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Old 03-06-17, 05:01 PM   #1
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Supple tire suggestion for 26" MB

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I'm looking to upgrade my wife's Bridgestone MB1 with a pair of comfortable tires in the 1.75 to 2" width. I'd like something with good flat protection and with a very nice, smooth ride quality (lower pressure).

She is going to be riding more with the kids so I suppose flat protection is pretty important since she will not be able to fix a flat.

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Looks more like you're trying to show off your wife...

ANYWAYS, for 26" I love Nashbar Slick City. They are fast, smooth, and cheap. When I first put them on a MTB (to replace knobbies that had disintegrated away), I was blown away at the transformation of the ride quality. These tires are what launched me back into cycling. A bunch of years later, I put them on another MTB, the family "beater", and it became my wife's favorite bike for tooling around town, she is also amazed by how fun the bike suddenly became to ride.

So they're 1.5", not 1.75+, and flat resistance is what it is, you could always beef up with Mr Tuffy, but 1.5 is wide enough for a smaller rider to run at comfortably low pressures (40? 30?), and low pressure provides some flat resistance of its own.

Other reco, you can't go wrong with Schwalbe Marathon Supreme, which does come in 26x1.6 and 26x2.0, but they're spendy. I would also look into Schwalbe Hurricane 26x2, which I've heard great things about, and is much cheaper.

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Compass 26" x 1.8" Naches Pass:

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/co...8-naches-pass/
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Continental Travel Contact 26X2.0

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the globetrotter tyre specifically designed for touring bikes and ATBs
semi-slick profile makes it the perfect travel companion
safe and sporty lightweight puncture protection thanks to additional SafetySystem puncture protection insert
durable casing and long-lasting tread for sports use
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High thread count, fat, low pressure tires.

Schwabw also makes some great stuff. Look into the big Apple, it was designed for what you want

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Anything road slick will have good ride quality if you run it squishy.

If you want supple and quick, you'll need to not have all that much flat protection. About the only very supple 26ers I'm aware of are Compass tires; they're reasonably resilient just because they come in wide sizes which can happily be used at low pressure, but there's zero actual flat protection built in.

Paselas are probably still one of the better middle grounds. Schwalbe's Kojak 26x2 might also be appropriate.
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I am very impressed with Schwalbe's new for 2017 Big Ben plus.
https://www.schwalbetires.com/node/5255
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High thread count, fat, low pressure tires.

Schwabw also makes some great stuff. Look into the big Apple, it was designed for what you want
I have heard good reviews on the Compass tires for rolling resistance.

Not a lot of information about flat protection, but it doesn't appear as if they have significant added flat protection.

However, you could try tubeless with a sealant. Or, even try a tube with sealant
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Michelin Protek or Urban, if you don't encounter lots of broken glass and sharp debris. The 1mm Aramid fabric puncture shield (comparable to Kevlar) should handle most situations. These are usually available for about $20 each from Bike Tires Direct and other discounters.

I've ridden Michelin's heavy duty bulletproof Protek Cross Max for more than a year through bombed out pavement littered with broken glass, construction debris (staples, nails, drywall screws), you name it. Not a single puncture flat. Glass has slashed the tread down to the golden yellow colored shield but nothing has penetrated. They're heavy at 1,100 gm, but tough.

Most Michelin city/mixed terrain tires are rated up to 87 psi, with lower recommendations based on rider weight. They suggest 75 lbs for my weight (160 lbs), but I found that way too harsh. I've ridden them at around 50 psi for a year without any problems: no pinch flats despite bombing across horrible pavement and gravel; no excessive or irregular wear. Occasionally I've ridden 10-20 miles home with the bike loaded with up to 50 lbs of groceries or other stuff, no changes to the 50 psi inflation, no problems.

And they're cushy without feeling mushy. I'm very picky about comfort because of a permanent neck injury, but I also don't want to feel like I'm pedaling in molasses. I average 12 mph on rides of 10-60 miles on a 35 lb comfort hybrid. I'm only a little faster on my lighter rigid fork mountain bike with lighter tires.

And they grip well in all conditions. I don't hesitate to ride 'em in rain if I need to run an errand or just get caught in bad weather on the way home.

My next choice would be Schwalbe, especially their balloon tires if I didn't need a thicker puncture shield. But I'd probably go with Michelins first based on personal experience.
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Thanks for the feedback. I will look into all the suggestions. I use the Compass 650b x 42 and they are wonderful.

