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Old 03-20-17, 10:30 AM   #26
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Air Zounds?https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Cycle-A.../dp/B000ACAMJC
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Old 03-20-17, 12:36 PM   #27
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Doesn't matter. Cars can't hear any bicycle bell. Nor can most pedestrians, joggers or cyclists wearing earbuds. For those you need an AirZound or similarly obnoxious blaster.

For MUP users who haven't blocked out ambient sounds try a Timber mountain bike trail bell. It can be set to ring continuously or not at all.

I was curious about the Timber and similar mini-cowbells sold on Amazon and elsewhere. So I rigged up my own from some winter holiday jingle bells, ranging in size from golf balls to slightly larger. I used those on one bike for a couple of months until the thin strap wore out and broke a couple of weeks ago. The jingle bells clinked and clanked continuously while riding, varying depending on how smooth or rough the terrain was. If the bells didn't jingle enough while approaching someone from behind on smooth pavement I'd smack the bells with one hand.

The continuous jingling was remarkably effective yet friendly sounding on the MUP. People who hadn't plugged up their ears would notice and turn to look as I was approaching, and usually smiled. I always slow down and pass as courteously as possible anyway. On the gravel trail it jingled continuously and most joggers/walkers would moved rightward without being prompted. There were still a few who'd remain in the center of the path or go the "wrong" way, but they usually remained consistent in direction rather than wandering around aimlessly.

On one occasion a couple of joggers were two abreast on the narrow paved MUP. The jogger to farthest right heard me and tugged the sleeve of her friend who was blocking the path. As I passed the path-hogging jogger muttered "I heard something jingling but didn't know what the heck it was." So it's not foolproof, even when they can hear it.

But my jingle bell experiment worked so well I'm going to buy a Timber bell.

If I rode more often in heavy traffic I'd get an AirZound. But I wouldn't waste money on another flipper bell, no matter how well designed.

And don't count on any noisemaker short of a Doppler effect horn/siren being effective anyway. Tests have shown people can't even tell the direction or approach speed of a train from sound or vibration. Modern trains and tracks are remarkably quiet and vibration free now anyway, but even with noisy freight trains on older tracks people continue to be struck and killed or injured because they misjudge the distance and approach. Only the Doppler pitch shift has been shown to be reliable for indicating distance, orientation and whether the vehicle is approaching or receding.

In some anti-cyclist places, like NYC, you get summonsed by our local pig department for not having bells. They're useless (and worse, make the peds that do hear them even angried) but thats the law unfortunately.
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I use a hamburger bell - sounds nice and works well!
https://smile.amazon.com/Lexco-Bicyc...hamburger+bell
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I have 3 bikes and don't even own a bicycle bell.
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Just put down the cash for a Spurcycle. It's worth it.
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Avoid the Knog. It is flimsy and simply not loud enough outdoors for any situation that is not ideal.
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+1 (actually +3, one for each of my bikes)
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Old 05-12-17, 01:43 AM   #33
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Avoid the Knog. It is flimsy and simply not loud enough outdoors for any situation that is not ideal.
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I pledged for it during kickstarter and it was such a disappointment. It seemed great from the video but it didn't deliver overall.
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I've become a bell snob. Sorry.

I want my bell to have no plastic or a minimum of plastic. It just doesn't hold up.

I've come to realize the superior sound of brass over steel. But brass bells are much expensiver.

The Spurcycle looks great, but I can't bring myself to spend that much. $20 or $25 for the Crane is already pretty steep, but I have one, and I'll probably be getting another.

If I needed an air horn, it would mean I'm going too fast near pedestrians. Bells are for warning pedestrians, not motor vehicle drivers. I am not convinced a noisemaker of any sort would make me safer among motor vehicles.
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I'm taking a chance on this $3 bell which claims to be brass. I don't see how it can be true, but I've got $3 to burn. It will take a while to arrive from China.
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Maybe a Ďbellí acting like a mini tennis ball throwing machine? Thatíll learn those biped zombies ;-)
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Old 05-13-17, 07:15 AM   #37
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I've liked the Dimensions headset spacer in brass. It has a tone/volumethat peds seem to hear. I had an incredibell bar end that seemed to be almost completely ignored. Nothing will help if they are "plugged in".
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I have a Spurcycle bell to alert adults that I am approaching and two squeaky sharks for kids. I find the sharks get the most positive reaction.
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I pledged for it during kickstarter and it was such a disappointment. It seemed great from the video but it didn't deliver overall.
Just read the reviews on REI. Sounds like most everyone is disappointed. Another reason to avoid Kickstarter. Never know what you are getting until it's too late.
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Old 05-13-17, 05:55 PM   #40
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I think your perfect bell is going to depend on what you are going to use it for.

