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    Very long commute: week 11

    Ole ole - ole ole / Ole ole - ole ole

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    Me mind on fire -- Me soul on fire -- Feeling hot hot hot
    Party people -- All around me feeling hot hot hot

    Any tips and tricks for riding when it's hot hot hot? I'm thinking that our friends from down under will be especially helpful with this.
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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    Mars did you go and get a case of heat stroke?

    Just ride naked. with a ice water misting systems.

    But really, a Camelbaks with half frozen water will cool the blood moving up and down the spin. Thus cool the core body temp. Also a personal misting system (pump type) works well at cooling the skin. Or you can do what I do, just ride through puddles and let your wheel be your misting system. also check out the cooling bandanas like this http://www.brandsonsale.com/coba.html.
    May your feet keep move'n with the wind to your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CigTech
    Mars did you go and get a case of heat stroke?

    Just ride naked. with a ice water misting systems.

    But really, a Camelbaks with half frozen water will cool the blood moving up and down the spin. Thus cool the core body temp. Also a personal misting system (pump type) works well at cooling the skin. Or you can do what I do, just ride through puddles and let your wheel be your misting system. also check out the cooling bandanas like this http://www.brandsonsale.com/coba.html.

    Whoa, awesome tips, CigTech!! My tips, wear bike specific clothing. It's made to wick moisture and breath. I have a Giro Atmos helmet that I have found really helps keep my head cool. It has a lot of vents... in fact it seems like I am cooler with the helmet than without it.
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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    Our hottest day last year was about 45 celcius (bloody hot farenheit). The best way to cool down was to wear the right stuff - a la Mars, and to make sure your water bottles (3 at least) are mostly frozen before you leave, you can comfortably drink them after 20 mins and you can pour it into your helmet to cool you off. Otherwise, its a case of having a cool shower before you leave home or work and then stopping in the shade if you feel that light headed, 'i don't know why i feel this way' sorta feeling.

    I find that the best way to cool down in summer is to wear singlets (sleaveless tops) but some people can't bring themselves to do that.

    Now, how do i deal with this bloody cold? And how do i get the funds to get me some cycling shoes and fenders? Anybody?

    Have a good week people.

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    45 celsius!!! OMG!!
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars
    Any tips and tricks for riding when it's hot hot hot? I'm thinking that our friends from down under will be especially helpful with this.
    I try to drink one large water bottle an hour. It is also important to replace your electrolytes, I use Endurolytes and Antifatigue caps from www.e-caps.com

    Remember that if you drink too much water and do not replace your electroluytes you can become hyponatremic. Hyponatremia or water intoxication is a very dangerous condition, which is can be caused by drinking too much water in a short amount of time. What happens is the water dilutes the salt (sodium) content of your blood. If you ingest a lot of water you need to introduce electrolytes. I can give more information if people are interested.

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    Totally rocking the recumbent lately! My commute in the summer is 19 miles one way. For the past couple of weeks, I have made every trip in under an hour. I'm just in this pedal pushing groove and eat up the miles! Woohoo!
    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

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    Holy crap! Good speed on that recumbent Mars. I'm back from the little bike race - what a blast. I was following a guy on a recumbent for a while. I ended up overdoing it though and had some major calf problems. They were seizing up and spasming like crazy!! Then they were swollen and sore for three days. Now, I can get back on the bike! I am SERIOUSLY wanting a NEW BIKE after that race though. I realized I really slog on the uphills on my bike.

    45C gusboh! Whoa! Dealing with the heat isn't really an issue here - it's rarely too hot to ride. I empathize with you guys who do have that killer heat though - it really sucks the energy out of you. We had a few hot days last week (that's about 30C) and riding in that just sapped me.

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    Talking about hot, It's hitting 91 deg with 65% humidity today. But I still got a good ride this morning in at 4:30 AM. It was only 78% with 75% humidity. Had a ARTS of 20.45.

