Cold weather tools?
Story: Heading home last night, and I quickly notice that my rear tire flatted over the course of the day. Take the wheel off, get the tire levers out to replace the tube, and SNAP - break one of the levers. No problem, right? I'll just try pumping up the tire and limp home. Pump goes on to the valve stem, and SNAP, pump breaks - and this isn't a Walmart pump either. Too far to walk, so it's time to phone for a ride.
In hindsight, I should have stopped after the first break. I should have taken the hint that plastic left outside all day in -20C (-4F) weather is too brittle to use, but I guess my brain was a bit frozen at that point as well! The question is, was this forseeable? Should I be bringing all my gear inside during these cold Ottawa days or is it a lost cause? Are there tools more suited to cold weather? |
I say CO2 instead of a pump. They drop to -20C from the pressure change anyways.
The loss of digits is not worth $5.00. In general though, winter repairs suck. I can see why a lot of guys here ride the bicycle equivalent of tanks in the winter, although I like to maintain some semblance of performance myself. I carry my tools and pump in the pack. Tools encrusted in ice and road salt aren't the greatest thing either. |
My fingers would have snapped off in -20c
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co2 all the way in winter. I use ambrosio tire leavers. They're wide, flat and strong. Perfect for cold weather.
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Thanks for the tips. I am loath to use CO2, just because of the waste associated with all those spent cartridges. Aside from that, I can understand why it would be quicker and easier.
I'll also look around for those levers. |
The cartridges are aluminum or brass, and can be recycled with other metals.
Like the pile of rusty 7-speed chains in my basment I've been meaning to get rid of. Energy-wise they're about the same manufacturing process as a pop can. Broken pumps end up in landfills. Think of all the medical waste from the hospital if your fingers freeze off (okay, I'm reaching) |
Hmmm....food for thought....
Thanks for the details. |
I will fill my tires with water in when those temperatures hit home
Bumpy, but for sure I will not have any leaks. |
You can get tyre levers with a metal core. Maybe they get less brittle than the plastic ones. I feel a destruction test coming on....
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Our city buses have bike racks, and I always carry bus fare in my seat bag. I've also never had a flat with my Nokian snow tires. Heck, their sidewalls are so stiff I could probably limp home on them with no air.
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Below freezing there are problems with co2 cartridges. They freeze up too much and ice up before the tire is filled. In the cold temperatures they barely fill a tire anyway. It needs to be warm. I have been able to get them to work below freezing by warming up the inflator under my coat (98.6 f ) And then using it quickly, but you don't get enough expansion to fill some tires. It depends on the size of the tire and the size of the cartridge.
That should be the last thing you want below freezing. Careful use of a pump with the nozzle adjusted correctly to be not too tight is what you want. Also practice changing tires in the warm temps until you can do it without tire levers. Have a bike shop show you how to do it. A flat in the cold still rots. Bring the bus fare anyway. I have not had a flat with my Nokians either. I raise the pressure after riding on bumpy ice, to high pressure for the road ride home. Even that is a pain. |
Originally Posted by 2manybikes
That should be the last thing you want below freezing. Careful use of a pump with the nozzle adjusted correctly to be not too tight is what you want. Also practice changing tires in the warm temps until you can do it without tire levers. Have a bike shop show you how to do it.
I will check with the shop anyway. Maybe I don't know as much as I think I do. |
Hmm. I'll try the co2 again at a lower temperature... worked okay for me last time. Is this a 700c or a 26" tire?
As for tire levers, I don't carry them either, but there are some tires that just fit too tight to be removed without levers. I avoid these combinations when possible. But I think that some winter tires tend to have particularly heavy sidewalls, especially the Nokians, and on some rims you'll need levers, and good technique on top of that. I have a Nokian 296 on a Sun Rhinolite that is particularly tough to get off. If that goes flat I'm walking home. |
Do they still sell the QwikStik? That seemed to be made of a more pliant material than standard levers. It would solve one of the problems.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Below freezing there are problems with co2 cartridges. They freeze up too much and ice up before the tire is filled. In the cold temperatures they barely fill a tire anyway. It needs to be warm. I have been able to get them to work below freezing by warming up the inflator under my coat (98.6 f ) And then using it quickly, but you don't get enough expansion to fill some tires. It depends on the size of the tire and the size of the cartridge.
