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    Hi all,
    I'm looking for advice on whether I should go for Trek or Giant. I checked out the 7500fx today and boy it was nice. Got off the ground *real* fast. But I'm wondering if it's really worth the extra $$$ for the 7500fx over the 7300fx. The shop owners were saying that paying for the better components is generally better, and that I'd probably be coming back [repairs/maintenance] more often with the 7300fx.

    In either case, I'm trying to stay away from paying more than $400-500, the 7500fx I saw was at $599 (are most shop owners prone to bargaining?). I'm mostly going to be using whatever bike I get for my 6-8mile commute to work. And I'll probably get into riding on Saturdays as well. I'd like to invest in a nice bike that does a little more than 'get the job done'

    I've also heard good things about the Giant FCR, SX and SL. I couldn't find the SL on Giant's site either. I also asked one employee if Giant and Trek are the same company but he said they were different. Are Giant's still worth considering over Treks though?

    BTW: I noticed the components on the Giant FCR3 are "tiagra" whereas the 7500fx has "deore" --- what's the major difference between the two? are they substantially better than the shimano C-series and alivio?
    What would you guys recommend? I really want to get a bike ASAP and need all the advice I can get. Thanks!
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    The 2006 treks in the 7.xx series are coming out so maybe there is room for the shop to negotiate.

    http://freewheelbike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=146

    Unfortunately, no pictures of the 7500fx replacement at this link. Maybe someone else has a link to the new treks.

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    I have the 7500FX, it's a pretty sweet ride. The only thing is, you can't really take it on gravel/wood chip paths, because of the slick tires. But it flies on roads, my top speed on flats is 10-15 km/h higher than my old mountain bike with slicks.

    Oh, and Deore components are better than Tiagra, AFAIK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-o
    I have the 7500FX, it's a pretty sweet ride. The only thing is, you can't really take it on gravel/wood chip paths, because of the slick tires. But it flies on roads, my top speed on flats is 10-15 km/h higher than my old mountain bike with slicks.

    Oh, and Deore components are better than Tiagra, AFAIK.

    thanks for the info guys. regarding the tires, can't you always change the tires to tires suited for both road and gravel/wood chips/etc? or will other tires not fit?

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    The 7500FX can probably fit a more aggresively treaded tire, like the tires the 7300FX comes with. Regarding what the shop employees have told you about the difference between the two Trek models, they are downright lying. The components on the 7300FX will last as long or longer than those on the 7500FX. What you get by paying more for components is lighter weight and faster shifting. Properly setup, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two unless you had a lot of miles with one of the bikes.

    It's hard to compare Deore (a MTB groupset) with Tiagra (a road bike groupset). Both will get the job done. One thing to look out for with the Giant is the road bike gearing. If you have a lot of hills on your commute and are not quite an established rider, the road bike gearing may be tough to push going uphill. The Trek's have lower, hybrid gearing (in between road and MTB) and will give your legs the chance to work a little less.

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    These bikes are not intended to be ridden on true mountain biking trails. Flat dirt roads should be fine, but that's about it.

    Given that, the gearing on either is fine. Ride them both comparing like bikes; buy the one that feels the best. They are very similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joejack951
    The 7500FX can probably fit a more aggresively treaded tire, like the tires the 7300FX comes with. Regarding what the shop employees have told you about the difference between the two Trek models, they are downright lying. The components on the 7300FX will last as long or longer than those on the 7500FX. What you get by paying more for components is lighter weight and faster shifting. Properly setup, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two unless you had a lot of miles with one of the bikes.

    It's hard to compare Deore (a MTB groupset) with Tiagra (a road bike groupset). Both will get the job done. One thing to look out for with the Giant is the road bike gearing. If you have a lot of hills on your commute and are not quite an established rider, the road bike gearing may be tough to push going uphill. The Trek's have lower, hybrid gearing (in between road and MTB) and will give your legs the chance to work a little less.
    thanks for the insights. actually, the shopowner did tell me the 7300fx would be heavier because of the components. but it was another girl who told me i'd probably have to come back more often for adjustments and such... i've heard the shifting on the 7300fx isn't as *smooth* but what i'm using it for (commuting and occasional wknd biking) isn't something crucial for that matter, right?

    sounds like because it's the MTB groupset, it might be more *rugged* per say, from what i've read on other reviews of it. i suppose i could go with either and be okay. there aren't really any hills on my commute but if i start getting into riding on the wknds, i'm sure i'll run into some hills. in my case, it sounds like my first intuition of getting the 7300fx is starting to confirm itself. any complaints against the 7300fx and inclines?

