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    RAGBRAI. Need I say more? Steele-Bike's Avatar
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    I have had trouble convincing my boss to allow me to bring my bike into the office. I don't like leaving it out in the elements, but I have no choice. There is plenty of space in the office to keep the bike, but the boss just doesn't understand where I am coming from. Anyone with similar experiences?

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    I know you asked for similar experiences, which you'll get plenty of. But my experience is that I never have a problem bringing the bike indoors with me at work. I keep it in a paper storage area.

    I love it because I know it will be safe there.

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    I work for a large corporation and have heard the excuse, "If we let one person bring their bike in, then everyone will want to." Let it be noted that I am one of handfull of bike commuters out of workforce of 1000.

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    Steele-Bike,

    I have that same dilemma. Not only does my firm NOT
    allow bikes, but the building itself doesn't allow them. They claim that if I'm allowed, then all the messengers in NYC can bring their bikes into the building. I am more than willing to carry my bike and take the freight elevator, but there is no solution other than commuting to work by taking a VERY crowded bus and two 'sardine-like' crowded subway lines to work everyday.

    I get to work exhausted just from the 'rat race' of commuting! At least biking to work would make everything so much better, just read Pete's messages!

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    Marcy, it sounds to me like they just don't want to cooperate. They could allow people who work in the building to bring bikes in, and prevent messengers from doing the same (if that's really necessary). A little stick-on decal, or just any kind of "I work here" ID--what would be so hard about that?

    I was riding home one night in downtown KC and happened to ride alongside a commuter who was on his way to work at a bank, night-shift. I asked if he was able to take his bike inside with him, and he said at first they said no, but after extensive negotiations and persuading he got the OK.

    I wonder sometimes if people think bikes drip oil and transmission fluid and--I don't know--easy-listening soundtracks, vinyl shavings, whatever it is cars emit all the time besides their poisonous exhaust--and really have no idea how CLEAN even a rain-wet bike is.

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    Maybe you could counter that "If you do it everyone else will...." excuse by pointing out the fact that if everyone else DID bike to work, how much healthier they would be, the less sick leave etc.,etc., etc.

    It's tough to change someones mindset, and a lot of managers just take the easy way out, that being "No!". Possibly even going up the ladder to someone higher, tactfully of course, might be the answer.
    "...perhaps the world needs a little more Canada" - Jean Chretian, 2003.

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    I recently had this discussion with the Office Manager or whatever-title-he-is-this-week person, and I had locked my bike up temporarily in the patio area at my company.

    He said someone had mentioned that my bike is an "eye sore". I asked him who it was...he had no answers with my inquiries, or why they would say that.

    I usually park it in the storage area of the warehouse, but sometimes it's difficult to find someone to lock up the gate or get it out when it's time to come home.

    Most people are supportive of my riding at work, but there are those people who just can't understand, and feel that you're some freak. (I just figure these people lead really boring lives, and would rather put people who are "different" under their microscope than remind themselves that their lives are just a really bad caricature.)

    Anyway, the good news, hopefully, is that I've switched departments and my boss there said he wouldn't mind having my bike next to my desk. My previous wouldn't allow me to bring in my bike. The only catch is, I know that the StormTroopers(aka security--"Star Wars" reference folks) might have a problem with that... However, my contingency plan is to store it in the server room, once I get access to that area.

    Also, there's this "Bike to Work Day" that I want to have the company write up something on their propaganda newsletter, just to promote the whole bike riding thing at work. Okay, it might not convert a whole lot of riders, but even if we can get another rider amongst our midsts, why the hell not? :thumbup:
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    Originally posted by Steele-Bike
    I work for a large corporation and have heard the excuse, "If we let one person bring their bike in, then everyone will want to." Let it be noted that I am one of handfull of bike commuters out of workforce of 1000.
    And let it be noted by your employer that every new bike commuter frees up a parking space. If "everyone will want to" bring their bike in, imagine how much more parking space that will mean.

    And, looky-here, Ms. Sussette (aka "Techno-warrior"),
    you go, girl! Jus' smoothly play that "Bike-to-Work-enviro-green-thing-politically-cutting-edge" card for all it's worth. EVERYONE cares about image, and you may be your company's next "Employee in the Spotlight: People Who Bike to Work." Your former boss may wish he still had you around to make him look GOOD!!!!!!!!!

    :thumbup, babe!:

    YEAH!
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    My boss won't let me bring my bike in to the office building, AND I'M MARRIED TO HIS DAUGHTER! Well, I haven't really asked, but I'm sure he would say no. I really have nothing to complain about. I have a window office that shows the patio where I keep my bike. I keep my bike right outside my window, and I usually don't even lock my bike.

    BTW, I have a Serpas body geometry saddle that wasn't extremely expensive, but I like it a lot. Should I put something on the seat while my bike sits in the baking sun as to not discolor or crack the cover over time?
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    Well here is my story to add to the pile
    I am currently in the process of switching jobs

    One week ago i had an interview with a company and when it came time for the old "Well is there anything you would like to ask us" I asked about riding my bike to work and the storage of it

    Well surprise surprise they were very open to this after toalking to the head guy the human resources lady leading the interview said they would be more then glad to arrange for a bike rack to be installed

    I mentioned that i have a high end bike and would feel better about it being inside she then left again to talk to the head guy and came back and assured me that it would be no problem at all

    This made me very happy since this is the first job i will have since i began riding that i can actually ride to everyday

    So dont dismay if your company doesnt care about your health maybe its best to find one that does

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    living on an island where cycling is considered strictly recreational it was very difficult for me at first. I started out with everyone thinking I'm crazy, one of my bosses came up to me complaining the bike's an 'eyesore' as well. Well, I kept doing it, (initially they thought it would be a passing phase and I'll quit when bad weather starts - but I carried on coming. Month after month, when I started loosing weight, looking much healthier, more productive and more cheerfull, I was approached by another two employees who wanted to start commuting by bike, on of which is now a regular like I am. Slowly slowly the attitude started changing, my boss started to get interested - he also bought a bike (only for weekends however). I was also authorised to install a bike rack in the company's grounds - out of my pocket, but still much better than not being allowed in at all.