I use mine only for bike paths. Therefore I don't need an extremely loud bell. I went with the sleeker oi bell, however I bought the knock off version from alibaba for like $8. Works like a charm.
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Old 05-14-17, 12:31 PM   #41
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i use the Alexander Graham Bell (by PDW) which is also nice and loud, though it takes more than one ring. it doesn't have that double-ding like the Duet.
Or buy the same thing cheaper: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/...cer-bell-brass
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Does anyone have any recommendations? It doesn't have to be different that these style of dinger, maybe the Filzer is just poorly put together, it is the cheapest of these three.
Generally the loudest bells are the rotary 2-dome bells common in China and now generally available in the US. Best sounding bells are brass bells, with examples mentioned in the thread. Historically the best commercially available bell, combining the two, has been the Lucas King of the Road bell


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sounds like this. My next choice after 2-dome brass is a Chinese rotary 2-dome bell.
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Fun fact: a bell is one of the few items required on bicycles by the 1968 International Convention on Road Traffic. I like a simple 'ding!' YMMV.

You want a beautiful bell with a deep, crystal clear tone and sustain into next week? Lion. Word.

Hard to go wrong with the classic Tokyo San Esu Universal Sound Bell.

MKS Aero Ti or Van Nicholas Ti. Because the answer is always titanium.

Spurcycle decided to play in Crane's sandbox. 'I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.' (BTW, RockBros will fix you up with pretty much the same thing for 1/2 to 1/5 the price.) I own all three. Go ahead and get the cheap one.

Trigger Bell: killer human factors if your hands are never anywhere but on the grips or drops.

Sogreni bell, if the $50 Spurcycle bell just isn't pretentious enough.

King Cage Bar Bell. Spin it off its mounting post and it doubles as a shot glass.

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Fun fact: a bell is one of the few items required on bicycles by the 1968 International Convention on Road Traffic. I like a simple 'ding!' YMMV.

You want a beautiful bell with a deep, crystal clear tone and sustain into next week? Lion. Word.

Hard to go wrong with the classic Tokyo San Esu Universal Sound Bell.

MKS Aero Ti or Van Nicholas Ti. Because the answer is always titanium.

Spurcycle decided to play in Crane's sandbox. 'I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.' (BTW, RockBros will fix you up with pretty much the same thing for 1/2 to 1/5 the price.) I own all three. Go ahead and get the cheap one.

Trigger Bell: killer human factors if your hands are never anywhere but on the grips or drops.

Sogreni bell, if the $50 Spurcycle bell just isn't pretentious enough.

King Cage Bar Bell. Spin it off its mounting post and it doubles as a shot glass.

Ne Plus Ultra: Airzound. Airzound.
Except that people driving cars are supposed to stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk, and bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules, so simply slowing down to go around them makes more sense. Of course you don't get the fun of scaring them with a horn.
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Except that people driving cars are supposed to stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk, and bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules...
Rules, rules, rules. The actual UK law on Zebra, Pelican and Puffin pedestrian crossings:

The Zebra, Pelican and Puffin Pedestrian Crossings Regulations and General Directions 1997

All of the pedestrians in the video were crossing against a red signal, i.e. the cyclist had the right of way.

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Rules, rules, rules. The actual UK law on Zebra, Pelican and Puffin pedestrian crossings:

The Zebra, Pelican and Puffin Pedestrian Crossings Regulations and General Directions 1997

All of the pedestrians in the video were crossing against a red signal, i.e. the cyclist had the right of way.

https://youtu.be/Uc89WTEh-jE
I understand rules, but you still aren't allowed to run them over. Pedestrians are basically clueless everywhere.
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I don't like any of the 3 bells the OP posted. Not at all.

My choice depends on where I live. If I lived in the city I might get something louder and more annoying.

I like my Cat Eye PC1000 alot. One pull to bell chimes, not too loud not to quiet, easy and quick to use:
I can't post pics yet so....it is small. I like that too
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Just read the reviews on REI. Sounds like most everyone is disappointed. Another reason to avoid Kickstarter. Never know what you are getting until it's too late.
It's not about avoiding Kickstarter. It's hit and miss. I pledged for the Spurcycle when it was on KS and that bell is phenomenal among other products I have pledged for as well.
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The 2016-2017 Brompton has a new bell build in with the right brake. I've never had a bell that was so easily accessible and I use it more often because of this.
Edit: It is very compact and I think it's not very loud.. So also some negative points here.
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The only bell that works consistently for me (and it's not always successful even then) is the traditional ring ring.

The spurcycle knockoffs I had were second best, until the striker fell off.

The other single 'ding' bells are pretty much useless.
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