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Old 09-20-06, 07:05 AM   #1
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Trackstands Beeowch

Just wanted to share my excitement. Been practicing in the garage at my apartment when I get back from my commutes and last night I was full on trackstanding for 30-45 seconds at a time. Wahoo!!! Now if I can just transfer that skill to the road where it is actually useful..
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Old 09-20-06, 07:25 AM   #2
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good luck !

I really liked doing that when I was riding fixed !!! =)
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That is the trick! It's a lot easier when you can really concentrate on it with nothing else going on, it gets a lot harder when you have to keep looking at cars, traffic lights, and yelping dogs!

Just practice, practice, practice, before you know it it will be second nature, congrats!
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Definately practice while scanning back and forth 180°, as if you were at an intersection.
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I find it helpful to position my front wheel on the rising edge of some bump or feature in the road. This way I can trackstand on a coastable bike as well as the fixed.
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I find trackstanding of no real benefit in commuting, suburban or urban.
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I find trackstanding of no real benefit in commuting, suburban or urban.
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It's not about function or benefit.. it's about being so cool that people freak out when they see you. Someday I hope to be that cool. But for now I just look like a dorky cyclist rolling at .25mph wiggling all over the place.

I suppose it has a smidgen of purpose if you don't want to unclip to put your foot down.
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Sometimes, the benefit is the fun derived, not the usefulnes. I need to learn to trackstand.
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Do you not have red lights or something? We do here, and trackstanding allows me to not unclip, and start sooner when the light turns green. Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by "real benefit".
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Seriously. Has the commuting forum become so staunchy that you can't talk about things that don't have utility? Besides, I used the track stand twice today on my way in and it kept me up long enough to not have to step out of my powerstraps. Is that utility enough or are you trolling?
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Do you not have red lights or something? We do here, and trackstanding allows me to not unclip, and start sooner when the light turns green. Maybe I misunderstand what you mean by "real benefit".
Of course we do, I unclip and put one foot down and on start up stand up push down on still clipped in crank (in optimum placement) and clip in with other foot at pedal comes around. I can already do this far faster that is needed or safe when first in line at intersection and much faster than the line cars ahead of me gets moving when I am in line.
I ride with folks who trackstand at lights and find I am as fast (and often faster) than them too, as often times their pedals and/or front wheel or overall bike angle is not just right for a fast take off. Sure one can argue they should practice more.
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I can't totally trackstand, but I can ride superslow--almost trackstand. It's sort of useful, but certainly not indispensible.
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I def. think there is utility for trackstanding. I have just over a mile commute and trackstand at least twice along the way. Much easier than clipping out and putting a foot down, then reclipping when the light turns green.

Oh, it does look pretty sweet also
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Seriously. Has the commuting forum become so staunchy that you can't talk about things that don't have utility? Besides, I used the track stand twice today on my way in and it kept me up long enough to not have to step out of my powerstraps. Is that utility enough or are you trolling?
Are you referring to me? I'm not arguing for argument sake, just giving a contray point of view. I really think TSing overall all is of not much if any benefit riding in traffic (with the possible exception of waiting for left turn when in an intersection but a very slow roll forward from stop line can handle this just as well.) I also think TS can cause confusion to other drivers as well, especially at stop signs. But I do think it is a useful skill to improve overall bike handling skill.
Specifically I was responding to this part of your post "Now if I can just transfer that skill to the road where it is actually useful"
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I find it slightly helpful if riding a bike with clips and straps. With clipless it gives me something to do.
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I find it slightly helpful if riding a bike with clips and straps. With clipless it gives me something to do.
Here I totally agree, I'd even say very helpful if using straps that are tighted to a useful level.
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I guess those guys on the velodrome are just showing off, since it would be just as fast to unclip and put a foot down.
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I guess those guys on the velodrome are just showing off, since it would be just as fast to unclip and put a foot down.
Totally different situation and you know it.
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Of course we do, I unclip and put one foot down and on start up stand up push down on still clipped in crank (in optimum placement) and clip in with other foot at pedal comes around. I can already do this far faster that is needed or safe when first in line at intersection and much faster than the line cars ahead of me gets moving when I am in line.
I ride with folks who trackstand at lights and find I am as fast (and often faster) than them too, as often times their pedals and/or front wheel or overall bike angle is not just right for a fast take off. Sure one can argue they should practice more.
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They should practice more.

I can both trackstand and not trackstand, and I can start faster from a 'stand.
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Totally different situation and you know it.
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I disagree. It's about accelerating a bicycle from a stop, whether at a stoplight or a wooden track. Personally, I have never ridden on a velodrome but I do commute every day in traffic and I have found that it is easier and faster for me to trackstand than to unclip and reclip.

Maybe I just have poor clipping skills. I guess I could practice that in my garage in the evenings.
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