    My suggestion is - give it time - show that cycling to work is important to you and that it makes you more productive and cheerful. Don't try to convince the people around you by explaining things - they wouldn't understand - instead - try to get them interested in what you do my showing them the end results. (For example - walk in really cheerfully on rainy days - give everybody a smile - and show you're already up and alert ready to face the day, rather than the other slobs who can't remember their drive to work. Occasionaly 'joke' about how you're saving the air for their kids...it works)

    Things might slowly change - just never ever give up.

    claude

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    Originally posted by claude
    ...living on an island where cycling is considered strictly recreational it was very difficult for me at first. I started out with everyone thinking I'm crazy...Month after month, when I started loosing weight, looking much healthier, more productive and more cheerfull...my boss started to get interested - he also bought a bike...get them interested in what you do by showing them the end results...Things might slowly change - just never ever give up.

    claude
    I really love Claude's attitude. Instead of letting everyone else, who doesn't understand what you're doing, bring you down, stand tall and pursue excellence in what you do (cycling, in this case). If you don't give up, others will
    see you profiting from it and will want what you've got. Instead of letting others change you, let your steadfastness change them. After all, we're doing something very good...why quit?

    Claude is not the only one who has discovered this "power." I found that others where I work are really impressed with what cycling to work has done for me, even though before they thought I was weird. I never cease to get a positive mention from somebody, and it is often about my good health. I hope I am influencing others by my lifestyle, if not my words.

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    I really love Claude's attitude. Instead of letting everyone else, who doesn't understand what you're doing, bring
    you down, stand tall and pursue excellence in what you do (cycling, in this case). If you don't give up, others will
    see you profiting from it and will want what you've got. Instead of letting others change you, let your steadfastness
    change them. After all, we're doing something very good...why quit?

    Here!, here!!

    I'm quite lucky, three out of the 7 people in our building cycle to work....so we're quite a force...maybe a good idea is to get to know the other cyclists in your work place and get together a petition asking for more bike friendly spaces...as Pete says, companies are image concsious, so why not give it a go!!

    :thumbup:
    Making New Zealand a safer place :)

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    The one thing that bothers me about biking to work is the glares I get when I walk inside sweating and rosy cheeked. Due to my younger age (28), I feel as if my co-workers think that I just can't afford a car or I am just some wacky kid that hasn't discovered the usefulness of the automobile. I have not owned a car since college and I still have no desire to have one. As the saying goes, "When the people lead, the leaders will follow." I think this fits well into the scenario of bicycle commuting.

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    Steele-Bike,

    Different ideas sometimes cause unwarranted hostility due to ignorance. But as you pointed out (indirectly), what if everyone with a good idea waited until someone else did it first? We'd still be carving wood with rocks.

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    I must be the luckiest guy here. I can stash my bike in a spare office that we use for the water cooler and coat room. Needless to say, I'm there all the time to fill up my water glass, and say hi to the bike.

    I also have a shower next to my office, and a closet to keep my suit in. I arrive about 45 minutes before anyone else in the office, and few people even know that I ride.
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    Steele Bike,

    I still drive (when I have to) the same POS truck that I drove when I was in college. I'm 28, and I actually enjoy the looks I get from co-workers who think I'm crazy when I show up everyday on my bike. If you are willing to show up to work after at least a glistening sweat that could cause you to stink, you shouldn't worry about people thinking you are too poor to own a car.
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    Thanks, Pete and everyone here that's given encouragement and feedback on bikes at work. I hit up the President's secretary to include the "Bike to Work" article in the next version of the newsletter. I told her that it would promote our company in a more positive light, and that it would help a more pollution-free environment, not to mention more healthy employees.

    She mentioned that she would have the President look over it, and if it didn't make it into the newsletter, she would send an email to our corporate office about the Bike to Work Week regardless.

    Wow, didn't expect that response, but I guess the next thing is to sell it to HR, and hope they don't prohibit me from posting stuff in our Break Room. (Okay, so I'll put it in the break room anyway...)

    Yikes! I really don't hope I make it as "Employee in the Spotlight"...I might have to pass this idea on someone else, so they get the credit.

    Yeah, I get those weird stares as well, Steele-Bike, but I find it quite funny. I just wave and say "hi"...don't worry about your co-workers think. They all think I'm some wacky kid anyway. (Mind you, I'm not a wacky kid, I just play one in real life.)
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    Originally posted by technogirl
    Thanks...everyone here that's given encouragement and feedback on bikes at work. I hit up the President's secretary to include the "Bike to Work" article in the next version of the newsletter. I told her that it would promote our company in a more positive light, and that it would help a more pollution-free environment, not to mention more healthy employees.
    Remember, entire cities are "under the spotlight" of the federal government, who is checking to see who is meeting clean air standards and who isn't. This may seem meaningless to some, but Atlanta has lost federal highway money already. Believe me, you may seem unusual to them privately, but publicly you are their best advertisement. Wouldn't you look great, smiling on the cover of some magazine with your company's name (and your bike) for everyone to see? Could make money for them in promotional gimmicks. Hey, if Wheaties can use Michael Jordan, well...
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