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Old 09-03-05, 02:19 PM   #1
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bike friendly places

Anybody have info on the most bike friendly states, cities, countries...
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Old 09-03-05, 02:22 PM   #2
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Davis, California.

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Kinda ironic -- I see a car parked in the bike lane in the pic of the bike friendly town.
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Old 09-03-05, 04:24 PM   #4
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that's routine in California, bike lanes are where the cars park! If you doubt me come to Palo Alto sometime.
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Old 09-03-05, 04:29 PM   #5
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No, no... you're confused. That's a dual-purpose bike/parking lane. It's all the rage.
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Old 09-03-05, 05:52 PM   #6
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In San Francisco tour busses, 18 wheelers and cops park in the bike lanes.
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Old 09-04-05, 09:49 PM   #7
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Tucson, were we are smart enough to PROHIBIT parking in designated bicycle lanes.
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Old 09-04-05, 09:51 PM   #8
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If you look a little closer at the picture, you can see the white line marking the bike lane is about 6 or 8 feet to the left of the parked car.
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My city has designated bike routes...but I think it just means that there is a sidewalk where bikers can ride. Good enough though!
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Old 09-07-05, 06:43 AM   #10
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Portland, Oregon was voted the most bike friendly town in the US of A by...somebody. I can see why it is, we have bike lanes all over and you get a ticket if you park your car in them...but people still do it. We also have a pretty extinsive bike path system where cars can not go.
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Portland, Oregon was voted the most bike friendly town in the US of A by...somebody. I can see why it is, we have bike lanes all over and you get a ticket if you park your car in them...but people still do it. We also have a pretty extinsive bike path system where cars can not go.
Cyclists also can get tickets if they leave a Portland bike lane.
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Cyclists also can get tickets if they leave a Portland bike lane.
But what if your route to work isn't on the bike lane?
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Old 09-07-05, 06:27 PM   #13
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But what if your route to work isn't on the bike lane?
If there's a bike lane you have to use it. If no lane then you have to stay as close to the shoulder as you can.
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Most of continental Europe -- Germany, Holland, Denmark etc etc.

Mind you I seem to have posted that somewhere very recently before.
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I've only traveled passed Irvine, CA, but I remember Bicycling Magazine named Irving, CA as one of the four best bike friendly towns. From seeing pictures online of the many bikepaths. It looks like it is true. I want to visit it someday.
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So far I have to vote California as the most bike-friendly state, and within California the greater Bay Area the friendliest. And I'll go further and vote the Bay Area as one of the best areas for biking in the world. You can commute, tour, train, there are millions of clubs and and good advocacy groups, I am discovering I have moved to bikie Heaven.
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If there's a bike lane you have to use it. If no lane then you have to stay as close to the shoulder as you can.
And they can ticket you if you dare use the road when there's a bike lane next to the road. If the system is so darned good, why do they have to force cyclists to use it?
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How is obeying the law being "forced?" If I have my own lane I'm going to use it. I'd be stupid not to. Why would I want to ride out with the cars that could kill me?
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How is obeying the law being "forced?" If I have my own lane I'm going to use it. I'd be stupid not to. Why would I want to ride out with the cars that could kill me?
Cars can kill you just as easily in the bike lanes, too.

You might want to leave the lane because you think it's too dirty, but the cop disagrees. You may think you should leave the lane two blocks before a left turn because that's where you find a gap in heavy traffic, but the cops thinks you should wait until the last minute. You may think you need to be six or seven feet from the curb to be seen by cross traffic, to give you room to get around obstacles, and to deter right hooks, but the lane ends at five feet. You might want to leave the bike lane because it crosses an on ramp like a cross walk instead of a traffic lane.

And yes, a law that imposes a ticket if you do something is an attempt to "force" you not to do it. No truly cyclist-friendly town would give cops yet one more reason to ticket cyclists.

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Cyclists also can get tickets if they leave a Portland bike lane.
That doesn't sound very friendly.
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Cars can kill you just as easily in the bike lanes, too.

You might want to leave the lane because you think it's too dirty, but the cop disagrees. You may think you should leave the lane two blocks before a left turn because that's where you find a gap in heavy traffic, but the cops thinks you should wait until the last minute. You may think you need to be six or seven feet from the curb to be seen by cross traffic, to give you room to get around obstacles, and to deter right hooks, but the lane ends at five feet. You might want to leave the bike lane because it crosses an on ramp like a cross walk instead of a traffic lane.

And yes, a law that imposes a ticket if you do something is an attempt to "force" you not to do it. No truly cyclist-friendly town would give cops yet one more reason to ticket cyclists.
When did some one from ohio get to be such and expert on Portland laws...I've been riding around here for years...never got a ticket for anything on my bike. I'm sorry if I offended you with my "most bike friendly" comment. I just read that somewhere. Ok...I was wrong, Portland cops hate bike riders...happy now? sheesh!
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chicago is pretty damn bike friendly.
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When did some one from ohio get to be such and expert on Portland laws...I've been riding around here for years...never got a ticket for anything on my bike. I'm sorry if I offended you with my "most bike friendly" comment. I just read that somewhere. Ok...I was wrong, Portland cops hate bike riders...happy now? sheesh!
There's no offense. I just think it's wrong to say, "we have bike lanes so we're cyclist-friendly." I've followed Portland partly because one of our local self-appointed bike advocates keeps pushing my city to become like Portland. Oregon's bike lane law (which only applies when a local city council has taken a specific step to make it apply) is a very effective argument that Portland isn't cyclist friendly. And even though you haven't been ticketed, in previous threads, I've cited an Oregon Court of Appeals opinion upholding a Portland ticket for daring to ride out side of the bike lane.

How can it be cyclist-friendly to have a law punishing cyclists who decide that the road is a better place?

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There's no offense. I just think it's wrong to say, "we have bike lanes so we're cyclist-friendly." I've followed Portland partly because one of our local self-appointed bike advocates keeps pushing my city to become like Portland. Oregon's bike lane law (which only applies when a local city council has taken a specific step to make it apply) is a very effective argument that Portland isn't cyclist friendly. And even though you haven't been ticketed, in previous threads, I've cited an Oregon Court of Appeals opinion upholding a Portland ticket for daring to ride out side of the bike lane.

How can it be cyclist-friendly to have a law punishing cyclists who decide that the road is a better place?

Didnt't you hear? We live in America, nothing makes sense!
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There's no offense. I just think it's wrong to say, "we have bike lanes so we're cyclist-friendly." I've followed Portland partly because one of our local self-appointed bike advocates keeps pushing my city to become like Portland. Oregon's bike lane law (which only applies when a local city council has taken a specific step to make it apply) is a very effective argument that Portland isn't cyclist friendly. And even though you haven't been ticketed, in previous threads, I've cited an Oregon Court of Appeals opinion upholding a Portland ticket for daring to ride out side of the bike lane.

How can it be cyclist-friendly to have a law punishing cyclists who decide that the road is a better place?
Bike lanes in a city, wherein you can feel fairly and reasonably safe riding in, are better than going 15 rounds with downtown drivers. The city made lanes for cyclists to ride in, so I would consider that a pretty nice gesture. Automobiles have a road to ride on, but I don't see them cutting across someone's lawn because the lane is "inconvenient" for them to continue using.
Just follow the lane law and enjoy the ride.
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