That should be the last thing you want below freezing. Careful use of a pump with the nozzle adjusted correctly to be not too tight is what you want. Also practice changing tires in the warm temps until you can do it without tire levers. Have a bike shop show you how to do it. A flat in the cold still rots. Bring the bus fare anyway. I have not had a flat with my Nokians either. I raise the pressure after riding on bumpy ice, to high pressure for the road ride home. Even that is a pain. The no lever method is really tough in cold weather. One because bare hands are a must and also because the tire warms up during rides making them easier to peel off (a mechanic friend o' mine once took one off in the Nevada desert in like 20 seconds). You're right about the CO2, but in my experience I've gotten enough to ride it out with. Truth is, most of the time when I have a mechanical during winter, I either ride it out or start running. In the time it takes me fumbling around trying to fix it, I could have either returned home or gotten to work. |
When all else fails, use your quick release levers as tire levers.
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Originally Posted by engo
I am loath to use CO2, just because of the waste associated with all those spent cartridges.
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Originally Posted by tokolosh
yeah . . . i dunno. under these circumstances, less or more than the waste of fossil fuels involved in someone coming to give you and your bike a ride? when i think of how much hot water it took to make me normal again after half an hour at -20, i think you could justify it this time around :p
I have three more ideas: The fix-a-flat stuff they use for cars work? You'd have to have either schraeder valves or a schraeder valve adapter. Maybe you'd have to keep the stuff inside between trips, and it might mess up your tire/wheel long-term. But it could get you home safely. 2manybikes has another good point. Pay a lot more attention to your tire pressure (and all other bike maintenance issues) in the winter. That can help prevent you from needing the ideas in this thread.If it's too cold to work outside, bring a lock. Lock up your bike, but take the flat tire with you. Take the bus or get a friend to get you where you are going. Fix the flat where it's warm. Take the bus or get a ride back to your bike. Ride home. (If you are lucky enough to live where the buses have racks, just put the whole bike on the rack.) Bring one of those chemical hand warmers along so you can warm up your hands or equipment as needed. |
The ultimate winter bike repair tool.
CELL PHONE :) don't forget to program in the number for the local cab company. |
Originally Posted by engo
... SNAP - break one of the levers.
Pump goes on to the valve stem, and SNAP, pump breaks.... I bought a Twinhead Floor Pump Upgrade Kit, replaced the hose and in the process, I got a pump that is not only frost-resitant, but also more easily convertible from Presta to Schraeder. The hose itself comes with 3 different fittings that allow it to be installed on a few other pumps including a Topeak floor pump and a Zefal floor pump. |
You could carry titanium tire levers. The two of them weigh less than one plastic one. They are super strong and the design gives more leverage than the other types. They actually work better than all the others. Much easier in the cold. I still vote for the cell phone though.
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I'm afraid I'd damage my rim with metal trie levers. But then again, at zero degrees, it might just be worth the risk.
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I have a set of cheap steel tire levers. I probably got them as part of a patch kit from wally world or something. They work fine. I've never used anything else and haven't damaged anything yet.
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Originally Posted by Daily Commute
I'm afraid I'd damage my rim with metal trie levers. But then again, at zero degrees, it might just be worth the risk.
Anyway, I got some new levers this weekend (park tools), and they seem much more solid than my last ones. I also fixed my pump by cannibalizing an old one for parts (never throw anything away!). As soon as this freezing rain stops, I'm back in business.....as long as it's above -20!!! Thanks all for suggestions and advice. |
Originally Posted by MichaelW
You can get tyre levers with a metal core. Maybe they get less brittle than the plastic ones. I feel a destruction test coming on....
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