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    Butt Soreness Question

    I've been riding a Schwinn Sierra hybrid for about 5 years now, probably a couple hundred miles per year. Problem is, my butt is still sore. I've already replaced the stock saddle with a Serfas from the LBS; some improvement, but still sore.

    Any recommendations? Chamois cream? Another saddle? Both? Something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishboy51 View Post
    I've been riding a Schwinn Sierra hybrid for about 5 years now, probably a couple hundred miles per year. Problem is, my butt is still sore. I've already replaced the stock saddle with a Serfas from the LBS; some improvement, but still sore.

    Any recommendations? Chamois cream? Another saddle? Both? Something else?
    A couple hundred miles a year is not likely enough to build up toughness to saddle discomfort no matter the saddle IMHO

    Just a lay off of saddle time for a couple months in the winter will result in a renued soreness in the spring for me for a couple weeks when riding picks up.

    Saddle is very personal choice, sometimes ya just have to keep trying until you find what works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1986raleigh View Post
    A couple hundred miles a year is not likely enough to build up toughness to saddle discomfort no matter the saddle IMHO
    ^^This. The flesh over your sit bones has to get accustomed to being compressed. It normally takes a couple of weeks of relatively consistent riding, maybe a month. But at an average of four miles a week, it's never really going to toughen up.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Are you wearing padded shorts?
    You might want to look into padded underwear if you don't want to invest in cycling shorts.
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    chamois cream is more of a moisture management strategy for long rides. I personally rarely bother with it for under 60 or 70 miles.

    Check your saddle height too but for the most part, more time in the saddle is what's called for.

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    Ok, not sure if there's a real answer for this, but how soon can I expect to be comfortable? I'm riding about 1-1 1/2 hours at a time, put on upwards of 200 miles over the last 6-7 weeks. Soon, maybe? ��

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    Just ride.


    You might want to check your fit. A quick rule of thumb would be to sit on the saddle and put your heel on the pedal. Is your knee bent? Yeah? Raiser your seat. You may also want to mess around with tipping the nose up or down.

    I'm not sure you're riding enough to warrant it, but I just love Brooks saddles. They're leather suspended between the nose and the rear of the saddle and provide some give, and kind of form to your butt over time. not cheap though - $100 and up - but I've gotten some good Craigslist deals on Brooks saddles, as little as $60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amishboy51 View Post
    Ok, not sure if there's a real answer for this, but how soon can I expect to be comfortable? I'm riding about 1-1 1/2 hours at a time, put on upwards of 200 miles over the last 6-7 weeks. Soon, maybe? ��
    That's a little different than two hundred miles a year, I'd try shorter rides say fifteen min a day every day for a week then up to thitrty at a time every day for a week.
    Also check saddle height and tilt small adjustment at a time

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    Standing up now and then helps.

    Last year I was riding a junk bike with a junk soft Bell saddle from Walmart. I was riding approximately 4 days a week for an hour to two hours. I would stand about every 10 minutes to give the sitting on the saddle a break. I never got use to the soft saddle. Without standing now and then I was in pain in less than 30 minutes. An hour was easily doable if I stood up now and then. An hour and a half though and I was done.

    This year I bought a good bike. I just have the stock saddle and there is very little padding. My normal daily ride (time and weather permitting) is still 1-1.5 hours but I no longer have any pain in the rear. If I think I'm going to ride longer than an hour and a half, I bought a pair of cheap bike shorts. Typical ride with no comfort problems for me with the shorts is about 2.5 hours so far as that's as long as I've ever ridden but have done quite a few that long this year.
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    I've had the same problems and I will blame it on---> Cheap saddles!

    Spend at least $50 on something to put your butt on. The on;y good cheap one I have is a copy of the Brooks. I had a real brooks on a Raleigh when I was in middle school. It WAS by far the best saddle I ever had.

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    IMHO the weight of the rider has an impact too. I am just under 260 now, but there is an extra 50 lbs on each of my sit bones than at my ideal weight, that is a huge amount in pounds per square inch probably.

