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    I have a Trek 2000 road bike with 700x25 armadillo turbo tires. They are looking pretty weathered so I figured its time for some new ones before I get a flat. I'm just starting commuting and that what the bike is mainly going to be used for plus some fun rides and some running errands. I might even try some winter cycling so I would like a good all around tire that wont go flat easily. I think thats all. Thanks in advance!

    Please also post where I can buy them.

    Also, when you're sitting on your bike, should the tire look like its kind of going flat. Should it buldge out on the sides at all?

    One more thing, what is the different kind of tires you can get like folding tires? I dont really understand that. Thanks!
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    I like my Armadillo Nimbus and Armadillo Hemisphere tires. The hemisphere is fatter so I have that one up front for better traction and the more narrow Nimbus with higher pressure in the rear for better rolling resistance.
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    where can I get Armadillo brand tires?

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    From the Sheldon Brown page:

    A tire is supposed to deflect a bit under load. This deflection the whole purpose of pneumatic tires. When you sit on your bike, your tires should visibly bulge out at least a bit under your weight. If they don't, they're overinflated.
    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tires.html




    Quote Originally Posted by craigery
    Also, when you're sitting on your bike, should the tire look like its kind of going flat. Should it buldge out on the sides at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigery
    where can I get Armadillo brand tires?
    They are a sub brand of Specialized. I got mine straight from the specailized website. I had a problem with one of them and they took it back no problem.
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    Awesome. Thanks guys. I'll do some more reading on that site. Thanks for the link.

    Any other suggestions on tires?

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    I've been using Schwalbe Marathon tires. Like the Armadillos, they have a kevlar belt that helps prevent punctures. I have had two punctures in about 1000 miles, not great but not bad. One puncture was from a very thin piece of wire probably got stuck and then repeatedly pushed until it got through, and the other puncture was from a sharp-tipped screw that probably would have gone through a car tire. So, no complaints. I've ridden lots of glass with no worries.

    There is also a Marathon Plus, which, I gather, is a extra thick Marathon. I don't mind the occassional puncture, so I went with just the Marathon.

    Try http://aebike.com or http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/ , or google Schwalbe Marathon.

    Folding tires use kevlar beads (instead of wire) to hold the tire to the rim. The kevlar is lighter, and it is flexible, allowing you to fold the tire for transport. If you were touring and wanted a spare tire, not just a spare tube, you would want a folding tire in order to be able to stash it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigery
    I have a Trek 2000 road bike with 700x25 armadillo turbo tires. They are looking pretty weathered so I figured its time for some new ones before I get a flat. I'm just starting commuting and that what the bike is mainly going to be used for plus some fun rides and some running errands. I might even try some winter cycling so I would like a good all around tire that wont go flat easily. I think thats all. Thanks in advance!
    I'm using a set of Panaracer T-Serv tires (700x32C), which I had my LBS order about 2 months ago. They seem to be working well... the only flat to date was apparently caused by a defective tube. Several glass shards have attacked, but none have made it past the aramid belt.
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    I just buy whatever looks to have the deepest discount from Nashbar.com. I might read some reviews of the tire first, but for me it's all about the bargain... well, and the aesthetics. I do aim for tires that have a good reputation. Right now I've got Continental Ultra 2000s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonguard
    Right now I've got Continental Ultra 2000s.
    I had pair of those on my road bike that I got at bargain prices. 200 miles later, the front one got a big slash in the tread and sidewall. Not much of bargain. I decided I'd rather have a full-price tough tire than a wimpy bargain-priced tire.

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    I'll probably go with the Conti Gatorskins or Grand Prix's when my stock tires go but that shouldn't be for a while.
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    Cheap or light tires definately don't do it for me. Every time I have ridden my commute with any tire that doesn'y have a kelvar belt I've gotten flats within a week. With Marathon's or Marathon Slicks I roll right through the piles of broken glass with hardly ever a flat (Sometimes you just can't miss the glass in the wasteland that is my commute). I have ridden with slightly lighter and cheaper tires than the Marathons but the ones I've used are still on the tough side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnbacon
    I've been using Schwalbe Marathon tires. Like the Armadillos, they have a kevlar belt that helps prevent punctures. I have had two punctures in about 1000 miles, not great but not bad. One puncture was from a very thin piece of wire probably got stuck and then repeatedly pushed until it got through, and the other puncture was from a sharp-tipped screw that probably would have gone through a car tire. So, no complaints. I've ridden lots of glass with no worries.
    There is also a Marathon Plus, which, I gather, is a extra thick Marathon. I don't mind the occassional puncture, so I went with just the Marathon.
    There's a new Marathon X? coming with aramid. Now they tell us the marathon are designed to hold junk. They assume the kevlar will stop problems. But if you run thru a thorn patch, or glass debrie, it might be good to check the tires when you get at destination to see nothing is still embedded. I don't do that, but anal preventative person might.

