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Old 08-20-05, 07:43 PM   #1
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Pannier Hooked-Up by SUV

A few days ago I was riding VC when all of a sudden a SUV driving parallel to me started to merge into my path along the right side of the street. Without enough space to brake, I was squeezed against the passenger side door and the curb up until the moment I decided to jump off my bike as to avoid being pulled under the rear wheels of the SUV. While jumping off, my rear rack pannier (on the left side of my bike) hooked onto the rear bumper of the SUV, which swung me and my bike around.

Luckily, I was able to jump off my bike safely (without any injury to myself or damage to my bike.) But I'm wondering what side it is "smarter" to have a pannier? I've always thought that having it on my left side may encourage cars to give me more space as they are passing me, but after this past incident I'm wondering if it would be safer to have it on the right side to avoid it being "hooked" again. What are your thoughts?


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Old 08-20-05, 07:56 PM   #2
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That is scarry man. Glad to hear you are ok. Did the driver stop?
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Old 08-20-05, 08:25 PM   #3
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That is scarry man. Glad to hear you are ok. Did the driver stop?
Thanks kwhord . . .

The driver did stop (eventually) . . . but never even bothered to get out of her SUV. To my surprise I wasn't all that mad her, just happy to be injury-free I picked up my bike which lay in the street and walked over to her and started questioning her (calmly) as to why she didn't have her turn-signal ON and why she wasn't aware of me despite the fact that we had been riding in clear view of one another. I just told her I was okay, and that I just wanted to get back to my ride.

Since she never bothered to get out of her car she didn't notice the large 16 inch scratch on her passanger side door from my handle bars That scratch made my day
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it's called 'Kar'ma. Get it? haha, I'm tired...
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Since she never bothered to get out of her car she didn't notice the large 16 inch scratch on her passanger side door from my handle bars That scratch made my day
Excellent!!!
Im glad you wernt hurt badly and your bike was not damaged.

Ride Safe!
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My handlebars extend further out than my panniers.
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I take it she had absolutely no answer for any of your questions. Hope she enjoys the door later. Hope she also realizes that it's her own damn fault.
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I take it she had absolutely no answer for any of your questions. Hope she enjoys the door later. Hope she also realizes that it's her own damn fault.
And hope she learned a lesson.
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I drove one of those behemoths for a while, SUVs are really not conducive to having a good idea where the corners of the giant lumbering rhino are. And a lot of drivers would have trouble in a Mini anyway.
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Since she never bothered to get out of her car she didn't notice the large 16 inch scratch on her passanger side door from my handle bars That scratch made my day
I'd be hoping more for a ripped off door and destroyed car, but I think thats asking too much
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You went off your bike while moving. This usually means you at least have a scratch. In my state, that requires a mandatory report of the accident. I'd have told her we were going to exchange info, and if she refused, gone to the doctor for treatment, then filed the report myself. Her not filing the report is worth a ticket in itself.
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You went off your bike while moving. This usually means you at least have a scratch. In my state, that requires a mandatory report of the accident. I'd have told her we were going to exchange info, and if she refused, gone to the doctor for treatment, then filed the report myself. Her not filing the report is worth a ticket in itself.

I didn't pursue getting her information because I knew that I wasn't hurt or my bike damaged. I also couldn't prove that it was her fault. Like I said, I was just SOOO happy that I got away from the incident without a scratch, that during that moment I didn't care about anything else. I guess I was in a state of "Happy Extacy" after the accident, and that kept me from thinking straight. Although, I was some how able to remain pretty calm and polite to the driver of the SUV.

Thanks for all the comments & questions . . . but can someone please answer my question:

"Which side (if any) is it better to put a single rear pannier?
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Sometimes I wish the bar-ends on my commuter weren't so soft. No wonder the OP wasn't pissed -- you get free revenge.
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"Which side (if any) is it better to put a single rear pannier?
I would leave it on the left side, reason being is you can attach lights. ect to it and may help ya been better (or not?). I think what happend to you is a freak accident, lt least she hit the bag itself and not you!

Were just happy that your OK!
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Defintately her fault. But here's another perspective.

Some places instruct women to "stay in their vehicles" when THEY'VE been intentionally rammed. I wonder if she thought YOU rammed her?

Then after you questioned her, I'm sure she understood differently.

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You may need to have a bar or flag that extends out from the side of your bike so drivers can give you more clearnance.
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Old 08-21-05, 05:24 PM   #16
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You may need to have a bar or flag that extends out from the side of your bike so drivers can give you more clearnance.
Thanks vrkelley, but I don't need a flag . . . I just need people to not merge into Me with the mobile homes they call "SUV's"
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Yeah, I hear ya I don't have a flag either. Lane position may help. When your front tire is slightly in front of her Rt mirror, she should be able to see you without dropping her phone or whatever If you're passing a line of traffic, you'll need to either sprint to get to that spot or be ready to do a hard stop and let them merge in.

Since you'll be slightly in front of the car, you'll need to watch for 'courtesy braking' instead. Courtesy braking is when they motion an oncoming car to turn in front of them/you. Of course the turning car has no clue that you're there!
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Yeah, I hear ya I don't have a flag either. Lane position may help. When your front tire is slightly in front of her Rt mirror, she should be able to see you without dropping her phone or whatever If you're passing a line of traffic, you'll need to either sprint to get to that spot or be ready to do a hard stop and let them merge in.

Since you'll be slightly in front of the car, you'll need to watch for 'courtesy braking' instead. Courtesy braking is when they motion an oncoming car to turn in front of them/you. Of course the turning car has no clue that you're there!
Yeah, thanks for the insight . . . I've come to understand that the safest time to pass is when cars are all stopped and clugged up. I try to be "interactive & polite" when I'm keeping pace with a group of cars. It's always refreshing to find a "friend" (aka understanding/friendly driver) that makes VC safer in a group of cars, by kindly acknowledging my presence.
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