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Old 09-21-06, 06:51 PM   #1
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BLINK ! BLINK !! BLINK !!! in the Dark

Left ~ Planet Bike Superflash

Center ~ Cateye TL-LD 1000

Right ~ BLT Super doppler
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What setting do you have each on?
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Old 09-21-06, 07:33 PM   #3
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What setting do you have each on?
They are all on "steady" so I could get a photo. The Cateye has both banks of lights on.
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In your proffesional opinion which one produces the best performance
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Where do you get the Super Doppler?
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holy crap !

That is a damn BRIGHT red led !

I want one !!!
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Wow! Thanks!

Is that too much to ask for another picture with car's brake lights on?
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I want one !!!
Me too!!!

...oh wait, I have three already BUT THEY'RE NOT ADDICTIVE!

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"The Super Dopler
Still the brightest thing around, but the beam is narrow. Excellent for country roads with the cars a long way away.
No good for bumper to bumper traffic, the beam is too narrow. Also the quality contol is not good. Not 100% reliable, it can shut itself off on a hard bump.

The Cateye 10 LED better from the sides and any angle, but not quite as bright from a distance. Best of the three for bumper to bumper traffic and crossing intersections. My 2 have been reliable. For about a year.

The Planet Bike is not quite as bright as the Super Doppler but very close. It has a little wider hot spot from the rear. It's a little brighter than the Cateye directly from the rear but not as good from 90 degress to the side. Very good from about 45 degrees. Nice and compact for a minimalist style road bike. Time will tell about the reliability. It's a modified version of an older Planet Bike light, I have two of them, those are bulletproof, so I am very optomistic about the reliablity of the new ones."

In case anyone didn't see your other thread.

I ride around in highly intersected areas which is why I'm getting the Cat Eye, I like how it has 4 side LED's.
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In your professional opinion which one produces the best performance
See the other new thread just "Blink Blink Blink" for more info.

If you consider every factor, not just the brightness, go for the Cateye. The Super Doppler is not as good from the side and is not 100% reliable. But it is brighter from straight behind.

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I bought two, I found them on line from two different places. One in California (Action sports?)
And one in Canada. If I remember the name I'll post it. I googled "BLT" the name brand, and found them that way. The Supper Doppler can shut itself off if you hit a big bump. The bracket is not too good. The beam is too narrow for bumper to bumper traffic with the cars very close to you. From some angles it's not very bright. If you're in the city I would go with the Cateye. Use lithium batteries for the brightest light.
I normally ride with one Cateye and one Supper Doppler at the same time. For a long country road the Supper Doppler is better from a mile away.

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Here's another shot from a greater distance and a lot more ambient light pollution too. I thought this might be more realistic with other lights around.

This is two lights, the Cateye on the left and the Planet Bike is on the right. You can see that the Planet Bike (on the right) looks bigger in the photo even though it is a smaller light. This is because it's brighter from the rear.
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See the other new thread just "Blink Blink Blink" for more info.

If you consider every factor, not just the brightness, go for the Cateye. The Super Doppler is not as good from the side and is not 100% reliable. But it is brighter from straight behind.



I bought two, I found them on line from two different places. One in California (Action sports?)
And one in Canada. If I remember the name I'll post it. I googled "BLT" the name brand, and found them that way. The Supper Doppler can shut itself off if you hit a big bump. The bracket is not too good. The beam is too narrow for bumper to bumper traffic with the cars very close to you. From some angles it's not very bright. If you're in the city I would go with the Cateye. Use lithium batteries for the brightest light.
I normally ride with one Cateye and one Supper Doppler at the same time. For a long country road the Supper Doppler is better from a mile away.

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Here's another shot from a greater distance and a lot more ambient light pollution too. I thought this might be more realistic with other lights around.

This is two lights, the Cateye on the left and the Planet Bike is on the right. You can see that the Planet Bike (on the right) looks bigger in the photo even though it is a smaller light. This is because it's brighter from the rear.
Nice! Now for the eleventy-billion-dollar question... when shooting that pic, from that kind of distance, do you feel that the blinkies would actually draw a person's attention if they weren't specifically looking for them?
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Damn! I'm seeing after-images everytime I close my eyes!
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Wow! Thanks!

Is that too much to ask for another picture with car's brake lights on?
No problem....tomorrow night.


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Me too!!!

...oh wait, I have three already BUT THEY'RE NOT ADDICTIVE!

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Nice! Now for the eleventy-billion-dollar question... when shooting that pic, from that kind of distance, do you feel that the blinkies would actually draw a person's attention if they weren't specifically looking for them?
I'll have to think about that for a day. You got eleventy-billion dollars ?
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You missed the last meeting. It was your turn to bring donuts too! I think slvoid is coming up for the next meeting.
D'oh! Well no worries, I have another new blinkie to not be addicted by, I'll let you guys play with it too Planet Bike Blinky 5, nothing too special but I thought I'd check out the beam and see if the lens really is a good passive reflector or not.

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I think I have enough green ink to print out one eleventy-billion-dollar bill, let me check
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After all the tlak I heard on here about the Cateye LD100, I bought one.

I compared it to my current light, a Nashbar brilliant tailight that costs about half what the Cateye costs.

Put them side by side in my warehouse and the Nashbar is by far brighter than the Cateye.

I wouldseriously recommend checking this light out.

Here's the link: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...All%20Products
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After all the tlak I heard on here about the Cateye LD100, I bought one.

I compared it to my current light, a Nashbar brilliant tailight that costs about half what the Cateye costs.

Put them side by side in my warehouse and the Nashbar is by far brighter than the Cateye.

I wouldseriously recommend checking this light out.

Here's the link: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...All%20Products
The LD100, or the LD1000? The LD1000 is the big boy, the LD100 is the mouse-collar blinkie
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The LD100, or the LD1000? The LD1000 is the big boy, the LD100 is the mouse-collar blinkie

Also when comparing lights you need to have identical batteries of the same age, the battery makes a big difference.

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After all the tlak I heard on here about the Cateye LD100, I bought one.

I compared it to my current light, a Nashbar brilliant tailight that costs about half what the Cateye costs.

Put them side by side in my warehouse and the Nashbar is by far brighter than the Cateye.

I wouldseriously recommend checking this light out.

Here's the link: http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...All%20Products
You do mean the 1000 right? Please, photos of the two from multiple angles with brand new batteries! I'm about to get the 1000 but the Nashbar really is half the price!
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Nice! