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    Would 3 Stems Mean Im A Technogeek??

    good afternoon,

    I have a Surly cross check that I built last spring as a commute beast.

    Im re-doing my bars and shifters and im adding a Real handlebar bag , I also did a home brew light set up that works great.

    I have the lights on the fork blades right now but they get in the way and get filthy in crappy weather not to mention look strange.

    I was thinking of taking the lights off untill next fall unless I could mount them in a nicer location.


    Im one of those folks with a long torso and this combined with the High Bottom bracket on the cross check gives me a very large 5.5 " +- worth of stack height. dang 700C wheels!!



    so I was thinking Why not 3 stems vs all them spacers? I do believe I have the "Space"

    TOP STEM: my bars, emergency light mount(small LED) ,My hands ,computer (someday maybe)

    NEXT STEM DOWN: Ortlieb handle bar bag .

    LAST STEM DOWN: Both my MR16 Lights (nice and out of the way) and streamed line enough to leave them on the bike even though I wont need them untill fall.

    An Inquiering mind would like to know?

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    Dunno. I have one of those T-shaped thingies to hold my lights... Because my "flat" handlebars are curved enough that the lights wouldn't point straight, and I really didn't have enough room anyway. So I clamped the t-bar on straight and mounted both lights to it. So my bike is pretty geeky too I guess .
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    Three questions for you:
    You mean stack the stems one on top of another?
    If your torso is that long, why didn't you get a bigger frame?
    What is your height vs. inseam vs. frame size?
    Not h8n, just asking...
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    im using a 50cm cross check (picked out by LBS) my inseam is 30, I would have liked a larger frame but the standover height would be to high.

    my bars are level with the seat, Brooks sprung B17 (that adds height too) im 5'10"

    Thanks for the reply

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    You might be leaning toward getting a free membership card to the Geeks' Cycling Club .

    I say go for it, the setup on my 1983 Austro-Daimler mixte goes like this:

    Mini-bmx handlebars mounted by the top crossbar to the stem.
    A pair of drop bars are fashioned onto the side pipes of the bmx bars with long bar-ends.
    And finally, aerobars mounted onto the top crossbar.

    My headlight is mounted on the bottom crossbar, where the bars are meant to be attached to the stem.
    My top mount shifters are down on the "drops" and my cyclometer, with night light, is on a swingbar mounted to the stem.

    I got my membership card as soon as I put baskets on my other bike, (and thought they looked cool).
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Geeky? Definitely, but hey it's a commuter bike. A little geekiness is part of the fun.

    I take it you've seen this then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon

    I take it you've seen this then?
    I had seen that before and I remember thinking "That's a need for dental reconstruction just waiting to happen."
    ...take your protein pills and put your helmet on...
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    nOT IN PERSON,

    No dought Sheldon is a card carrying member.

    Go for it I may, If I have the space , It should be close but if it works it will solve a few problems.

    My stack height gets lots of weird looks but thats what it is, My bars are level with the seat.

    Like one mech at the LBS says cross check is a good but strange frame (he rides one too)

    The Technogeek commuter club . Our motto can be somthing like dont laugh it works...???

    "John"
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    Pictures, where are the pictures!
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    i believe so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jur
    Pictures, where are the pictures!
    I'll try to get some pictures of mine at lunch.
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    I have two...

    Don't have a handle bar bag yet, but I don't think I'd need a third to fit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDL
    I had seen that before and I remember thinking "That's a need for dental reconstruction just waiting to happen."
    Why would you say that?
    Surely you realise that it's in no way different from having just a single handle bar at the same level as the upper on that bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf
    I have two...
    That's a pretty groovy setup.

    What goes on the empty clip, (just to the left of the stem)?
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jur
    Pictures, where are the pictures!
    Okay, here they are. I realize that due to all of my "accessories", it's hard to make out exactly how this is all set up. So I made a couple of line drawings that should clear up any confusion.

    Whole bike
    From the back
    From the front

    Here are the illustrations. At the risk of pointing out the obvious, here's a little legend:

    Red=BMX mini bars (pulled off my son's old toddler bike, from when he was 3 yrs old).
    Blue=Aerobars
    Yellow=Long bar ends as drops
    Green=Minoura Swingbar
    Everything else=frame & stem

    Full frontal
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    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf
    I have two...

    Don't have a handle bar bag yet, but I don't think I'd need a third to fit it.

    Guess you never ride on the tops of the hoods eh?

    Funny thing is I saw some brake handles that would work well with your setup... they had other cables that went to smaller brake levers for the flat bars. So you can have your drop brakes and flat bar brakes too.

    Sorry, don't recall the brand.

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    I dunno why people like to turn commuter bicycles into bristling christmas trees. There seems to be some unconcious desire for commuters to strap everything possible onto their bicycles.

    I have exactly two things mounted on my handlebars: a triple-wireless Polar HRM/computer with cadence, and a Light&Motion HID light head. The battery is mounted to the downtube immediately above the bottom bracket, and just below a water bottle. The wire is secured with velcro cable fasteners. I have standard drop bars. I prefer as little mass as possible connected to my steering mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroot
    I dunno why people like to turn commuter bicycles into bristling christmas trees. There seems to be some unconcious desire for commuters to strap everything possible onto their bicycles.
    ...
    I think maybe the name of this thread kind of covered it.

    We're geeks!

    But hey, I gotta have my bell. I gotta have my cyclometer with its light. I gotta have my headlight and reflectors. And I gotta have my radio. (Of course, when I say "gotta have," it means I prefer having them).

    As for my over-the-top handlebars, regardless of how I'm feeling or what the weather/terrain have in store, I can find a comfortable position to put my hands, (thus my body). I don't have a love of suffering, like some cyclist do.

    I have three other bikes at home. One with a straight MTB bar, one with standard drops and one with comfort bars. I have spent considerable time on each of them and can tell you that my commuter wins, hands down for doing any extended riding.

    It's all about making the bike function and feel the way you want it. Minimalism works for some, but not others.
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Thats pathetic, theres no sink for washing your hands after changing a flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gear
    Thats pathetic, theres no sink for washing your hands after changing a flat.


    Good one!
    That's gonna leave a mark.

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    Well, two stems are enough for me ! Photos here.

    Basically, the lower stem holds a short tube (actually an old cut-off handlebar) onto which I install the handlebar bag. On the top stem, I have:
    - the handlebars (that's obvious!);
    - the cyclocomputer, and on the bike that visits Ontario, a bell underneath the cyclocomputer;
    - at night one small LED headlight.

    My main headlights are generator driven; one is mounted on the fork crow and the other just beside it.
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