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    Urban Biker jimmuter's Avatar
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    Breakin' the law

    This morning I was running late (as usual) and traffic was heavier than usual. I get about half way to work and there is a school bus stopped with its red lights going and stop sign out. I almost always stop at the top of this hill anyway because there is a light at the dead bottom of the hill. I wait to make sure I catch it green. Well, this bus sits there and sits there. I try to be a good law abiding biker, but I'm late and the light has already cycled once. I see two kids walk out of a nearby housing complex and board the bus. Still it sits there, I guess waiting for other kids to come out. I put both feet on the ground and slowly rolled by the bus so I could catch the next green light. I only felt mildly guilty.

    I hate to sound like an old fogey, but in my day, we had to wait outside for the bus. If we weren't there, we got left behind. As a matter of fact, that's how I really got into biking in the first place. I missed the bus a lot.

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    You have my sympathy.

    If it were me, I would have picked up the bike, gotten out of the street and walked past the bus, and then been in the clear legally.

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    Yea...don't mess with school buses...that's bad juju

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    I hope they didn't get your plate number.

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    I think you would be in the clear if you walked the bike past the bus. I can't imagine anyone giving you a ticket even if you rode by, but it never hurts to be on the safe side.

    I agree with you on waiting for the bus outside. There is a school bus stop across the street from my house and the bus routinely sits there for up to 10 minutes as the high school students filter down the street to get on. Some lesson we're teaching them about being on time and planning appropriately so they can catch the bus!
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    I was once passed by a school bus with the stopsign out and the lights flashing.

    You read that right. And that was in my car. I wonder if I could get busted for that.

    They really need to retrain some of the school bus drivers around here. The whole objective of safety for kids seems a bit lost in the mayhem.

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    that's wacked

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    Been listening to a little too much priest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slvoid
    Been listening to a little too much priest?
    Not lately, though I did have the Beavis and Butthead rendition running through my head when I wrote the title.

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    I would have ridden by slowly...probably on the oposite side of the road...maybe on the sidewalk...

    Hey, the intent of the law in this case is to prevent kids from being run down.

    The only problem with passing on the left would be that Murphy's law would call for the bus driver to pull in the sign and start rolling right as you are about to clear his front left fender.

    Now that you've put this in my head, I'll be standing there in indecision when it happens to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuter
    I hate to sound like an old fogey, but in my day, we had to wait outside for the bus. If we weren't there, we got left behind. As a matter of fact, that's how I really got into biking in the first place. I missed the bus a lot.
    In my day we learned to read a clock and left on time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandregg
    In my day we learned to read a clock and left on time.
    Ouch. Slammed by a fellow Durhamite. That hurts. Look, I'm always late, always have been, always will be. I can read a clock, I just choose to ignore it.

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    Yeah, WTF? I waited outside for the school bus, dang it. Kids these days! (I mean it)

    It's possible, though, that the bus is on a schedule and was early.
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    I would walk, or use the opposite side sidewalk.
    Bring the pain.

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    I was once in a situation like this where the bus driver pointed at me, then waved me on (there were no other vehicles.) He probably broke the rules and would get in trouble for doing it, but it was a kind gesture and I waved back.

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    I put both feet on the ground and slowly rolled by the bus so I could catch the next green light. I only felt mildly guilty.
    Guilty? why on earth guilty? If i'm interpreting you correctly you walked your bike past the bus?

    Pedestrians (even those with bikes in hand) can walk circles around a bus with flashing lights if they darn well please.

    Personally, I would probably ride slowly past the bus. Like wmgardner facetiously pointed out-- they can't get my plate number if I don't have a license plate.
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    breakin the law breakin the law

    If the lights red, no traffic, no police I run it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkott3r
    breakin the law breakin the law

    If the lights red, no traffic, no police I run it

    Me too..on the bike, of course...

    sometimes you gotta watch where you are, some places are easier on bikers than others.......

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    No guilt--that's one of the beauties of owning a bike. I'll jump to the sidewalk occasionally if the road presents a slow or dangerous situation. It is rare when I do it, but fine, I think.

    There are traffic laws that are meant primarily for cars. You pose much less danger to those kids. Walking your 30 pound bike is a reasonable solution.
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    the OP seems a bit strange from the european point of view as here it is perfectly legal to drive past a stationary school bus- no partcular need even to slow down in a car- so feeling guilty for just tippy toeing past on a bike is quite funny
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    I don't do sidewalks. It only takes one elder or child to come out of a doorway and BAM!!!!! Try explaining that to the police. Oh the guilt! I agree about the lights though, red is merely a friendly suggestion to just be a wee bit more careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royalflash
    the OP seems a bit strange from the european point of view as here it is perfectly legal to drive past a stationary school bus- no partcular need even to slow down in a car- so feeling guilty for just tippy toeing past on a bike is quite funny
    It's a VERY big deal here. If a school bus is stopped and has its red lights flashing, traffic must stop.
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    The houses around here are about 40 feet back from the sidewalks, so I'm not putting anyone in danger.
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    I try to follow the rules - the law - common courtesy. What gets my goat is that sometimes it seems like I'm the only one. I guess I need to start running the occasional stop sign to make myself feel better...

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    I've dismounted and walked past busses. That's one of the great things about cycling. We can instantly become pedestrians if it's more convenient. I think that's part of the reason the cagers hate and envy us.

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