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Old 07-27-06, 07:11 AM   #1
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Police Presence on Queensboro Bridge?

I recently moved from another borough to Astoria, in Queens, New York. Now my commute takes me over the Queensboro Bridge, and I've noticed that there's always a police presence on the bridge. There are bicycle cops on the Queens side in the morning, and on the return trip, I've seen the bike cops either in the middle of the bridge or on the Queens side.

What's the story? I never thought of the bike path on the bridge as a high-crime area, at least not during rush hour.
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Old 07-27-06, 07:23 AM   #2
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I recently moved from another borough to Astoria, in Queens, New York. Now my commute takes me over the Queensboro Bridge, and I've noticed that there's always a police presence on the bridge. There are bicycle cops on the Queens side in the morning, and on the return trip, I've seen the bike cops either in the middle of the bridge or on the Queens side.

What's the story? I never thought of the bike path on the bridge as a high-crime area, at least not during rush hour.
It's just another example of the near police state we've become. Don't worry they're just showing the evil doers how tough and ready they are.
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Old 07-27-06, 07:29 AM   #3
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It could be due to terrorism concerns.
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Old 07-27-06, 07:43 AM   #4
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there have been more and more policemen on the Brooklyn Bridge as well... guys in the little cushman covered scooters and also bike cops (who look like they'd need a time-out halfway up the bridge, but that's beside the point).

another thing I've noticed on the BB is that there's almost always a police car parked in an inbound lane, creating an artificial bottleneck for car traffic headed into the city in the evening.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:31 AM   #5
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The gang over in the SS/FG forum has been going on about this, too.

Brooklyn Bridge BS

The city of New York, in apparent response to an injury that occurred recently when a biker hit a pedestrian on the Brooklyn Bridge, has turned up the heat on bikers in effort to have each and every biker dismount their bike at the base of the bridge where the accident occurred.

“We are just trying to keep things safe around here,” said one officer who was handing out tickets at the Brooklyn side opening of the bridge path. “The camera picks up your image as you are coming down and we have to sit here waiting to hand out the tickets.”

The officer said the tickets, which have no amount on them, should end up being about 60.00.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:37 AM   #6
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It could be due to terrorism concerns.
Ha! +1
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Old 07-27-06, 10:33 AM   #7
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It could be due to terrorism concerns.
They're taking somebody's "This Bike is a Pipebomb" sticker WAY too seriously.
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Old 07-27-06, 01:33 PM   #8
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It could be due to terrorism concerns.
+1 anyone who rides a bike instead of driving a car is an obvious threat to the state and the current order of things. These radicals have been known to gather in groups known as "peletons" to ferment their plans for a new world order. Ya "peleton" is French - does that suprise you that the French are obviously behind this dastardly plot to over throw our cherished freedoms and rights?

Bikes should be illegal or at the very least "bikers" should be forced to wear some identifying mark so law enforcement can be especially on guard.

However, I must say it is heartening to hear a "biker" hit a "pedestrian". It seem the "human powered" insurgents are turning on each other as we predicted. Let's face it alarm bells went off for me when I first heard the term "pedestrian" - yeah I didn't miss the similarity with "pedophille" and further research has confirmed that almost 100% of "pedophilles" have been "pedestrians" at some point in their lives. Quite a chilling fact.
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Old 07-27-06, 01:39 PM   #9
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Ooooh a cyclist hit a ped!!! On the Brooklyn Bridge! OMG!!11one











Where's the reaction for the piles of cyclists hit and KILLED by cars? This is ridiculous! Anyhow, I don't understand how cyclists dismounting is going to make much of a difference (and where the heck are they talking about?). Slowing down, sure, but dismounting? I don't see drivers being asked to get out of their cars at any point!
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Old 07-27-06, 02:04 PM   #10
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Wasn't someone convicted of a terrorist crime about two years ago when the authorities alleged that he planned to take the Brooklyn bridge apart with a wrench?

I felt safer after that.
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Where's the reaction for the piles of cyclists hit and KILLED by cars? This is ridiculous! Anyhow, I don't understand how cyclists dismounting is going to make much of a difference (and where the heck are they talking about?). Slowing down, sure, but dismounting? I don't see drivers being asked to get out of their cars at any point!
I think someone high up in the administration, maybe Raymond Kelly had a really traumatic experience with a bike or cyclist as a young child - a bike riding child molester, maybe? How else would you explain the ongoing harassment and hostility towards cyclists on the part of the PD?

In any case you're right on about motor vehicles getting preferential treatment; the existence of a ridiculous double standard in this town.

