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    Im interested on your thoughts about using public transportation. I have seen a few comments in the last week about this issue, a few that hate it, and a few that love it.

    Personally, I think the last time I used public transportation was in highschool, when my car was in the shop, and boy did I hate it! But now, I think things have changed, my current job is from 2:00pm to 10:30pm, I plan on commuting to bike quite often, but work is 25 miles away, and I really don't want to ride in 100F+ degree heat, in the middle of the day. The UTA (utah transit authority, ie, public transportation) bus can pick me up just a few miles from my house, and drop me off just a few feet from work. So I think I will be riding the bus to work, with my bike, and then biking home at night, where I don't need to worry about changing clothes or getting a shower, also it will be a lot better biking for me, no cars, cool fresh air. I think I will really appreciate the UTA bus this summer, I'll be able to read / study on the 40min ride to work, I may even sell my truck and save me $400 a month.

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    Hi Joe,

    I used to cycle to work before this new job. I'm about 15 miles away from work now, but it means cycling into London, then cutting across it..

    They don't have showers either, just a wash basin *which I guess would be alright*. I might cycle in a day a week, if the weather in the UK ever brightens up!!!

    Currently I'm spending £95.00 per month on train travel, which isn't that bad...then walk the rest to work (20 minutes).

    I f I get my act together, it'll mean putting my slicks back on the Trek...hehe, looks a little funny with my suspension forks!!

    take it easy on those roads at night pal!!!

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    Glad you have options Joe. Here in Philly Public Transportation is bad and in the suburbs it is almost non-existant. Not to mention they just raised the fare again making it the highest in the nation.

    Here it seems everyone has a mini-van and an SUV.

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    I use trains a lot at the weekends. I cycle out on a route, and instead of returning by bike, just head for the nearest station (usually within 5 miles). This extends my cycling range quite a bit, and weekend tickets are pretty cheap.
    I go back to my parents house by train, cycling to the station, by rail to London, across London by bike, then by rail again to Norwich, then by bike to their place. Its a great combination.

    If Im feeling bad and its really cold and wet, I take a bus into work, but the walk to the bus stop and a 10 min wait in the cold mean its usually better to walk in the whole way.

    I dont own a car, but rent one as I need to (about 3 or 4 times a year)

    Rich, you ought to look at getting a Brompton folder, for each end of your train journey.

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    Hi Michael,

    Yeah, my boss has one of those...only two problems;

    (a) The bike is for girls...
    (b) My girlfriend would cut my soft and dangleys off if I got another bike...

    Still, it would solve my problem *not the cutting job, the bike!!*

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    I f I get my act together, it'll mean putting my slicks back on the Trek...hehe, looks a little funny with my suspension forks!!
    Rich, if the streets in London and environs are anything like those in Kansas City, suspension forks would be most welcome!

    By the way--what does a part-time vegetarian do the rest of the time?

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    I used public transportation every day for the 2-plus years I didn't commute to work by bike, preceding my retirement in Dec. 1999. Then several times a week. Now with my return to cycling I may use it hardly at all. When I was bike commuting regularly, I hardly ever bought a bus pass, for I found I wasn't using it. Living only with a large cat, I can even do grocery shopping using just the panniers. Or walk to the store and back, which is more usual.

    The thing I hate about public transportation is not the fare, which is reasonable in Kansas City, but the long waits for buses--because there isn't enough demand to finance more frequent runs. And, above all, the rude behavior of other passengers and, increasingly, the drivers themselves. Anybody wanting a lesson in incivility need only board a Kansas City Area Transportation Authority bus.

    After more than thirty years of putting up with this, including 19 years without a car, I have a very pessimistic view of public transportation. The phony ads showing smiling drivers and cherubic passengers that the bus people run here and there, are in the same category with the ones that famous chain of fast-food restaurants runs--how dumb do they think consumers are?

    Uh--don't answer that.

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    Hi Jon,

    I know what you mean about unhappy drivers and passengers...the train ride in the morning into London is pretty hostile...no one looks at one another..they just sit there reading their newspaper or stare out the window..I I had my choice, I really would commute by bike every day...

    Oh a happier note...my part time vegaterianism is linked to my girlfriend...hehe...when I'm at home, I'm a veggi, but when I leave home...Ohhhh baby!!!!!

    How did things pan out with this lady you were going to go cycling with???

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    I use public transportation when I'm not on my bike. I get a subsidised monthly "unlimited use" pass for $30.
    I prefer cycling and walking, but living almost 15 miles from work makes using the train or bus almost unavoidable at least some days, at least until I can cycle everyday without overdoing it. Nevertheless, public transport is o.k. where I live. It's nice not to have to drive.

