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    MMmmm...Good Salsa--La Raza that is...

    For a long time I've been wanting a light weight commuter, and in January I was in the LBS on a payday, bought a crank-set, and I was committed. Seven months of mac-and-cheese dinners and buying a piece at a time, I'm done.
    My intent was to build a dead reliable, practical, commuter, that I could also use for some light touring, century rides, an all around general purpose road bike. To that end I wanted a steel frame, with the right eyelets (fenders, rack, and lights make toys into tools in my mind), and I liked the weight of the La Raza.
    The Rohloff hub more than meets my demands for reliability, and then there is the fact that I hate derailers, so what the hell, I could have made worse choices.
    I'm physically uncomfortable on drop handle bars, so I'm going with a "M" shaped one that seems promising. It's an all day bike, and I put an all day saddle on it, a generator front hub, and Campy everywhere else.
    I've put a hundred miles on her, and she is nimble, crisp (the Brooks still is not broken in) and the drive train is like butter. I love this bike.


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    beautiful. now that's what I call a bike! someday I hope to have something similar.

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    Thanks Zach,

    I'm damned proud of her. The only thing I have left to do is remove the inner front chain ring. Just waiting for some spacers to come in.

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    Nice. I like those frames. It's kind of crazy how rare road frames you can fit real fenders on are these days. What kind of fenders are those by the way?

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    oooooo, very nice! many happy wonderful miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by marqueemoon
    Nice. I like those frames. It's kind of crazy how rare road frames you can fit real fenders on are these days. What kind of fenders are those by the way?
    Thanks Marqueemoon, Sprocket,
    The fender eyelets were the deciding point when I was choosing this frame. They are made by Gilles Berthoud.

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    That's a beautiful bike Allen. I like the handlebar and saddle bags and handlebars and the choice of a dynamo hub. The Rolhoff also looks good and clean. And I've been considering a La Raza roadie build up. I've read good things about those frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jyossarian
    The Rolhoff also looks good and clean.
    I appreciate that Jyossarian,

    The only thing I wish I could change is the dropouts. If it had horizontal instead of vertical, I could ditch the chain tensioner and get a really clean chain line.

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    Thanks for sharing! Excellent build up.

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    way to build your bike to your specifications.

    I found what looks like an old schwinn bike behind my house with an internal hub and would like to make it into my winter commuter. It looks like the bikes they have in amsterdam, so I will call it my international cruiser.

    ps what is a dynamo hub? does it power lights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madscot13
    ps what is a dynamo hub? does it power lights?
    Yup. Shimano and Schmidt make them. The German one's better, but more spendy.
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    How do you choose which hub you need? I mean not the model but the holes and the other stuff? do you need to buy a new wheel? where do you buy the lights?

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    droolz I even seen that seat on a bike round town it makes me want to get a brooks just for the seat bag and of course the awesome ride but extremly spendy for me

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    So you wanted a light weight commuter and you bought a Rohloff and a dynamo hub? Hmmmm... *restrains self from calling the bike a pig*

    'Course, after you mount all those bags it becomes irrelevant how much the bike originally weighed. Looking pretty nice, BTW.
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    Great bike

    Interested in knowing how the handlebars will perform over a long ride. Great choice in frame. 853 is great stuff.

    What is the fork material for the La Raza?

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    Great bulid!!!! I am currently in the mac & cheese phase of similar build w/ my 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur frame (4130 Chromoly, Orange w/Chomed lugs!!!) nexus 8 and Schmidt Dyno hub, Brooks Champion flyer black sks fenders. Thanks for the inspiration to choke down another packet of ramen for lunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LóFarkas
    So you wanted a light weight commuter and you bought a Rohloff and a dynamo hub? Hmmmm... *restrains self from calling the bike a pig*
    Oh go on and call her a pig, I won't take offense, weight is not her only porcine trait. I did have to pay a vet bill today and had the chance to use their scales. She comes in with rack, but sans bags, pump and h2o bottles, at 27.2 pounds or 12.34kg. Not that bad for a fully outfitted bike.

    Which leads me into a story:
    I had supper with my best friend and his wife last night. He hates this bike, would rather wear a shirt made of sharpened cats than have it. He calls it "A bourgeoisie, folly of excess, insult to the proletariat cyclist." Which would not be nearly as meaty if it was not coming from someone who welded the exhaust system of his MGB out of Foster's Beer oil cans. But then he's a rat rod aficionado. I could almost swear the shifter cables on his Raleigh are bailing wire and his "Vibram" brake pads are carved from the "souls" of discarded work boots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madscot13
    How do you choose which hub you need? I mean not the model but the holes and the other stuff? do you need to buy a new wheel? where do you buy the lights?
    This dynamo hub is the Shimano hub. It only comes in 2 verities, a disk brake version and a non disk version, both are 32 hole hubs.
    Peter White has a complete explanation of dynamo hubs.
    As does Ben Cooper at Kinetics
    And of course Sheldon "hit the lights please" Brown has more than a few articles on the subject.

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    Again thanks all,

    I've done one long ride (32 miles) on the "mary" bars so far, and I really like them. Hands never went to sleep, and that is make or break for a handlebar to me.
    Initially I was concerned that a 52 tooth front ring would be too tall. It is tall but I have yet had the need to use the lowest gear, she climbs well. If I decide to do some touring on this frame I may switch out the 52 to a 48, but for daily use I like the way it's currently set.

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    Oh yeah, GaBoy, the fork is carbon
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    I'm jealous.

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    Very nice! What chain tensioner are you using, and how does the wire comming from the front hub attach?
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    What brand are the handlebars and where did you get them? My wife is wanting some different bars and those look like they would be just the ticket.
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    They are Mary bars by On-One.


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    Those are they, I got them off line from On-One.
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    D.E. #2,

    It's a Rohloff chain tensioner, came with the hub.


    I'm using P-Clamps to hang the rack because the hub shifter's quick release is in the way of the eyelets.

    Quick Release Closed


    Quick Release Open


    And this is how the wire connects to the front hub.

    Closed


    Open


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