    I do stand on the pedals every 10 minutes. I tried one saddle and gave it 30 days(Forté Pro SL Saddle)
    , now trying another (Forté Contour XFC Men's Saddle)
    ....been on it a week, not sure yet, but the rider gets 2-3 lbs lighter each week so maybe that helps too.

    My longest ride on the first saddle was 62.5 miles....292 minutes on the bike 52 minutes off the bike buying more water and eating lunch :-). I usually ride 60+ minutes a day.

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    I wonder if the Serfas saddle has too much padding and is thus adding to issue?
    Move along....nothing to see here....anymore.

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    Lower your saddle so you are not at a sharp angle when you ride. Even if you do not get full leg extension give this a try. When you lean sharply forward your seat contact is different as is your weight distribution. For awhile, attempt this. I had similar issues when I just started out riding. It took me awhile but, eventually I was offered this advice. First and foremost is the seat. Find a bike shop that will let you exchange them out as you try to find one that is comfortable for you. I also agree $50 is a easy spend. Walmart specials don't cut it for big folk.

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    Thanks, all, for the input.

    in no particular order:

    yeah, im riding more this year, as cause/effect of weight loss (about 262# now,
    down from a starting weight of about 328#);

    im also considering a new bike (Trek FX?), so maybe that would help?

    i bought the Serfas at the LBS, on their recommendation, when I told them, so I assumed not too much padding?

    also considering a Brooks saddle, but now might wait until I purchase new bike and use stock saddle first (not sure if LBS allows trials, although I understand that REI does);

    have been trying to stand in the saddle periodically, also riding with Lycra bike shorts, with mixed results;

    hadnt tried raising, lowering or otherwise adjusting the saddle itself (assuming I could), but I had been moving forward and back in the saddle while riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishboy51 View Post
    Thanks, all, for the input.

    in no particular order:

    yeah, im riding more this year, as cause/effect of weight loss (about 262# now,
    down from a starting weight of about 328#);

    im also considering a new bike (Trek FX?), so maybe that would help?

    i bought the Serfas at the LBS, on their recommendation, when I told them, so I assumed not too much padding?

    also considering a Brooks saddle, but now might wait until I purchase new bike and use stock saddle first (not sure if LBS allows trials, although I understand that REI does);

    have been trying to stand in the saddle periodically, also riding with Lycra bike shorts, with mixed results;

    hadnt tried raising, lowering or otherwise adjusting the saddle itself (assuming I could), but I had been moving forward and back in the saddle while riding.
    My current seat post has notches or serrations to adjust angle, supposedly a micro adjust seat post allows infinite adjustment.

    First off I'd suggest setting the bike on a level surface and putting a level on the seat to see where your at now.....maybe snap a picture so you have a record (aren't cell phones with cameras great hehe?).

    Then play with the angle a little and see if that helps....I put 300 miles on my first saddle, I have 185 on the second try and I am fairly certain it is better. Taking some weight off your butt using your legs over a bump you can see coming helps too :-). With my first saddle I would stand for ten seconds every ten minutes...the new one sometimes I forget to :-).

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    It took me about two weeks of 30 miles a week before I felt better. And as of today, I have hit 300 miles in 8 weeks and I still feel a bit of discomfort after 20 miles of riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishboy51 View Post
    i bought the Serfas at the LBS, on their recommendation, when I told them, so I assumed not too much padding?
    Just because some other dude likes a particular saddle doesn't mean it's right for you. I test rode a bunch of saddles before settling on a specialized romin evo pro and that one works for me. I have replaced it since with some stupid expensive selle italia saddle that I really like but you can't rely on somebody else's opinion - your butt is different.

    See if your LBS will let you demo a few different saddles, see if that makes a difference.

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    Good advice above, I'd like to add that it has taken me more than the often mentioned 500 miles in other threads to get my Brooks B17 to be comfortable. But it's very nice to ride with. I will add as others have, you need to ride more often, as 200 miles in a years period is not much. Many do that in a weeks.

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