    Oh have you guy's hard of a Overtraining thing. I went to the Doc and he said I was overtraining. and wanted me to take a 4 week break from the bike. I told him I'd slow down a bit and get more sleep. But I am having a hard time slowing down. The sleep is not a problem. any ways, I need to get in the race to replace Lance and I'll need to be in top from to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CigTech
    Oh have you guy's hard of a Overtraining thing. I went to the Doc and he said I was overtraining. and wanted me to take a 4 week break from the bike. I told him I'd slow down a bit and get more sleep. But I am having a hard time slowing down. The sleep is not a problem. any ways, I need to get in the race to replace Lance and I'll need to be in top from to do that.
    I recommend you take a look at Chris Carmicheal's book. He's the guy who is Lance's trainer. He talks a lot about how to pace your training to avoid injuries (like you probably have) and to maximize performance. It's important, especially after age 40, to balance days where you ride hard with days that you ride slow or not at all. This gives your body a chance to recover from the stresses imposed by hard exertion. When you ride hard, you tear and damage your muscles and connecitve tissue. The rest/easy ride days give your bodya chance to heal. Your gonzo riding style can't be sustained indefiitely without consequences.

    That being said, I would seek a second opinion about the 4 weeks off. Unless you have torn a ligament or tendon, why so long off the bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_chick
    Holy crap! Good speed on that recumbent Mars. I'm back from the little bike race - what a blast. I was following a guy on a recumbent for a while. I ended up overdoing it though and had some major calf problems. They were seizing up and spasming like crazy!! Then they were swollen and sore for three days. Now, I can get back on the bike! I am SERIOUSLY wanting a NEW BIKE after that race though. I realized I really slog on the uphills on my bike..
    I nearly had to eat my word today on the way home. I stayed a little too late a work and was running behind to catch my ferry. I had jut under an hour to get there. No problem, I thought, until I felt the headwind

    Well, I made it with 2 minutes to spare, but I was a hurting dog. I had to ride like a demon to make it on time.

    mtn_chick, you totally should get a new bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars
    Any tips and tricks for riding when it's hot hot hot? I'm thinking that our friends from down under will be especially helpful with this.
    Sunscreen - don't forget the sunscreen!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars
    I nearly had to eat my word today on the way home. I stayed a little too late a work and was running behind to catch my ferry. I had jut under an hour to get there. No problem, I thought, until I felt the headwind

    Well, I made it with 2 minutes to spare, but I was a hurting dog. I had to ride like a demon to make it on time.

    mtn_chick, you totally should get a new bike.
    Oh, I hate those rides where you're totally cutting it short to get somewhere on time. Too much stress!

    I agree about the 4 weeks off for CigTech. That seems a bit over-the-top! You can definitely overdo things - it just seems odd, a dr. telling you to NOT exercise for a month.

    And hell yeah Mars! I'm working towards that new bike right now! I just think, if I have this much fun on my heavy beast of a bike, I can't even imagine how much more enjoyable commuting would be on a better, lighter bike!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CigTech
    Oh have you guy's hard of a Overtraining thing. I went to the Doc and he said I was overtraining. and wanted me to take a 4 week break from the bike. I told him I'd slow down a bit and get more sleep. But I am having a hard time slowing down. The sleep is not a problem. any ways, I need to get in the race to replace Lance and I'll need to be in top from to do that.
    I'd be very carefull about the overtraining. I was a competitive rower while in college, and at one point in my 2nd year I had to throttle it back because of overtraining. I was forced into taking 2 weeks off because of injuries due to overtraining. It was especially tough on me because I was 12 years older than most of my fellow crew members, so I didn't recover as quickly.

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    I could bloody kill my bike if i didn't love it so much. Now the freaking BB is gasping and groaning for what will be its' miserable last few miles.

    Got my shoes, so i am finally clipless. I just need fenders and i'll be sweet. Except for the BB and the inevitable breakage in about 100 miles. Can you tell that my bike seems to fall apart on me?

