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Old 03-15-17, 08:50 AM   #1
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Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Armadillo or??

Broke my back and just getting back on the bike. I was riding a roubaix and with a back fusion, it no longer fits me. I purchased a used Diverge and it feels good. It had tubeless, but the tire would go flat after a day from seepage out the spoke nipples. I tried re-taping and still no luck, so forget it... Back to tubes.

I spent all night looking for rolling resistance ratings on the SMP, Armadillo (Since I had those on my bike before) or any other wider tire. I am having difficulty finding that data... So to my question;

Which tire will have less rolling resistance on road? I will be 95% road, but want good traction on gravel and slick roads. Texas also has terrible chip seal, so comfort would be nice as well.

Also, better to go 32 or 35? the bike can accommodate up to 35 according to what I read... Any advantages of one size over the other aside from comfort on the 35?

Thank you in advance. ~ Roger
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Old 03-15-17, 09:31 AM   #2
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Must be tire week.

These tires are all about no flats. For neither tire will the rolling resistance or comfort be very good compared to a lighter, softer tire.

There's a review of the Marathon Plus here Tour/E-Bike Tires Rolling Resistance Reviews

Generally, smaller size tires are lighter and more aero, larger tires are more comfortable and have lower rolling resistance. But 32 vs 35 is not a quantum leap.
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I have never worried about rolling resistance on my commuter bike. If the tire doesn't get any flats or just a few per year, it's doing its job. I think the marathon plus is more comfortable than the Armadillo. My SMP on the back got a really big chunk torn out of it. Local bike shop didn't carry schwalbe so I replaced it with an armadillo. So, I'm running both on the same bike. No complaints... And no flats.
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Good info and from the link provided, it looks like the standard Marathon may be worth a look as well. I still want to try and ride with friends and I mainly look at rolling resistance to try and keep up more than anything... When I am alone, I really don't care... But with others I just don't want to slow the ride down too much.
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I commute through some industrial areas of Dallas (more screws and debris than I find in the 'burbs) and used to swear by Armadillos.
The ride was sometimes a bit rough, but they are almost bulletproof.

Then I discovered Specialized Espoir Sport tires. They have the same flat protection as the Armadillos but are considerably smoother riding tires. And at Richardson Bike Mart, they are almost $15 cheaper, per tire. They have served me well, since I switched.
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@MX_2_Spandex, I suggest you look at the Vittoria Voyager Hyper and Compass tires. I haven't tried the Compass tires yet, but I hear nothing but good things about them. They are not particularly puncture resistant but the comfort they are said to give -- which helps keep you on the bike comfortably for hours -- might be worth the occasional inconvenience.

I've ridden the Vittoria. It has moderate but not top puncture resistance, and I never got a flat on them. The tread is thick, and the carcass is thin. When I held them in my hand, I thought these are sure to feel like lead on the bike, but they don't. It's pretty amazing. In fact, they are rated lowest rolling resistance of any tire, last I read. They run LARGE, so get the next size down. If you know your bike can accept 35mm tires, get the 32mm, and it might end up measuring 35mm. I have the 35s and they measure 37.

You want the widest, most shock-resistant tire you can get, and you should play with pressures to see how LOW you can go with pressure. This will reduce rolling resistance and fatigue on your body.
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Tom, I like my Voyager Hypers, especially with their deep clearance price from England, but they're basically oversize roadie tires. OP started out asking about the very most armored tires he could get and only walked it back to regular Marathons so far.
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The OP's description seems to favor comfort and low rolling resistance, though, and (s)he's willing to go fairly wide in size.

I never knew how good a tire could be until I tried some 32 mm Vittoria Voyager Hypers on my touring bike. The caveat here is that we don't have the dreaded goathead thorn here in Sweden. In the two years I lived in Albuquerque, I quickly gave up on nicer Panaracer Pasela TG tires. Thud, thud, thud, thud PFFFFFT! I went back to some kevlar belted cheapie takeoffs that I had, added some liners, and cut my mileage a lot.

Do you have the goathead in your region of Texas?
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Yeah, tubeless was invented for goatheads
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The OP's description seems to favor comfort and low rolling resistance, though, and (s)he's willing to go fairly wide in size.

I never knew how good a tire could be until I tried some 32 mm Vittoria Voyager Hypers on my touring bike. The caveat here is that we don't have the dreaded goathead thorn here in Sweden. In the two years I lived in Albuquerque, I quickly gave up on nicer Panaracer Pasela TG tires. Thud, thud, thud, thud PFFFFFT! I went back to some kevlar belted cheapie takeoffs that I had, added some liners, and cut my mileage a lot.

Do you have the goathead in your region of Texas?
I don't believe so... Main thins around here I have found to cause flats are; glass, rocks and typical road debris....
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I use the Panaracer Pasela PT. It has soft sidewalls; so it provides smoother ride, but the sidewalls crack eventually. It usually costs $30 while the Schwalbe Marathon costs $45.
I get flats when metal nail-like objects puncture it. I plan on using Stan's tire sealant.
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