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Allen 07-25-06 04:56 PM

MMmmm...Good Salsa--La Raza that is...
 
For a long time I've been wanting a light weight commuter, and in January I was in the LBS on a payday, bought a crank-set, and I was committed. Seven months of mac-and-cheese dinners and buying a piece at a time, I'm done.
My intent was to build a dead reliable, practical, commuter, that I could also use for some light touring, century rides, an all around general purpose road bike. To that end I wanted a steel frame, with the right eyelets (fenders, rack, and lights make toys into tools in my mind), and I liked the weight of the La Raza.
The Rohloff hub more than meets my demands for reliability, and then there is the fact that I hate derailers, so what the hell, I could have made worse choices.
I'm physically uncomfortable on drop handle bars, so I'm going with a "M" shaped one that seems promising. It's an all day bike, and I put an all day saddle on it, a generator front hub, and Campy everywhere else.
I've put a hundred miles on her, and she is nimble, crisp (the Brooks still is not broken in) and the drive train is like butter. I love this bike.

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...Daily-Trim.jpg
Daily Trim

Click for larger images
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...Commute-tn.jpg
Full Commute

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...e/Front-tn.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...ndlebar-tn.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictures/Bike/Rear-tn.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...ke-Boss-tn.jpg

--A

ZachS 07-25-06 05:01 PM

beautiful. now that's what I call a bike! someday I hope to have something similar.

Allen 07-25-06 05:32 PM

Thanks Zach,

I'm damned proud of her. The only thing I have left to do is remove the inner front chain ring. Just waiting for some spacers to come in.

--A

marqueemoon 07-25-06 05:41 PM

Nice. I like those frames. It's kind of crazy how rare road frames you can fit real fenders on are these days. What kind of fenders are those by the way?

LilSprocket 07-25-06 05:43 PM

oooooo, very nice! many happy wonderful miles :beer:

Allen 07-25-06 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marqueemoon
Nice. I like those frames. It's kind of crazy how rare road frames you can fit real fenders on are these days. What kind of fenders are those by the way?

Thanks Marqueemoon, Sprocket,
The fender eyelets were the deciding point when I was choosing this frame. They are made by Gilles Berthoud.

--A

jyossarian 07-25-06 06:32 PM

That's a beautiful bike Allen. I like the handlebar and saddle bags and handlebars and the choice of a dynamo hub. The Rolhoff also looks good and clean. And I've been considering a La Raza roadie build up. I've read good things about those frames.

Allen 07-25-06 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyossarian
The Rolhoff also looks good and clean.

I appreciate that Jyossarian,

The only thing I wish I could change is the dropouts. If it had horizontal instead of vertical, I could ditch the chain tensioner and get a really clean chain line.

--A

Gibbygoo 07-25-06 06:51 PM

Thanks for sharing! Excellent build up.

madscot13 07-25-06 09:15 PM

way to build your bike to your specifications.

I found what looks like an old schwinn bike behind my house with an internal hub and would like to make it into my winter commuter. It looks like the bikes they have in amsterdam, so I will call it my international cruiser.

ps what is a dynamo hub? does it power lights?

jyossarian 07-25-06 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madscot13
ps what is a dynamo hub? does it power lights?

Yup. Shimano and Schmidt make them. The German one's better, but more spendy.

madscot13 07-25-06 09:56 PM

How do you choose which hub you need? I mean not the model but the holes and the other stuff? do you need to buy a new wheel? where do you buy the lights?

ryanparrish 07-25-06 09:58 PM

droolz I even seen that seat on a bike round town it makes me want to get a brooks just for the seat bag and of course the awesome ride but extremly spendy for me

LóFarkas 07-26-06 05:02 AM

So you wanted a light weight commuter and you bought a Rohloff and a dynamo hub? Hmmmm... *restrains self from calling the bike a pig*

'Course, after you mount all those bags it becomes irrelevant how much the bike originally weighed. Looking pretty nice, BTW.

georgiaboy 07-26-06 05:34 AM

Great bike :beer:

Interested in knowing how the handlebars will perform over a long ride. Great choice in frame. 853 is great stuff.

What is the fork material for the La Raza?

fender1 07-26-06 07:15 AM

Great bulid!!!! I am currently in the mac & cheese phase of similar build w/ my 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur frame (4130 Chromoly, Orange w/Chomed lugs!!!) nexus 8 and Schmidt Dyno hub, Brooks Champion flyer black sks fenders. Thanks for the inspiration to choke down another packet of ramen for lunch!

Allen 07-26-06 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LóFarkas
So you wanted a light weight commuter and you bought a Rohloff and a dynamo hub? Hmmmm... *restrains self from calling the bike a pig*

Oh go on and call her a pig, I won't take offense, weight is not her only porcine trait. I did have to pay a vet bill today and had the chance to use their scales. She comes in with rack, but sans bags, pump and h2o bottles, at 27.2 pounds or 12.34kg. Not that bad for a fully outfitted bike.

Which leads me into a story:
I had supper with my best friend and his wife last night. He hates this bike, would rather wear a shirt made of sharpened cats than have it. He calls it "A bourgeoisie, folly of excess, insult to the proletariat cyclist." Which would not be nearly as meaty if it was not coming from someone who welded the exhaust system of his MGB out of Foster's Beer oil cans. But then he's a rat rod aficionado. I could almost swear the shifter cables on his Raleigh are bailing wire and his "Vibram" brake pads are carved from the "souls" of discarded work boots.

Allen 07-26-06 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madscot13
How do you choose which hub you need? I mean not the model but the holes and the other stuff? do you need to buy a new wheel? where do you buy the lights?

This dynamo hub is the Shimano hub. It only comes in 2 verities, a disk brake version and a non disk version, both are 32 hole hubs.
Peter White has a complete explanation of dynamo hubs.
As does Ben Cooper at Kinetics
And of course Sheldon "hit the lights please" Brown has more than a few articles on the subject.

Allen 07-26-06 09:55 AM

Again thanks all,

I've done one long ride (32 miles) on the "mary" bars so far, and I really like them. Hands never went to sleep, and that is make or break for a handlebar to me.
Initially I was concerned that a 52 tooth front ring would be too tall. It is tall but I have yet had the need to use the lowest gear, she climbs well. If I decide to do some touring on this frame I may switch out the 52 to a 48, but for daily use I like the way it's currently set.

--A

Oh yeah, GaBoy, the fork is carbon

dalmore 07-26-06 10:02 AM

I'm jealous.

Dead Extra #2 07-26-06 02:12 PM

Very nice! What chain tensioner are you using, and how does the wire comming from the front hub attach?

cyccommute 07-26-06 03:34 PM

What brand are the handlebars and where did you get them? My wife is wanting some different bars and those look like they would be just the ticket.

marqueemoon 07-26-06 04:35 PM

They are Mary bars by On-One.

http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/pagemaster/mary.jpg

Allen 07-26-06 05:35 PM

Those are they, I got them off line from On-One.

Allen 07-26-06 05:40 PM

D.E. #2,

It's a Rohloff chain tensioner, came with the hub.
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...-tensioner.jpg

I'm using P-Clamps to hang the rack because the hub shifter's quick release is in the way of the eyelets.

Quick Release Closed
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...lease-open.jpg

Quick Release Open
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...ase-closed.jpg

And this is how the wire connects to the front hub.

Closed
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur...yno-closed.jpg

Open
http://homepage.mac.com/awcg/.Pictur.../Dyno-open.jpg

--A


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