    I treat them with such love too, maybe i need to play hard to get. I hear that they love that.
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    Just a very normal commute yesterday, almost exactly average time on the 32 mile PM run (2:06).
    I think I barely hit a pigeon (I heard feathers on front tire).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars
    Totally rocking the recumbent lately! My commute in the summer is 19 miles one way. For the past couple of weeks, I have made every trip in under an hour. I'm just in this pedal pushing groove and eat up the miles! Woohoo!
    Wow Mars, I'm jealous. My commute is also 19 Miles each way and I usually make it in about 1:15. If I hammer I can do it in 1:05 but that leaves me feeling totally whipped.

    The weather forcast yesterday called for thunderstorms starting at around 9:00am. I left at 6:00am and 45 minutes into the commute the skies were ominously dark with lots of lightning coming from the direction I was heading. I put the hammer down but still got caught in the rain on the last mile. That was my first rain ride since adding fenders. Even more amazing than how much grime the fenders kept off of me was how much they kept off the bike. I don't know why I didn't add them sooner.

    Quote Originally Posted by JugglerDave
    I think I barely hit a pigeon (I heard feathers on front tire).
    Yikes! I've not had close calls with birds but the short section of MUP that I use on my commute seems to be full of suicidal bunnies.

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    Will I think the Doc was just tring to get me off the bike for a week or two. But he knows I would not. When he told me I had to get my gall stones out. I asked him "Why, are they boughting you" He just gave me this look like WTF. But he and I have a understanding, he tells me what to do and I do half of what he says. He knows that and just add to it so I'll did what he wants me to.

    But I have been taken it easy for the three days that I was off. and then the first day back on the bike. Now I have been verying my ride speeds. more on the slow side and taken it a bit easy on the hot ride home. I trying to keep it down to 17 mph on the way home and under 20 on the way in.
    May your feet keep move'n with the wind to your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrologia
    This is my third week commuting to work. I can only do it once a week at this point. I got a speedometer/odometer yesterday, so I'm able to post official stats instead of half-assed guesses.

    Here's for the trip in to work this morning (the easy direction ):

    25.12 miles
    1 hour, 48 mins
    13.9 mph average
    Top speed: 35 mph

    It was another beautiful morning for biking. Warm and sunny. I anticipate it being in the 90's on the way home though. I've got my water bottles in the freezer!

    I always liked having a computer for my long commute, I never paid attention to it while riding but was always amazed that it really was 25 miles one way... I could usually do the ride to work in about an hour and a half and the return trip was always longer at 2 hours. Who can blame me... I was working the graveyard shift!


    PS: It will get easier, I was doing that 5 days a week for 3 months. Would have equaled 12,000 miles annually just for going to and from work. I still rode for fun on my days off.

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    For the last month or more, I have been commuting between my girlfriend's place and work. 35kms each way. Most weeks I only visit once. Normally do a sat morning 100k+ ride also. A couple of weeks ago I did the trip back to back two days in a row. Felt exhausted for several days after, bit of a sore throat. Probably over training, not enough sleep.

    How do you all cope with long commutes? Lack of sleep from getting up early, time to prepare and eat meals? Juggling clothes and showering at work? Does anyone include heart rate monitor interval work?

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    ianh - I'm a total slacker now. I had all this motivation before the bike race to train/commute, now I'm slacking horribly! But I think I just needed a bit of a break. All I can think about is a new, lighter bike too...

    But it's true, some days I just feel like I don't want to get up extra early and rush to ride. So I don't. Luckily I don't feel that way too often! To give myself that extra push, I think about how great I'll feel during most of the ride and after - can't beat that nice, exhausted feeling!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_chick
    To give myself that extra push, I think about how great I'll feel during most of the ride and after - can't beat that nice, exhausted feeling!!

    I never feel exhausted. I always feel more awake vs when I dont ride before work. Very much more alert and happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtn_chick
    ... All I can think about is a new, lighter bike too...
    A few months ago I went from a lead lined chinese mountain bike to an all carbon road racer!! KER-POW.. So easy to ride up hills, makes me look so much fitter

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    Maybe that's why I feel exhausted... I blame the bike!! Yeah, that's it...

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    I haven't been able to ride much, we had an off-site conference so I have been taking the bus & train. Very frustrating becuase it takes almost two hours to get there, and I've been too tired to ride in the evenings. I have to do the same thing two-days next week. arrgh.

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