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    Until last week, I used public transportation every day. Now, I just use it on Thursdays to meet my wife at her work. I ride a mile, get on the bus for the heavy part of the trip, then cyclethe rest of the way to her work. When it rains, I will probably take the bus.

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    Rich--that group ride the young woman told me about is on Mondays, so PROBABLY next Monday I'll go, unless I chicken out.

    JRamsey--I hope the ATA in Kansas City, MO will follow the lead of your Johnson County transit and put bike racks on the buses here. They're talking about it... I'll believe it when I see it. Not sure I'd ever use them, but they ought to have them, and they WOULD get used.

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    I ride the bus M-F to work. I saved up enough for a beater car but Im considering a bike instead. There definately are some rude people on the bus as was mentioned earlier, but I think my biggest complaint would be the 40 minute wait between buses.

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    Our transit system here is really a wanna-be. Busses don't run very often and stop running by 8:00 P.M. Standing in 30+MPH winds in -5F temps waiting for a bus is insane. At least if your riding/walking, your generating some heat.

    Great Falls is not so big that you can't get from one end of town to the other in a reasonable amount of time on your bike. The city is split by the Missourri River and the Sun River. Riding to the bridges can add some pretty good miles to your trip.

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    I live on a bus route used by three different bus routes. One of the routes, the # 410, ends within 4 km of my workplace. And all the buses are equipped with bike racks. So I really do not need to have a car to get to work. I have used the bus on several occasions to get to work combined with my bike on those nastier days otherwise I'll cycle in on the good days (range of 22 km to 26 km depending on which cycle route I use). The other good things about using public transportation combined with cycling is that it only costs me $ 2.00 Canadian one-way, the trip takes as much time as if I were to cycle all the way, I barely break a sweat on the 4k ride to work, and the closest bus stop is a half block from my front door.

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    Public Transit

    My last experience with public transit was back in the early 80's in Portland, OR & it was what eventually got me back into cycling via a $35 Raleigh Sports. Back then Portland had a fleet of articulated buses manufactured in Hungary. Aside from the usual transit negatives like overloading to standing room only, these vehicles were typical products of a failed Socialist economy. Heaters were always on & windows were jammed shut. This produced a steamy, smelly but tolerable envelope in the Winter but became truly intolerable on Hot Summer Days. As I recall there were also issues with the Brakes (leaked fluid, overheated & sometimes burst into flames on hilly routes), Engines that used much more fuel than projected & more frequent repairs required. OTOH, It got me back onto a bicycle for work & school for 3 years. I moved to Vancouver, WA a few years later & rode the Vancouver system into Portland for a couple years & it was somewhat better equipment wise but still had lots of negatives compared to the freedom & flexibility of an Automobile. I also commuted back & forth on weekends between Seattle & Vancouver for about 6 months & found the service so cavalier regarding scheduled arrival & departure that I wouldn't even consider a rail commute if Amtrack was involved. I did ride the MAX light rail for a while in Portland but found Standing room only to be pretty tiresome after being on my feet all day at work. The first several stops downtown filled up the seats pretty fast. Just my 2cents. Don
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    Forgot to mention that my job here in Olympia entitles me to ride the bus free but my commute distance is so short I never considered exercising the option. Don
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    ON average I probably use public transit once a week..Reason I use it...It extends my bike range as mentioned by M.W....Makes a 70 mile round trip easy to do, if you need a quick way home in case your ride takes longer than planned.
    As I mentioned in another thread..I had my first disappointment with biking and public transit..All buses have bike racks...
    Used buses/bike commuting to do some of my Christmas buying two weeks ago. As stated, to cut the mileage and get home earlier i planned to finish the ride with a lift on a public bus..Buses so busy, either they were late or I missed connects...Caused me to abandon the bus and ride home way into the night with only a very dim light.. I have been a big supporter of public buses.This caused me to think you can't rely upon it... By the time I waited for late buses, I could have been home..But you do not always realize that when one missed bus leads to another.
    Still A positive. Got my wife something she wanted from a speciality shop about 40 miles away from home..If didn't bike and had to drive, probably would have not gone in that direction and she would have not gotten a gift that she appreciated. Gave me more experience as a night rider even if I thought I was going to freeze. Just because dim lights are unsafe, so what. Still a big supporter of public transit, even if now less trusting of their reliability.

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    It's basically anything but the car when I travel in town. For some destinations, the car is simply too cumbersome, too unpractical (takes more time to warm cool... then to ride), too expensive to park, too slow...

    So basically, it's either walking short distances or cycling longer ones. I use public transit -- especially with the children -- when the weather is messy. I enjoy foul-weather cycling, but my daughters (7.5 and 3.5) don't enjoy cold rain as much.They love cycling in the snow, however... especially as we pass most cars.

