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Old 04-16-17, 07:57 PM   #1
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Reliability of WTB Riddler tires?

Does anyone have experience with the WTB Riddler in terms of durability and puncture protection? That design would suit my need very well, but I think the tire is too new to have much written about it.

I currently use Schwalbe Marathon Supreme and they are fantastic but I'm looking for something with slightly more grip and a little beefier.
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Old 04-17-17, 08:35 AM   #2
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I'm using these but only for unpaved trails. such as dirt, stonedust, gravel big & small. I wouldn't use these for paved commuting. those short knobs would wear off too quickly I think. they've been out for over 1 year I think. I did find several articles & videos on them before I bought them. I'm hoping to really torture them, so I can't answer your initial question until maybe next year, sorry

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Old 04-17-17, 06:04 PM   #3
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Check out Michelin Protek and Protek Cross tires. Both have chevron tread, more pronounced than the Marathon Supremes, for better grip off pavement. Both have a 1mm Aramid fiber puncture shield.

Bike Tires Direct and other discounters often sell Michelins for about 2/3 or 1/2 the price of comparable Schwalbes so they're a good value too.

I've ridden a set of Michelin Protek Cross Max for about 15 months. Excellent all around tires, but heavy with their thickest chevron tread and 5mm puncture shield. They grip well on wet and oil-slick pavement (the kind of stuff typically found at heavy traffic intersections and parking lots), gravel roads, grass, slippery paved turns with loose sand and pea gravel. Remarkably smooth rolling on pavement despite the heavy tread and puncture shield.

I've ridden the Protek Cross Max off any path or trail on open fields and pastures, grassy levees, up and down dry dirt hills (no trails), with only a little slippage in dry conditions on steep slopes. Only time they've let me down was in soaking wet black gumbo mud deceptively covered in rye grass. I failed to notice the ground cover changed from native prairie, with good root structure, to a recently disturbed patch of soil seeded with winter rye to minimize topsoil runoff. Winter rye has no significant root structure, so the tires quickly packed up solid with slimy black gumbo mud. Probably would have happened with even the best knobbies. I washed the goo off in a nearby stream.

Not a single puncture flat on the same roads that have flatted every other tire I've ridden (Specialized, Innova, Continental), some multiple times in a month during the worst of the dried out goat head grass burr season, and roads with lots of broken glass and construction debris. The Protek Cross Max tread has been slashed down to the yellow Aramid shield in a few places, but nothing has penetrated. If the slashes were more than 1/8" long I filled them with Shoe Goo, which lasts for weeks or months depending on mileage and conditions. No accelerated deterioration or wear where glass has slashed the tread.

The regular Protek and Protek Cross tires should feel lighter, smoother rolling and still offer some advantages over Michelin's Urban and similar lightly treaded tires with just shallow sipes, if you're needing more traction off pavement.

One drawback to the more pronounced chevron tread: When you look at the photo illustrations you'll see squared off shoulders where the tread abruptly stops. Good for digging in off pavement. But this will feel squirmy at first on tight turns. So if you get any tires, regardless of brand, with that design, practice turns carefully before heading into traffic and taking a fast left turn in a busy intersection. I've never skidded, but I could feel a bit of tread squirm the first few rides.

If that's a problem the lighter tread regular Protek and Urban tires might be better. But they probably won't be better than the Schwalbes you already have. The tread appears very similar.

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Does anyone have experience with the WTB Riddler in terms of durability and puncture protection? That design would suit my need very well, but I think the tire is too new to have much written about it.

I currently use Schwalbe Marathon Supreme and they are fantastic but I'm looking for something with slightly more grip and a little beefier.
I have the Riddler in the 700x45 size. I use it on a gravel bike for rural gravel roads, some which are very rough. The Riddler is a tough tire and has been flat free. I certainly would recommend it for gravel.

I'm not sure it's an ideal commuter tire. What kind of roads do you plan to use the tire on?

If you plan to use the tire on pavement, this tire is recommended: http://www.bicyclerollingresistance....t-contact-2016

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I wouldn't use these for paved commuting. those short knobs would wear off too quickly I think.
I agree; I put a pair of Vee Rubber V12 on my commuter, and the back tire was about half worn out after about 500 mi.

I also ride Supremes now, and I'm also looking for something 'beefier', really I just want something cheaper, and something that looks more badass, not as fredly. Some options I'm considering are all Schwalbe: Hurricane, Marathon Cross, and their new Marathon GT365
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Schwalbe: Hurricane, Marathon Cross, and their new Marathon GT365
those are badass for sure! for a brief moment I considered Continental Top Contact Winter Reflex Bike Tires 700x42

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