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Old 08-02-06, 12:18 AM   #1
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Anyone been mugged, etc on a commute?

I was just wondering if anyone has been mugged or approached in a malicious way while on a commute. It seems that bikers would be more susceptible to this than drivers, but less so than pedestrians.

On a related note, does anyone carry protection with them when they commute (pocket knives, pepper spray, retractable nightstick, etc)? I guess in an emergency you could always woop ass with a u-lock.
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Old 08-02-06, 01:54 AM   #2
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About 12 years ago I was on my way home when these gangbangers spoked my bike(steel bar thru the front spokes)flew over the handlebars and landed inna heap!! then they tryed to take the bike...Dumbest thing they did in a week,as soon as I realised what was up I snatched the bike from the one who was trying to get on it(he was about 5'3" and I'm 6'4") by the rear wheel and Elkabonged him!! laid him out,Cold!! His friends then thought they could get the bike from me...Well they did'nt figure that a Very Pissed Deadhead could be as crazy as I was!! Screaming and swinging the bike by the rear wheel,I proceeded to try and kill them.they were out to hurt me and I was'nt gonna let them,even if it tore up my ride!! Needless to say after about 30 seconds they figured that the bike was'nt worth the beating I was giving them,they ran like scalded cockroches(Except the one I hit with the bike,he laid there and bled)
after the cops got there the guy on the ground tryed to tell then that I came after them,the cop just looked ans asked"When does a hippie in his right mind pick a fight with 10 or so Hispanic Gangbangers?" picked him up and cuffed and stuffed him in the crusier
Damage to the bike...Four broken spokes,bent forks...Damage to gangbanger, Concousion (sp) 45 stiches,broken cheekbone,embarrassed to have the **** beated out of him by a Peacenik
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Never had any trouble of this sort, on bike or on foot. Must be lucky. Also must mean that when the trouble does come, it'll be BIG!

I think cyclists are most vulnerable when stopped at intersections or on bike paths. I wouldn't want to rob a cyclist zooming along at 25 mph... I would also guess curb-huggers are in a slightly greater risk.
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About 12 years ago I was on my way home when these gangbangers spoked my bike........Damage to gangbanger, Concousion (sp) 45 stiches,broken cheekbone,embarrassed to have the **** beated out of him by a Peacenik
Wow, you are the MAN!

Back when I lived in Harlem, I was stopping at a McDonald's on my way home when a guy in tried to take my bike from me "at gunpoint" (he said he had one in his pocket, which I was pretty sure he didn't, but he was twice my size and I was about 13 so I did what he said). Thing was, I was locking my front wheel to my rear wheel when he approached me so he told me to put the wheel back on and "make it tight". I made it tight *looking* alright... and when he picked up that bike to carry it over the curb, it bounced off and landed right in front of him. I ran inside the Mickey D's and watched him give up and walk away, cursing at me, without the bike.
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Riding home from work about 3 miles from home, three young men were walking against traffic in the road, right where I was headed on my bike. Traffic was bumper-to-bumper and I was filtering past on the right. When they saw me, I braked and they stepped off the road to let me pass. I started pedaling again (slightly down hill) and as I began to pass them, they stuck their arms out in front of my face. I stuck up my right arm to block (very bad idea) and when my arm contacted on of theirs, my handlebars flipped and I went over them on my head/face. When I came to, one of several motorists who had gotten out of their cars to check on me said, "I think his teeth went through his lip." (That was an unnecessary comment!)

I got to file a police report (while bleeding) and ride in a real ambulance. I've had to wear a mustache to cover the scar ever since.

Never, never take your hands off the handlebars in an emergency, and avoid pedestrians, especially suspicious ones.
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Old 08-02-06, 08:10 AM   #6
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I have never even heard of that happening. I do have a sticker that says I have a god as my co pilot, which explains it.
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I take and use a Wrist Rocket and a bag of 1/2" glass marbles from the local dollar store. I used it once on a person that tried to rob the group of touring bicyclists I was riding with. Bad mistake! I eased my Wrist Rocket and a marble out of my front basket and whacked him on the side of his head at 5 feet. I know I heard his skull crack. He dropped the baseball bat and stumbled about 20 feet and fell to the ground. We simply left him laying there and continued the trip.
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I've thankfully never had any issues like this. Maybe being 6'6" and 250 pounds has something to do with it, but I'm more likely to chalk it up to good luck.
I have ridden in some ugly areas though, and my friends and I devised a rather keen protection method.

