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    Saw a cyclist hit

    I was following a female cyclist on my way in to work this morning when a car passes me, pulls alongside the cyclist in front of me, then makes a right turn... barely slowed, no signal... Just BAM, right into her.

    The lady driving the car stopped... I called 911, and we waited about 5-10 minutes for paramedics to arrive.

    On a positive note, she was standing up and moving after I gave my contact information to the police, and appeared to be ok, if a little sore.

    The bike, on the other hand, didn't fare so well... the front rim was BROKEN in two places, and it looked like the fork was bent (or broken... was paying more attention to the rider)

    I also overheard one cop having to explain to another why this was NOT the bicyclists fault, but the drivers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmclaughlin807
    I also overheard one cop having to explain to another why this was NOT the bicyclists fault, but the drivers...
    Well, at least that one cop was on the ball. The other one might have given a ticket to the wrong person.

    Was the car driver on the phone by chance?

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    The driver didn't even have a cell phone. Had to use mine to call 911.

    She was just on 'autopilot' and not really paying attention to anything... she had passed myself and one other cyclist who was a ways behind me, then hit this one. Probably didn't notice any of us.

    I don't think the cyclist even knew the car was there, untill it hit her.

    The worst part is that this is one of the safest parts of my commute, nice WIDE road, no turns, no real hills... you can easily see 3-4 blocks ahead and back, and it borders a park.... you'd think the drivers would be extra cautious with the kids and everything, but....

    It was right here.
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    Well, bikes are replaceable no matter how expensive the bike is\was.

    At least she is okay.
    Car vs cyclist incidents seem to be increasing by leaps and bounds lately. Probably due to bike to work week.

    I'm becoming concerned. No one has tried to hurt or kill me for a month or two. I best pay attention even more so.

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    I'm always on the defensive when I'm out there, but I've had too many close calls to say that my efforts at being safe will keep me alive.

    all it takes is a car...
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    I haven't really had any 'close calls' lately... I've been hit 3 times in the past two years, and every time I saw the car coming, had the right of way, and chose to leave myself in the car's path. I figure getting hit in a controlled manner (Usually rear wheel) is better and safer than the next time the driver hits someone who ISN'T prepared. Hopefully the taps on me and my bikes made the drivers pay more attention to their surroundings, and they WON'T hit someone else.

    My worst accident ever happened in High School... I got hit by a truck making a left turn, at about 20mph ... I saw her coming and there was no way for me to get out of the way... I just aimed for the only thing in the area that was soft (A bush in a concrete planter) and pulled my foot out of the way of her bumper. I went over her hood, and landed in the bush.

    I did $980 damage to the front of her truck. (Did I mention she didn't have any insurance and had JUST gotten the truck out of the shop after over $3000 in repairs from hitting a deer? The deer probably had the right of way, too....)

    I straightened out the frame on my bike with a pair of two-by-fours, and was riding it around the next day.

    I saw her a few days later (it WAS a small town, after all) .... she's going slow and gives me a WIDE berth.

    So... hopefully they learn from the little accidents, and these people won't be involved in anything worse.
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    I'm surprised the driver stopped. Many times you hear about a driver hitting a cyclist or pedestrian, they flee the scene. It sounds like everything turned out OK. Hopefully she will get a new bike.

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    There's no excuse for that sort of thing. I've had the same exact thing almost happen to me on a slight downhill at 20+mph and was alerted to the idiot by, believe it or not, the driver in front of the offender -- he screamed out "watch out!" or something like that because he must have been tailgated. Incredibly the offending driver simply didn't care that making the right turn would involve cutting through a cyclist group ride! It's too easy to get and keep a driving license, IMO. Thank goodness for the other driver for really paying attention to the road.
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    Today was not a great day for me on the commute. On the way home I:

    1) Almost have a car hit me in a cross walk....I slowed down because I saw that the car wasn't. Apparently being nearly half way out in the intersection when they are 20 yards away isn't enough warning for this lame-O.

    2) I am coming up on a slower rider on the Iron Horse trail and he starts climbing a bike path bridge over a busy street. I kick it up a gear, get out of the saddle...stay to the left of him, call out "on your left!" and he doesn't really move over much but I get by him without much hassle...then when I am about 20 feet in front of him he screams out something unintelligible (thought he had terrets (sp)), I turn my head to see what the heck is eating him...and he looks agitated but he isn't saying anything. I yell back to him, "I Called out 'On Your Left!'" He doesn't say anything. Then I am waiting at a light and it just turns green, he comes by me really close and I don't see him, then he screams at the top of his lungs as he passes me "LLLLLLLEEEEEEFFFFFFTTTTT!!!!" I asked what his @#$#ing problem was and that I signaled when I went by....he just smirked and took off in another direction.

    3) I'm cruising in the bike lane and this woman in a BMW SUV drives by me, quickly moves right into the bike lane without a signal, and stops in the bike lane 10 feet in front of me. I thought..."She'll keep moving...there is no reason for her to stop there." But she parked...because there was a mailbox on the sidewalk and she was too lazy to pull into the parking lot on the other side of the mailbox. Nor was she considerate enough to think...maybe I should wait 5 seconds for this bike rider to move past the mailbox so that I can pull in safely behind him. I was moving pretty good so I had to veer out into the road to avoid hitting her. She acted like she was totally oblivious that she cut me off and almost had me running up her arse.