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    Public transport here is a bad joke played by the city fathers to salve their guilty souls and qualify federal money. Poor shcedules, worse routes, and no place to shelter from the weather.

    I have visited areas where there was good public transport and used it. Plus, little beats the New Orleans street cars for fun public transport.
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    Folks. This thread goes to show you the state of public transportation around the world. I forgot the numbers exactly, but the U.S. funds highway construction about six times more than they spend on public transport.

    If you don't live in Boston, New York or Chicago, you basically have poor public transportation. These older cities were the first to establish subways, elevated railroads, trolleys and buses before the century. Most cities that developed after the fall of the railroads basically built highways while pushing public transport as an afterthought. I can assure you, they will later regret this highway centric system.

    The bus in my opinion is the slowest and worse form of transportation ever designed. The subway, heavy rail and Light rail (Trolley, Tram) are the best but most expensive systems and only available in seveal cities. Other European cities like London and Germany didn't dismantle their rail systems which explains why they have good transportation.

    I use public transport every day of the week. They recently constructed a 1.4 billion dollar light rail just five blocks away from my house. We cruise at 50 mph at some points and when I arrive in Manhattan, there are hundreds of miles of subways at my disposal. My total transportation cost per month is $86.00 dollars! In other words, my total transportation cost per year is just over $1,000.00 USD! Folks, My nephew who's attending college spends over three thousand on car insurance alone!

    As you can imagine, I've been able to save a ton of money not having to pay for auto insurance, gas, tolls, tickets and repairs. My car used to be the biggest drain on my finances and now that its gone, I've been able to pay off all my credit cards and school loans. The money that I'm saving from not having to own a car and using a bicycle during the weekends is incredible. Without a doubt, the decision to become car free was the best I've made in years.
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    I use the bus on occasion. One of the main problems here is that the Richmond metro area has three jurisdictions, Richmond city, Henrico county, and Chesterfield county. Chesterfield has refused to allow the busses to run into their county, largely for (unstated, but there) racial reasons, the great bugaboo of the fine city of Richmond. But that's waht you get when people still worship dead confederate generals, talk about "the war of northern aggression" as if it happened last week, and have a conniption about a statue of Honest Abe or Arthur Ashe being erected in town. Gah. I love this place, but some people here haven't had their two brain cells bounce off each other in a long, long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poguemahone
    I use the bus on occasion. One of the main problems here is that the Richmond metro area has three jurisdictions, Richmond city, Henrico county, and Chesterfield county. Chesterfield has refused to allow the busses to run into their county, largely for (unstated, but there) racial reasons, the great bugaboo of the fine city of Richmond. But that's waht you get when people still worship dead confederate generals, talk about "the war of northern aggression" as if it happened last week, and have a conniption about a statue of Honest Abe or Arthur Ashe being erected in town. Gah. I love this place, but some people here haven't had their two brain cells bounce off each other in a long, long time.
    Ahhhh, that sounds like the fine city I once loved and finally left.

    I do, however, kinda miss the trees and hills in richmond. But I do not miss living in SHort Pump Have you seen that new Downtown Short Pump place? Makes me sick to my stomach!

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    I am still working out the details of commuting in winter regularly, so currently I take the bus at least twice per day.

    Public transportation here is quite good. I pay 65 euros per month for an all-inclusive travelcard and I could get the cost down to less than 2 euros per day if I bought longer periods. None of our buses have bike racks, but you may be able to talk your bike inside during off-peak hours, as every bus has space for at least 2 child trolleys.

    The bus is also the fastest form of transportation for me. My commute takes about 30 mins one way with the bus, 30-40 minutes on the bike, and maybe 1 hour with a car (during peak hours). And that is excluding the time I would spend trying to find a parking space.

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    >>>>None of our buses have bike racks, but you may be able to talk your bike inside during off-peak hours, as every bus has space for at least 2 child trolleys.<<<<

    A folding bike would be perfect for these buses. I would really look into getting one and buy a bag so it won't look like a bicycle.

    The other day, my next door neighbors drove their car to the supermarket which is just across the street or about 500 feet! The U.S. is so car cultured that people would rather drive across the street rather than walk to the market!

    We have excellant public transportation with 15 buses that transverse our city including a lightrail that cost the state over a billion dollars yet families still have one or two cars!

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    Hopeless public transportation in Denver. I've been here almost 2 years and never been able to use any buses/trains other than the free mall bus. They're building a new light rail station just down the road from us which will help my wife to get up to town and me to get down to Englewood for work. I can't see it opening for about another 12 months, though.

    I grew up using public transportation for almost everything, so this has been a real culture shock.

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