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Old 06-26-17, 02:09 AM   #26
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I guess it's a good thing, as 559mm is pretty small, but I wish they didn't call it 27.5". It's just a dumb name, since the rim is smaller than a 27" rim.
Well, traditional sizing names are based on the diameter of the tire in rideable condition, so it wasn't completely picked out of thin air...


But yeah, I'm not particularly fond of the old method either.
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Well, traditional sizing names are based on the diameter of the tire in rideable condition, so it wasn't completely picked out of thin air...


But yeah, I'm not particularly fond of the old method either.
ISO makes the most sense ... 559 and 622 being the most common and there's no hassle then about the width of the tire itself.

I usually roll on 23-622 on my singlespeed bike, can't really confuse that.
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interesting, I didn't know MTB manufacturers were going with 650B or -584mm sizes now.
It's only been going on for a decade or so.
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It's only been going on for a decade or so.
I've spent the last decade in Europe and there was a push from 26" to 29" inches (US terms) or -559 to -622 (ISO/DIN).

For example, CUBE didn't have any 27.5" / 650B / -588 bikes when I bought my last MTB (about 5-6 years ago) and I followed the company until moving to the UK (2013).

Thus, I am slightly surprised. It makes sense for proper riding in the mountains/trails when trees need to be rolled over.

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I guess I'm just out of the loop and I've become more interested in home restoration.
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I've spent the last decade in Europe and there was a push from 26" to 29" inches (US terms) or -559 to -622 (ISO/DIN).

For example, CUBE didn't have any 27.5" / 650B / -588 bikes when I bought my last MTB (about 5-6 years ago) and I followed the company until moving to the UK (2013).

Thus, I am slightly surprised. It makes sense for proper riding in the mountains/trails when trees need to be rolled over.

https://www.cube.eu/2017/hardtail/

I guess I'm just out of the loop and I've become more interested in home restoration.
Ooh, how's that going? My wife and I just redid our kitchen to add a gas stove/hood, subway tile backsplash, and a large farmhouse sink. She loves it now.

My answer about tire sizes may have come off more snarky than intended, since I had to run off to a meeting. I think in the US, mountain bike people realized that the really big wheels created by 700C rims with 2.3" (or bigger) tires can cause issues for smaller bikes and aren't really necessary for most riding. So they sought an in-between size that was taller than the old 26" standard, and went with 650B. (650A, or the old English 3-speed rim, would have worked just as well, but I guess 650B was more interesting.) Perhaps at some point the pendulum will swing all the way back to 26" wheels (lighter! more nimble!) but 650B is where things are right now.
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I have a Suomi Nokian tire for Utility riding, .. 622-40 was My 1997 touring tires, & 559 - 50,

the 26" tires are studded, still functional , I got them 25 years ago.. it's a long wearing hard type of rubber.




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I have a Suomi Nokian tire for Utility riding, .. 622-40 was My 1997 touring tires, & 559 - 50,

the 26" tires are studded, still functional , I got them 25 years ago.. it's a long wearing hard type of rubber.




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Those Nokian tyres are everlasting ... You should see their initial mobile phones as well.

Super durable, whatever they used to make.
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Ooh, how's that going? My wife and I just redid our kitchen to add a gas stove/hood, subway tile backsplash, and a large farmhouse sink. She loves it now.

My answer about tire sizes may have come off more snarky than intended, since I had to run off to a meeting. I think in the US, mountain bike people realized that the really big wheels created by 700C rims with 2.3" (or bigger) tires can cause issues for smaller bikes and aren't really necessary for most riding. So they sought an in-between size that was taller than the old 26" standard, and went with 650B. (650A, or the old English 3-speed rim, would have worked just as well, but I guess 650B was more interesting.) Perhaps at some point the pendulum will swing all the way back to 26" wheels (lighter! more nimble!) but 650B is where things are right now.
Were restoring all of the original floorboards and adding 5 cast iron fireplaces to the house. We're currently opening the chimney breast is the kitchen for a dual-fuel cooker like this:

cookers

To be honest, there's not so much to the houses except wood and brick, so once it's out it's a blank template. It's quite fun but quite messy.
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Those Nokian tyres are everlasting ... You should see their initial mobile phones as well.

Super durable, whatever they used to make.
Nokia phones was Bought out.. I expect the places that assembled them, if in Finland, have been shut.
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cool, I guess they are like the Big Apples? what size (width) did you buy 2"? 2.15" & pressure(s) are you using?
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Were restoring all of the original floorboards and adding 5 cast iron fireplaces to the house. We're currently opening the chimney breast is the kitchen for a dual-fuel cooker like this:

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To be honest, there's not so much to the houses except wood and brick, so once it's out it's a blank template. It's quite fun but quite messy.
Very cool. Are you blogging the process anywhere?
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Very cool. Are you blogging the process anywhere?
Nah, man. Gf is German and likes her privacy. I'll through some into the BSO thread. She'll never find that.
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cool, I guess they are like the Big Apples? what size (width) did you buy 2"? 2.15" & pressure(s) are you using?
They sure look similar to the Big Apples. I'm currently running 40psi but am not sure if this is optimal. The tire says 30-70psi (if I recall correctly). I'm concerned about premature tread wear vs. speed and comfort.

What is the prevailing opinion on commuter MTB tire pressures?
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[QUOTE=broncos730;19693655]currently running 40psi but am not sure if this is optimal. The tire says 30-70psi (if I recall correctly). I'm concerned about premature tread wear vs. speed and comfort. What is the prevailing opinion on commuter MTB tire pressures?[/QUOTE

that's a really specific question I couldn't answer. that pressure sounds OK to me tho. you are the best judge. I'd say if they deflect a lot with all your weight on them they might need more air. a little bulge is OK

optimal pressure is a balancing act for sure. I have some new high volume tires on my hybrid. max listed on sidewall is 87 but I run them 40/50 & they seem perfectly fine, practically no bulge & I'm approx 214 lbs lately. sorry if I already mentioned that
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currently running 40psi but am not sure if this is optimal. The tire says 30-70psi (if I recall correctly). I'm concerned about premature tread wear vs. speed and comfort. What is the prevailing opinion on commuter MTB tire pressures?[/QUOTE

that's a really specific question I couldn't answer. that pressure sounds OK to me tho. you are the best judge. I'd say if they deflect a lot with all your weight on them they might need more air. a little bulge is OK

optimal pressure is a balancing act for sure. I have some new high volume tires on my hybrid. max listed on sidewall is 87 but I run them 40/50 & they seem perfectly fine, practically no bulge & I'm approx 214 lbs lately. sorry if I already mentioned that
Pretty much what I was thinking. Thanks for the feedback!
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