    i really need to try out the 7300fx before i buy it as well though. out of the 3 stores i've gone to so far, none carry any of them --- it seems like this is harder to come by...

    edit: my coworker was saying that the deore's on the 7500fx are really 'bottom of the line' of the better components to start with. and that the alivios and c-series on the 7300fx aren't really that great. any advice on those components?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jplee3
    thanks for the insights. actually, the shopowner did tell me the 7300fx would be heavier because of the components. but it was another girl who told me i'd probably have to come back more often for adjustments and such... i've heard the shifting on the 7300fx isn't as *smooth* but what i'm using it for (commuting and occasional wknd biking) isn't something crucial for that matter, right?

    sounds like because it's the MTB groupset, it might be more *rugged* per say, from what i've read on other reviews of it. i suppose i could go with either and be okay. there aren't really any hills on my commute but if i start getting into riding on the wknds, i'm sure i'll run into some hills. in my case, it sounds like my first intuition of getting the 7300fx is starting to confirm itself. any complaints against the 7300fx and inclines?

    i really need to try out the 7300fx before i buy it as well though. out of the 3 stores i've gone to so far, none carry any of them --- it seems like this is harder to come by...

    edit: my coworker was saying that the deore's on the 7500fx are really 'bottom of the line' of the better components to start with. and that the alivios and c-series on the 7300fx aren't really that great. any advice on those components?
    My experience with the 7300FX comes through my dad who bought one for daily rides and occasional commuting. He's 63 years old and gets around pretty quick on the bike. I've ridden the bike a few times and did some fine adjusting of the shifting after the LBS where he bought it was unable to get it shifting satisfactorily. With the hi-low stops set correctly and enough cable tension, it shifts flawlessly just not as quick as my Ultegra-equipped road bike. Then again, the 7300FX has an 11-32 rear cluster so you can't expect extremely quick shifting. He does just fine on hills with the gearing and he's 6' and 200 lbs. (but dropping more and down from 230).

    In my experience, even the low end Shimano components found on real brand name bikes (not department store toy bikes) is all good. Even the lowest end stuff will shift properly if adjusted correctly. People who say only a certain groupset and above is worth riding probably only have experience with riding those same groupsets and nothing lower. Or they rode a lower end groupset that wasn't set up properly and based their conclusions on that. I've ridden Alivio (on my Specialized MTB commuter), Sora (low end road group on my Specialized Sequoia) and Ultegra 6600 (2nd from top end road group on my LOOK). I honestly can't complain about how any of the groupsets shifts. Then again, I've put the necessary time in to adjust them all properly.

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    I have a 7500FX that I use for commuting. I like it pretty well, but have had a few problems. Fortunately I have a good shop who has fixed me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLBandit
    I have a 7500FX that I use for commuting. I like it pretty well, but have had a few problems. Fortunately I have a good shop who has fixed me up.
    cool... what kind of problems did you have before? just with adjustments?

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    hey all,
    i just got back from an LBS - i picked up a used '04 7700fx for $500. is that a good deal? when i called them they said they were no longer carrying trek but that they had one more 7700fx left in my size. this was kinda misleading though because they never mentioned that the bike was used (i should have asked, but was assuming that it was new - bad). but if anything, it's been lightly used. i guess the person who owned it works at the store and wasn't there today - she only rode it maybe once a month or every two months to school (about 1 mile from where the shop is located) for the past year or so. so i'm guessing it has less than 100 miles on it. anyway, i checked some of the components on the older 7700fx and they don't seem as good as the newer model. the front derailleur is a nexave and the crankset is a little higher in gears. also, it looks like the seatpost isn't carbon like the new 7700fxes. overall, it seems like it's a good value though for what i paid - any thoughts?

    i paid for it up front and they said they'll clean it up and tune it up as well over the wknd. i'm planning to pick it up either on monday or tuesday (i'll be outta town)
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    I'd say you got an excellent deal. 1 month of riding is nothing. Plus, I'm sure the lbs will stand behind any problems you have--maybe even more. Much better buy than the 7200. Don't worry about components, the 7700 blows away the 7200. Plus, it's probably 2-3 lbs lighter. Nice work.

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    I have a Trek 7700 and love it.
    I use it with 700 x 38 wheels and tires for trails and 700 x 25 wheels and tires for road biking. While it cant keep up with a full road bike, it gets close on the flats.
    Reliability and user friendly components are outstanding. IMHO a fine bike for the money you paid. You do not want to know what I paid.

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