'm sure the guys are feel the same way!

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Here's the thing ... it doesn't matter if you're drilling centuries on a weekly basis or pedaling 5 miles and feeling like you're going to die. What matters is the fact that a person made a decision, to better themselves, and they followed through with that decision and rode their bike that day. What matters is they're better that day than the day before. That's a victory.

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thanks for that link... this reminds me a lot of looking at Toms early posts... super encouraging... and looking at his consistency week after week, month after month i'm a bit humbled... he's got more saddle time this month than I do... good on him
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thanks for the link, following him now as well
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thanks for the link, following him now as well
Following too, and YOU Jeff, get well soon.

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As you watch him, however, you start to get used to the big guy in bike shorts, especially when you realize that Gagnon himself is way past being self-conscious.
This is a hurdle for some, especially those as young as Ernie. Not only is he doing a great job physically, overcoming the stigma is another way that he seems to be growing by leaps and bounds. When he is down enough to actually fit into lycra, I want to be one of the first to welcome him to club MAMIL.

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talking about being comfortable in spandex... back in HS (in the mid/late 90s) I got a pair for christmas (well a gift certificate (ya know those things before gift cards) to the LBS bought them for me ... I was over 6' tall by that point and hovered around 200lbs even back then despite riding hundreds of miles a month... I've always been a bit thick though the middle, big upper legs etc (although getting down the 190's made me look like a twig and sickly ironicly)... even at that sort of weight and size the idea of spandex was horrid... it took a high 90's super humid mid day ride for me to toss the overshorts back into the house before I went and rode... it was SOOO much better... i've learned as time has gone by that I ride for my own enjoyment not the people who happen to get to look at a big boy riding in skin tight bottoms... once you can get that thought into your mind riding gets so much more comfortable... you suddenly don't have to have the newest high zoot gadget or whatever.

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