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Old 07-27-06, 03:27 PM   #12
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...How else would you explain the ongoing harassment and hostility towards cyclists on the part of the PD?...
I would explain it thusly:

It's easier than fighting crime

Occam's razor and all. But, I don't live in NYC, so <shrug>
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Old 07-27-06, 08:16 PM   #13
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I dunno, I was looking at these cats tonight and I don't think they're really out after cyclists. The seemed more interested in lollygagging and BSing than in little ol' me, or any other of the cyclists I saw. We'll see if they bring the hammer down tomorrow or not, it being final Friday and all.

In other news, though, has anyone else notice an absolute bumper crop of pedestrian on the bridge the last week or so? It is CROWDED up there!
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Old 07-27-06, 08:38 PM   #14
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On the Manhattan Bridge tonight, I nearly ran right into a cop on a motorcycle. There are two observation-deck outcroppings, which happen to be filled with orange pylons and construction mesh; it's a blind little jog to the left, for those of you who don't know the route. This clown is lounging smack in the blind spot of both directions of bike traffic. I did feel safe, though.
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Old 07-27-06, 08:53 PM   #15
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Wasn't someone convicted of a terrorist crime about two years ago when the authorities alleged that he planned to take the Brooklyn bridge apart with a wrench?

I felt safer after that.
That's gotta be an urban myth!

As for the po po's on the bridge, what are you so paranoid for? At least your chances of getting mugged have dropped.
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Old 07-27-06, 09:12 PM   #16
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That's gotta be an urban myth!

As for the po po's on the bridge, what are you so paranoid for? At least your chances of getting mugged have dropped.
Heh, po-po. Haven't heard that in a while.

I should have noted before that I did my usual BB crossing the other day when visiting family in Brooklyn and was a bit surprised to see, ahem, the po-po on the BB path. I'm not a big fan of racing downhill on the BB (I like to walk there too and don't like the way-too-fast riders) though so maybe they notice good behavior too?
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Old 07-28-06, 02:30 AM   #17
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The dismount thing is Bklyn bound on the Bklyn side. Ever notice the signs ABOVE the lane there? I didn't till someone got a ticket and wrote about it to TA. Also, I would love to know where the ped was hit on the BB, most likely on the bike side of the path. With increased ridership, that lane is going to get even more stupid crowded. We need our own lane down on the traffic deck or up on the old subway level, just above the ped/bike lane. Thats what I say.

I probably ride over the QB bridge like 6 to 8 times a month, and have never seen a cop, good to know they are protecting us from our freedom there now.
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On the Manhattan Bridge tonight, I nearly ran right into a cop on a motorcycle. There are two observation-deck outcroppings, which happen to be filled with orange pylons and construction mesh; it's a blind little jog to the left, for those of you who don't know the route. This clown is lounging smack in the blind spot of both directions of bike traffic. I did feel safe, though.
I saw that guy this morning, except that he was lounging on the climb up from the brooklyn side, leaned against the fence and watching the workmen who were working on the roof of one of the buildings below. Don't know if it was anything but coincidence, but times up was doing their free breakfast thing on the other side this morning. I wish there was some way of knowing for sure what they were up to.
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Old 07-28-06, 12:24 PM   #19
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$5 bucks says it was a tourist who wanted a picture of him on the bridge so he went to the bike side so his buddy could take a picture. I've seen it a thousand times, many ten thousand.

The line down the middle and image of a bike mean absolutely nothing.


On the other hand, I've lived here my whole life and excuse my ignorance, but there is a walkway on the Manhattan Bridge????
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Looks like this is happening in several NYC neighborhoods:

http://www.streetsblog.org/2006/07/2...the-nypd-came/
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Old 07-28-06, 04:54 PM   #21
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Don't know if it was anything but coincidence, but times up was doing their free breakfast thing on the other side this morning.
I'm bummed. I want a free breakfast. Queens just gets no respect...

Make the cagers "dismount" before/after crossing the bridge. If they do that, I'll happily dismount from my bicycle.
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Old 07-29-06, 09:18 AM   #22
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So last night, I didn't get out of work til 10pm, and was on the bridge at about quarter past ten, and there were no police at all. So are they only interested in "protecting" us during daylight hours and not, you know, at night, when the bridge is more deserted and theoretically more dangerous?

I'm gonna ask my cop neighbor if there's any way to find out why police are sent to the places they go to. I'd also like to know why there are two empty cop cars parked in the inbound lane of the bridge as well.
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Old 07-30-06, 06:24 AM   #23
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I'm confused. Why does the NYPD hate bicycles? My impressions from two visits to new york are that only the really rich and really crazy people drive, the only mildly rich seem to take taxi cabs, a gazillion people seem to be walking around and using the subway and I believe I saw another gazillion biking around. So why do they hate the ones biking?
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