Materials:
- 1 bicycle with straight top tube
- 2" length of 1" I.D. PVC pipe
- 6" length of Velcro (tm) hook/loop closure
- hot glue gun
- 4 long cable ties
- thin rubber anti-vibration matting (2x 1" squares)
- drill and bit (large enough to make a cable tie sized hole)
- pool cue, aluminum pipe, or other relatively straight bludgeon
- hacksaw

- Cut the PVC pipe in half lengthwise so you have 2 U-shaped 2" long segments
- Place the half round, flat side down, on a drilling surface. Drill 2 holes at each end, about 0.5" apart, and equidistant from the centerline. When the cable ties are threaded through these holes, the tie should not span a large gap, or leave much space at the bottom section of the inside of the U.
- Thread a cable tie through each set of holes.
- using the 1" squares of rubber matting to reduce slippage, mount the U brackets to your top tube, about 1" from the steerer and seat tubes.
- trim the appropriate length of the "fuzzy" side of the Velcro to line each bracket, and use the hot glue gun to affix in place
- use the hacksaw to trim your bludgeon such that it fits the length of your top tube brackets with about 0.25" of overhang on either end.
- using the hot glue gun, affix a wrap of the "hook" side of the Velcro to the corresponding bracket mounting points on your bludgeon.

If someone gives you cr@p, ride fast, holler like a madman (or woman, as the case may be,) and swing your bludgeon in a large overhead circle to prove you mean business. Let them know you will crack heads like an enraged Highland warrior if your assailant doesn't step the h3ll back.
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Old 08-02-06, 12:30 PM   #9
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I've thankfully never had any issues like this. Maybe being 6'6" and 250 pounds has something to do with it, but I'm more likely to chalk it up to good luck.
I have ridden in some ugly areas though, and my friends and I devised a rather keen protection method.

Materials:
- 1 bicycle with straight top tube
- 2" length of 1" I.D. PVC pipe
- 6" length of Velcro (tm) hook/loop closure
- hot glue gun
- 4 long cable ties
- thin rubber anti-vibration matting (2x 1" squares)
- drill and bit (large enough to make a cable tie sized hole)
- pool cue, aluminum pipe, or other relatively straight bludgeon
- hacksaw

- Cut the PVC pipe in half lengthwise so you have 2 U-shaped 2" long segments
- Place the half round, flat side down, on a drilling surface. Drill 2 holes at each end, about 0.5" apart, and equidistant from the centerline. When the cable ties are threaded through these holes, the tie should not span a large gap, or leave much space at the bottom section of the inside of the U.
- Thread a cable tie through each set of holes.
- using the 1" squares of rubber matting to reduce slippage, mount the U brackets to your top tube, about 1" from the steerer and seat tubes.
- trim the appropriate length of the "fuzzy" side of the Velcro to line each bracket, and use the hot glue gun to affix in place
- use the hacksaw to trim your bludgeon such that it fits the length of your top tube brackets with about 0.25" of overhang on either end.
- using the hot glue gun, affix a wrap of the "hook" side of the Velcro to the corresponding bracket mounting points on your bludgeon.

If someone gives you cr@p, ride fast, holler like a madman (or woman, as the case may be,) and swing your bludgeon in a large overhead circle to prove you mean business. Let them know you will crack heads like an enraged Highland warrior if your assailant doesn't step the h3ll back.
Pictures?
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Old 08-02-06, 12:51 PM   #10
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Unfortunately, I haven't got any pictures of it. I had this rigged up on my ride for a couple years up in Cleveland, but I took it off when I moved away and decided I didn't need it any longer.
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Old 08-02-06, 01:05 PM   #11
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don't ever slow down enough to let someone mug you... if they are on foot and your good on your bike they'll never catch you (in most situations).

i have had several inquiries to "borrow" my bike but i think they were all just messing around.
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Old 08-02-06, 01:10 PM   #12
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Never had a problem myself, but in addition to a multi-tool I carry around this so that I have a pair of pliers handy... the other toys on it are just a bonus.
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I've had some problems, but only from morons and dope addicts who couldn't plan a proper attack so no one has ever gotten me on my bike.

