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    Need bicycle shop advice for Clydes

    Hi everyone, it has been a while since I posted. I am riding off and on still but am working towards commuting to work which is 13 miles each way. So anyway I have noticed as I increased my distance that my Trek 830 Mountain XL that I purchased back in 1992 is causing my feet to hurt and my knees to hurt. So I looked up common causes and most said to check for improper bike size. So I read how to measure my bike and sure enough it is a 50cm and I should be riding a 60cm. I have my bike seat as high as it can safely sit without going past the minimum line. I really noticed the sizing problem when I tried to place my feet in the proper riding position and it was very uncomfortable feeling like I was contorting to get in that position. So needless to say as I stated on here eons ago I am in the market for a new bike still but have been doing a lot of reading on biking.

    So to the bike shop subject. I am 6'3" and weigh right at 400 lbs. I am a tough guy but I hate bike shops and the way I feel when I go in there. I live in the Richmond Virginia area and there are two bike shops that sell the bike I am fairly set on...the Surly Disc Trucker although I am not a fan of the bar end shifters but it is a nice touring bike that I am interested in. The main bike shop that has them is in an area called Cary Town hence their name Cary Town Bikes. It is in an uppity area near VCU. I have been in there a few times and they seriously act like a bunch of elitists that just can't be bothered with the non-competitive cyclist. The others that sell the Surly are over 100 miles away from me in the DC area and of course I fear the same type of problem. There are several other bike shops around but they don't carry the Surly; one of the shops I somewhat like is Pedal Power which is family owned but don't carry Surly, their main bikes are Giant and Specialized. Agees is the one that sold me the under sized bike those many years ago and yes I went in for a fitting and even got on the trainer....maybe I was shorter then.

    So what advice do you have for my bike shop dilemma? I don't want to settle for a different bike because the other local shops don't sell it.

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    I'd talk to someone at the shop that sells the bike you want and tell them that you avoided the shop because you felt that they don't cater to just regular riders. You might be surprised at what kind of response you get. It will let you figure out whether you want to do business with them. The LHT disc trucker is a really sweet bike for what you want to do. If you don't like the bar ends, they can be changed out to brifters obviously. You might also want to consider the surly straggler or, if you don't mind flat bars, the surly troll or ogre. A 29er like the ogre is pretty sweet.

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    Call the bike shop and explain your position; I bet either would tell you to come on in and when you get there would welcome you with open arms.

    I bought a mountain bike a few months ago and was 6'3" and 390 lbs... and then last month I purchased a road bike from the same shop. I also have had that shop service my 29 year old Centurion 12 speed and my son and wife's bikes. I am always welcome there and I have dropped my weight to 380 clothed (i.e. about 10 pounds of clothes when you figure jeans, work boots, and full pockets).


    I actually enjoy the bike store experience now

    Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
    REI


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    Isn't REI considered more of a big box type store rather than a LBS? I have bought hiking supplies from them in the past but I was trying to keep my bicycle business to the locals. From what I see on their site they don't sell the Disc Trucker, just 3 specific models.

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    Talk to the management at Pedal Power. Surly is a QBP line. Most shops have a QBP account and can get a Surly through them, even if they don't normally 'stock' such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firesfate View Post
    Isn't REI considered more of a big box type store rather than a LBS? I have bought hiking supplies from them in the past but I was trying to keep my bicycle business to the locals. From what I see on their site they don't sell the Disc Trucker, just 3 specific models.
    That location is a Surly distributor so they might be able to order in what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfred View Post
    Talk to the management at Pedal Power. Surly is a QBP line. Most shops have a QBP account and can get a Surly through them, even if they don't normally 'stock' such.
    +1

    Although they may block certain brands to various shops. Never hurts to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagray View Post
    Call the bike shop and explain your position; I bet either would tell you to come on in and when you get there would welcome you with open arms.

    I bought a mountain bike a few months ago and was 6'3" and 390 lbs... and then last month I purchased a road bike from the same shop. I also have had that shop service my 29 year old Centurion 12 speed and my son and wife's bikes. I am always welcome there and I have dropped my weight to 380 clothed (i.e. about 10 pounds of clothes when you figure jeans, work boots, and full pockets).