    Strange commute day for me.
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    Sad story, well the cop part is sad to me.

    I think every accident I was ever involved in the ticket was issued to the wrong person, I really think alot of law officers need some refreshment on the laws, even more than that they need more common sence and to care about the situation more.

    too many of them get into the "job" part aspect of just writing the ticket by what ever standard there cheat book tells them and not really an evaluation to the situation to give the proper ticket. So your insurance goes up and you get marks on your record, all because sombody else caused an accident but you got the ticket.

    Some short stories that are valid:

    My mother was making a U-Turn on a green arrow a mustang was racing and RAN the red light, hit her at nearly 45mph and destroyed the car. She was ok and all but she got the ticket for making a left hand turn. The law clearly states that if your making a left hand turn your violating the right away of other vehicles and are automaticly at fault. Well so by book sure she was wrong but the situation was obvious they ran a red light, she had the right of way but the cop didnt care to investigate and gave her the ticket.

    My only accident was totaling my camaro, leaving my X fiances house going around her block some guy comming at me in the other lane right infront of me turns left to go into his drive way! (seriously like 20 feet away) and I am doing 34 or so. He didnt even look to see me comming once he saw my car about to hit him he just hits his brakes and stops in the middle of the road (no matter he could not have made the turn reguardless) I destroyed my favorite car I ever had (25th aniversary 92' Camaro RS) and when the cop came to the scene he gave me the ticket saying it was my fault for speeding, totally bypassing the left turn law and I wasnt even speeding!!!! he mesured skid marks on the road that didnt even belong to me there were these narrow as heck honda looking tire marks and I have big fat camaro tires. You can clearly see my skidmarks that start close to his car and go into his mailbox (officer charged me for property damage too) Unlike my mother I challenged the ticket in court. I had a book I made with all the laws, and pictures of the scene including my tire marks (I went all out marked the road with street chalk and had a measuring tape laid out and marked off the skid marks ect ect), All the formuas they use to determine speed of collisoin based on skid marks... The case was thrown out almost instantly. I didnt even need to do all the work I did. However even in a best case scenario like mine I still lost my car (just droped full coverage insurance a week before this and because I got the ticket his insurance company was not liable to fix my car) and lost my time/money on having to go to court (lost a day at work and paid for parking) Total BS that situation was, just because I was a younger kid and he was an adult the officer just assumed I was at fault and didnt follow the laws.

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    And when they do see us, a lot of drivers underestimate our speed. They think there's plenty of time to turn in front of us, because we're only going at pedestrian-speed, right? Oops, I guess not.

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    I had a guy pull ahead of me and make a right turn right in my path today.

    I had to brake HARD just to avoid him. He didnt even notice and went on his merry way. Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flak
    I had a guy pull ahead of me and make a right turn right in my path today.

    I had to brake HARD just to avoid him. He didnt even notice and went on his merry way. Idiot.
    Yeah... that happens to me a lot. I had one lady almost kill me TWICE. First she accelerates in the merge lane to my right, barely squeezes past me, missing my front tire by about 6 inches, then slams on her brakes to make an immediate right turn.

    ARGH!!!

    I almost got smashed by a bus today. A SHERIFF'S department bus... followed by a Sheriff's van.... the van gave me plenty of room, and I saw him grab his radio and start yelling into it... I assume he was yelling at the idiot driver of the bus... the guy shrugged at me, and they kept going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DataJunkie
    Well, bikes are replaceable no matter how expensive the bike is\was.

    At least she is okay.
    Car vs cyclist incidents seem to be increasing by leaps and bounds lately. Probably due to bike to work week.

    I'm becoming concerned. No one has tried to hurt or kill me for a month or two. I best pay attention even more so.

    When more people ride on the streets, it makes them safer for cyclists, so I don't think that the bike to work week would be causing more accidents. If anything, it should be causing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlm227
    When more people ride on the streets, it makes them safer for cyclists, so I don't think that the bike to work week would be causing more accidents. If anything, it should be causing less.
    The problem with bike to work week is that suddenly there are a lot of people that aren't experienced at it, and some of them don't understand the rules and/or 'good manners' that make the trips safe.

    If said riders are running lights, riding on the sidewalks, or riding against the flow of traffic, then yes... accident counts will go up.

    A lot of the riders I passed this morning had trouble just keeping it in a straight line.

    One pair riding side by side went to opposite sides of the trail, and kept riding... one on the right, one on the left, expecting me to go between them as they weaved. I just stayed behind them untill they figured it out, got it together, and one went in behind the other one, and I could safely go around.

    Don't get me wrong, I LOVED seeing all the riders out this morning, and didn't mind at all slowing down to make sure I could safely get around them!!!!
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    I could have easily been clobbered yesterday. I was coming back from a road ride and had just stopped at a 4 way stop and was accelerating away. As I was getting back up to speed, a car passed me signalling a right hand turn. To be fair to the driver, I saw look in her rear view mirror and she waited for me to pass her on the right before completing her turn. No one was behind and I continued to accelerate and shifted over in the (extra wide) lane and passed on her left. I appreciate that she realised that her turn was not likely to be completed by the time I reached the crossroads but I wish people wdn't hang about and expect me to pass them on the right. Geesh!
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