I don't believe in weapons. A competent attacker will take you out before you have a chance to use it. Having a weapon and failing to succeed could significantly worsen your situation.
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Yup. Just a few weeks ago. They failed. Read it here.
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When I was 18 or 19 I was in a Subway restaurant having a sub around the time the bars get out. My bike was outside leaning against the window, and I was on the other side of the window inside eating. 2 drunks decided to take it for a spin. I left the bike in low gear and they couldn't pedal, or change gears apparantly. I left my sub and seatpost in the restaurant and went after them, when I was about to put my weight against the one on the bike to knock him off, he swerved off the curb and wiped out. I grabbed the bike by the back wheel and he had the bike by the handlebars. Because he was drunk, I easily dragged him into traffic, the combination of approaching cars and his friend suggesting he should just give me my bike back, convinced him to release it. No damage done.
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I have to ride after midnight through what the local newspaper has coined "The Corridor of Death." No weapon necessary. Just shut up and ride.

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I take and use a Wrist Rocket and a bag of 1/2" glass marbles from the local dollar store. I used it once on a person that tried to rob the group of touring bicyclists I was riding with. Bad mistake! I eased my Wrist Rocket and a marble out of my front basket and whacked him on the side of his head at 5 feet. I know I heard his skull crack. He dropped the baseball bat and stumbled about 20 feet and fell to the ground. We simply left him laying there and continued the trip.
wow, you probably killed him!
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Nah. I take my defensive strategy from the Skunk Works. Just like the SR-71, my only weapon is speed.
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I was attacked by a bunch of wanna-be gangsters about a week ago... three of them jumped out of an SUV... one kept my attention, while another one circled around in back of the SUV and hit me in the back of the head... when I spun around, the chicken sh*t was scurrying back around the SUV, and his buddy in front of me was coming at me.

I evened the odds by picking up my bike, swinging it in a semi-circle, and throwing it as hard as I could at the windshield of the SUV, cracking it in several places. The driver (the 4th person, who hadn't jumped out) turned white, put it in reverse, and took off... his buddies chasing after him, yelling for him to "Wait up!", followed by me, running down the parking lot carrying my bike, calling them a bunch of chicken-sh*t, lily-livered cowards, and daring them to come back.

Quite amusing.

End result: one fairly large bruise on the back of my head, a headache for about 24 hours, 20 minutes spent re-adjusting my bike and trueing the wheels, and I'll probably have to rebuild the front wheel before TOO long. HE had to explain to his daddy (I'm sure it wasn't HIS SUV) how his windshield got busted on the way to Walmart.
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I had a couple of rednecks try something similar many years ago. I did the same thing, using the bike like a spear, with the big chainring going first at face level. When I lose my temper I get pretty beserk and I think the combination of my over the top hysteria and those pointy metal teeth scared the crap out of them. They couldn't get away from me fast enough.

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This has happened to me about 3 times. One time a drunk tried to grab my bike, I just sped up and kept going. He tried to run after me and fell flat on his face, laying in the middle of the road. The other time a bunch of kids in a minivan tried to harass me and get me off my bike, but I wouldn't stop. This went on for about 3 intersections until the driver and the passengers tried to jump out of their car but forgot to put it in gear. The car starts taking off in the middle of the intersection and almost hits a bunch of motorcyclists who are not too pleased and start beating the bajeebas out of the 4 young punks. Kind of funny. My main thing is when I ride I try not to stop, especially at night unless I have to. Have a good night.
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I have never even heard of that happening. I do have a sticker that says I have a god as my co pilot, which explains it.
I guess the Apostle Paul could have used one of those...
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Even though I ride in a safe area (never had anyone come after me in two months so far), reading threads like these remind me I really should pick up something.

Any suggestions to where to get a pepper spray or something (and a holster that can attach it to my front handle bars?).

I've seen 'Halt' stuff for dogs, but I don't know how well that works against the two legged dogs...
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