    I have about 300 miles on my marathons with no flats, vs 2 on the michelin's in 400 miles.
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    Becareful about the size of the tires people are recommending. Most of the tires mentioned here are heavy wide tires that don't fit on a modern "road" bike. They work best on cyclocross or touring bikes. I'm not sure about the Trek 2000 but you probably can handle anything larger than 28 without fenders and 23-25 with fenders. In that size the most durable tires are probably Armadillos and Conti Gatorskins are lighter and better rolling but still pretty tough.
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    The marathon XR will be 700x60. definitely wide.

    The marathon slick is available in 700x30. If that's too wide, you might check
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    I ride the armadillo's 700x23 and they have proven flat free...Although the sidewalls seem to be fraying after a season of 20-25 miles/3-4 days a week.

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    i just got conti ultra gatorskins because i ride around 20miles a day on a 82 or so schwinn world sport with 27x1 1/4, they seemed to be the best reviewed tire in my size and it is a world of difference over any other tire i've ridden the same size, i like it, i can't speak to much on the durability of them because like i said they've only been on a week but they seem to be awesome at this point, definetly worth the money so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonguard
    I just buy whatever looks to have the deepest discount from Nashbar.com. I might read some reviews of the tire first, but for me it's all about the bargain... well, and the aesthetics. I do aim for tires that have a good reputation. Right now I've got Continental Ultra 2000s.
    700 miles, some glass, and no puctures...yet.

    Ok, both tires flatted when I got into a gnarly crash, but I think that was because the sidewalls got chewed up. Either way, they've been fine so far.

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    I've had real good results with the Panaracer Pasela TG (TourGuard) aramid belted kevlar bead tires. I have run them in 700x35s, 700x32s and currently run 700x28s. They are light, have low rolling resistance, compliant ride and seem quite flat resistant. Only one flat in 5 months of 5 day a week commuting, and that one turned out to be a rimstrip problem, unrelated to the tire.

    I have a set of Nimbus Armadillos that I ran for a couple weeks and hated them. They weigh twice what the Pasela TGs weigh (although they are wire bead 700x38s as opposed to the kevlar bead 700x28 Paselas), rolling resistance was high and the ride quality was terrible.... very rough.

    The Pasela TGs also cost about 1/2 what the Nimbus Armadillos cost too, when I bought them through Nashbar on sale. I bought the Armadillos at a LBS for full price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnbacon
    There is also a Marathon Plus, which, I gather, is a extra thick Marathon.
    They certainly are thicker.
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    If the Armadillos have been working well for you, why would you want to use a different brand. Your post indicates you haven't had a flat. I'd say that's pretty good results from a tire on the road. Keep the tires pumped to above 100 psi. I used the 700X25 Armadillos before, and had them at 105. I'm a big guy, and had no problems. If you want, you can air them up to the max at 125 psi. Are you using a floor pump with a gauge to accurately pump up your tires?
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    i got hit by a car today and dragged about 25 feet before the lady stopped, i was stuck to the side of the car, anyway, i needed new wheels front and rear, some new cables and a general tune up, the lady that hit me couldn't beleive how much wheels cost and the guy at the shop couldn't beleive that my tires were in as good shape as they were with how long i dragged(it happened to be a few doors down from the shop where i was hit and he happened to be walking along when it happened), anyway the conti ultra gatorskins are tough as nails

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    I ended up ordering the conti gatorskins last monday and received them on saturday. I installed them and on sunday rode my longest distance at 27.2miles and I absolutely LOVE the tires. They roll really well. I didnt have to put as much effort into them as i did with the armidillos.

    Thanks for all the recommendations!

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