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    Night Vision goggles

    So we try out or create all these lighting systems. Has anyone tried riding at night with night vision goggles? You'd still need blinkies, but your forward facing light needs would decrease. Are there any decent goggles in a reasonable price range?

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    I hated driving with night vision. Depth perception was awful and tunnel vision was the norm, plus, they whited out, effectively blinding you, for seconds after receiving any input as bright as a flaring match. They're no doubt better these days, but still, ick.

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    $500 is about the lowest that I've seen for a head-mount binocular NVG setup.

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    The big issue is that they weigh almost 2 pounds, and they will seriously hinder the ability to wear a helmet. You'll also lose your peripheral vision with them, since they only operate on a specific viewfield focus.
    I didn't happen to see if they have flash suppression. That would be a big problem if they didn't because if a car or cyclist with an HID comes at you, w/o a suppression circuit you'd be hella blind.
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    The ones the military uses are pretty heavy. Which ones were you thinking of and how much do they weight?

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    Simple: Massive lights up front make cagers think "WTF is THAT???" and slow down. Blinkies don't do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
    $500 is about the lowest that I've seen for a head-mount binocular NVG setup.

    *link*

    The big issue is that they weigh almost 2 pounds, and they will seriously hinder the ability to wear a helmet. You'll also lose your peripheral vision with them, since they only operate on a specific viewfield focus.
    I didn't happen to see if they have flash suppression. That would be a big problem if they didn't because if a car or cyclist with an HID comes at you, w/o a suppression circuit you'd be hella blind.
    Also this one looks like you need 2 hands to operate.

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    At $500 that's not too bad for not having to worry about a lighting system. You could spend almost that much on a high end HID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-o
    Simple: Massive lights up front make cagers think "WTF is THAT???" and slow down. Blinkies don't do that.
    and a cyclist pulling up next to them at the stoplight, looking like something out of Navy Seals won't accomplish the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax
    and a cyclist pulling up next to them at the stoplight, looking like something out of Navy Seals won't accomplish the same thing.
    Although, I'd love to see the look on the driver's face when someone in all black riding gear, on a black, lightless bike cruises up next to their driver's side window from behind them all stealth-like and taps on the window with their black gloved hand, peering at them with a pair of NVGs.
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    I wouldn't want to lose 80% of my peripheral vision.
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    Spend some time peering through a couple of toilet paper tubes. If you like the view, go for the NVG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
    Although, I'd love to see the look on the driver's face when someone in all black riding gear, on a black, lightless bike cruises up next to their driver's side window from behind them all stealth-like and taps on the window with their black gloved hand, peering at them with a pair of NVGs.
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    What would oncoming bi-xenon headlights do to your eyes?
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    Having used Nightvision googles on several missions I can
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    Quote Originally Posted by truman
    I hated driving with night vision. Depth perception was awful and tunnel vision was the norm, plus, they whited out, effectively blinding you, for seconds after receiving any input as bright as a flaring match. They're no doubt better these days, but still, ick.
    They are not much better. On top of that they do not illuminate- They only pick up reflected light. If that light is minimimal -then you can see reasonably well- If that light is bright it will blind you and if it does not pick up any light- Then you have a black hole.

    I have just gone from candle power to a respectable light for night riding- The new light gives out more power but it is consistent across the whole of the light area. It is fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibikefor2
    What would oncoming bi-xenon headlights do to your eyes?
    Blow your retinas out the back of your head, I'd guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibikefor2
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    I agree it's a bad idea. A little anecdote:

    I was once driving a Hummer in a forward battle area on moonless night. I was using ANPVS7B (Gen III) night vision goggles. I went to drive up this small slope to an observation post. I rammed that sucker several times and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get up this thing. My gunner was getting seriously pissed (goggles on as well) I got out on foot and found the trail I was on actually went up a small cliff. With the lack of depth perception I couldn't tell with the goggles. Lesson learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff-o
    Heh, ninja cyclist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
    Although, I'd love to see the look on the driver's face when someone in all black riding gear, on a black, lightless bike cruises up next to their driver's side window from behind them all stealth-like and taps on the window with their black gloved hand, peering at them with a pair of NVGs.
    +10 in the laugh factor... that would pretty much do the trick for some motorists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WorldPax
    So we try out or create all these lighting systems. Has anyone tried riding at night with night vision goggles? You'd still need blinkies, but your forward facing light needs would decrease. Are there any decent goggles in a reasonable price range?

    Your thoughts.
    I used night vision goggles often in the Army. While driving you loose depth perception and become blinded by headlights (flares should be avoided). They weigh at least 5 lbs, stick out 6", and are fitted with a head harness, the lenses scratch easily even when the batteries are charged.
    Most common mishap involves a full bladder, walking into a tree (nose bridge bang) and while urinating looking down as they slide off.
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    Like everyone has said, it's not a good idea. No depth perception unless you use binocular, they're heavy, you'll get blinded by on coming traffic, little to no peripheral vision, the good ones are super expensive. I did a fly along with a local police department in their helicopter. I got to check out their night vision goggles and they were amazing! They had decent depth perception, amplified the smallest amount of light so you could darn near see like it was day, they were about the same weight as compact binoculars and the battery was small. Oh, they were something like $5000. The pilot said they were the most advanced ones on the market and were better than what 99% of the military used.
    Brilliant!

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