    I actually enjoy the bike store experience now

    Good luck to you.

    Dave

    That's awesome! I want that kind of experience with a bike shop. That is why I like the shop Pedal Power somewhat...they are more family oriented, they just don't deal Surly. Congrats on the weight loss as well! I know it feels great. I want to lose weight for sure and I just love cycling in general...that breeze in your face, ability to explore different areas, powered all by fat not gas...gotta love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firesfate View Post
    That's awesome! I want that kind of experience with a bike shop. That is why I like the shop Pedal Power somewhat...they are more family oriented, they just don't deal Surly. Congrats on the weight loss as well! I know it feels great. I want to lose weight for sure and I just love cycling in general...that breeze in your face, ability to explore different areas, powered all by fat not gas...gotta love it.
    Tell them what you want. If they cannot get the Surly, you can always buy from another shop but have them do any future servicing. I read that LBS don't make much from the sale of bikes but from accessories and bike repairs.
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    If you don't like bar ends, buy brifters. The deraileurs don't care. That's something to talk about the shop about, they'll get you pedaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
    I'd talk to someone at the shop that sells the bike you want and tell them that you avoided the shop because you felt that they don't cater to just regular riders. You might be surprised at what kind of response you get. It will let you figure out whether you want to do business with them. The LHT disc trucker is a really sweet bike for what you want to do. If you don't like the bar ends, they can be changed out to brifters obviously. You might also want to consider the surly straggler or, if you don't mind flat bars, the surly troll or ogre. A 29er like the ogre is pretty sweet.
    I "think" but can't confirm, they ship with mountain bb7's so different pull ratios on the disc brakes. I built up one with tiagra brifters and road bb7's..


    Quote Originally Posted by linnefaulk View Post
    Tell them what you want. If they cannot get the Surly, you can always buy from another shop but have them do any future servicing. I read that LBS don't make much from the sale of bikes but from accessories and bike repairs.
    2 near me, are more like big box outdoors stores with bike shop inside. I had some very good work done at one and they were REALLY reasonable.
    The Safari is a capable option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sullalto View Post
    If you don't like bar ends, buy brifters. The deraileurs don't care. That's something to talk about the shop about, they'll get you pedaling.
    The brakes however do...
    <edit> a lot of bike shop selling them list them as Mountain. So would need to swap the calipers as well.
    Last edited by Null66; 08-28-14 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Null66 View Post
    The brakes however do...
    <edit> a lot of bike shop selling them list them as Mountain. So would need to swap the calipers as well.
    Ah, fair point. Cyclocross bikes manage brifters and discs though, so I'm sure there's a way to make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullalto View Post
    Ah, fair point. Cyclocross bikes manage brifters and discs though, so I'm sure there's a way to make it work.
    Yep, road BB7's work perfectly. That's what I'm using. Got them cheap too, nearly new (pulled off someone's new build).

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    Ah, okay. I maintain that's something a decent shop would work with you on.

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    Well I went to Pedal Power which is the shop I would rather work with....funny enough I walk into the middle of the store and begin to look around. What did I see? I couldn't believe my eyes...it was a 2014 Surly Disc Trucker! I spoke to the guy at the shop and he said he could put brifters on with no problem and he also said I could just buy the frame and build it how I want it...not sure which direction I want to go... I am not quite saved up enough to drop $1550 on it yet but getting there. I could have written a check for it right then but I am more cautious with my budget than that.

    I did buy a new helmet while I was there. I got a Giro Savant silver/white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firesfate View Post
    Well I went to Pedal Power which is the shop I would rather work with....funny enough I walk into the middle of the store and begin to look around. What did I see? I couldn't believe my eyes...it was a 2014 Surly Disc Trucker! I spoke to the guy at the shop and he said he could put brifters on with no problem and he also said I could just buy the frame and build it how I want it...not sure which direction I want to go... I am not quite saved up enough to drop $1550 on it yet but getting there. I could have written a check for it right then but I am more cautious with my budget than that.

    I did buy a new helmet while I was there. I got a Giro Savant silver/white.
    Sweeeetttt!!!!!
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