Does anyone have thoughts on the Schwalbe Kojak. I have the Big Apples on a Bike Friday. They are nice tires. The Kojak seems to be the same thing in a slick with a little less weight.

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In 26x2.0, I've found that the Michelin City Dry as fast and smooth as any urban "slick".

The best flat protection is active eyeballs, IMO.
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I also just got Big Apple tires in 2.15" for my utility bike. They seem pretty nice so far. Big Bens look good, too. You can't really go wrong with anything from Schwalbe, really.

For my gravel bike I run Bontrager H5's from my LBS in 26x2.0", and they work great for both gravel or paved road riding.
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Our Trek T900 (tandem) came stock with Bontrager 2.0 Comfort tires. I asked the shop to upgrade to Big Apple 2.0 before we took possession. I have Apples on other bikes and like them a lot. The LBS declined to do any exchanges, however, so I bought a pair myself and... 9 months later, after riding the 'Tragers every day, in the heart of urban Portland, we have not had a single flat. So the new Apples sit, unmounted, in the garage! TBH, to get the same kind of flat protection from the Apples I have to put Tuffy's in them. At 60psi the 'Tragers are fast, if a little noisy. 50psi is where I usually start them off. The ride gets better and better and I don't even think about them for months. I'm thinking their sweet spot must be ~40psi. They start to get sloppy after awhile though, but they are still rideable down to 20psi! I haven't gone below that pressure. Since our tires came OEM, I don't know, and haven't checked what they retail for. I don't know how they compare pricewise with Apples. I would assume they are cheaper. Quite a bit cheaper. I'll put the Apples on another bike when its tires wear out. For the T900, it is going to stay on a steady diet of its OEM Breakfast of Champions.
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Why do you think liners are required to get the Big Apples to have the same flat protection as the Bontrager tires?

My utility bike used to have 1.5" Bontrager H2 tires, and I kept getting multiple flats on the rear tire. I switched to 2.15" Big Apples in anticipation of my upcoming e-bike conversion, precisely to reduce or hopefully eliminate the flats that I was getting.
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My only real experience with slick 26" tires is a set of 26" x 1.75" Vittoria Voyagers on my old Ross that I keep at my parents' house. They're quite nice for the week or so that I spend there in nice weather each year.

The higher-end Voyager Hyper is the nicest tire I've ever ridden, albeit in 700c x 32 mm. When I was looking a couple months ago, however, it looked like Vittoria was discontinuing the Voyager line altogether...
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I don't think the Compass tires have any flat protection at all. At least there's nothing in their description about it. Maybe you're supposed to run the pressure so low you don't notice when it's all gone, or maybe the Compass magic protects you from harm. Or maybe they have done the math riding in the PNW where the weeds aren't thorny and the rain washes the road, and decided punctures aren't that common and armor is not required. Around here where we have 300 fair days a year, I got slow punctures in unarmored Paselas in the late summer and fall as the weeds dry out, and many places south of here have goatheads. Glass shards and bits of car tire wire would also get through. Since switching to tires with just the slightest bit of armor, I've had none. But user Giant Doofus had the same tires I do, and had an unacceptable rate of flats, and switched to tires with more armor.

There are basically three kinds of supple armor.
  • You can have thick latex (like a Marathon)
  • You can have fancy armor like a roadie tire - this looks hard to find in 26" slicks
  • Or you can run tubeless with sealant
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I can also say that I rode on Serfas Drifter 26x1.5" tires for about 2-3 years on one of my bikes, which has flat protection built in, and I never got a single flat with that tire. They also come in 2.0" versions.
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Regarding 26" wide slicks, Freedom Thickslicks are available in 26 x 2", including one with extra flat protection. The flat protection may be redundant since Thickslicks are already made with thicker rubber to be flat resistant.

I know some folks locally who ride with skinny 700x Thickslicks on their fixies and like 'em. The 26x2" would be heavier and I don't personally know anyone who's used 'em.

However I do know some local cyclists who ride 26" wide Maxxis Hookworms on their mountain bikes for city use and they love 'em.
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can't go wrong w/ big apples.
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Compass Cycles has supple wide, performance tires at 'if you have to ask how much, they aren't for you', Prices.
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Thanks guys. I think I will try the Kojaks. Similar to Big Apples which I like but a little lighter.
I appreciate the input.
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Try the Marathon Supremes. Better all around tire.
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Yea, I have the Supremes on a Tandem. I considered those but she will only be on bike paths and low miles (with the kids). I figured I'd save a little dough and placed the order.

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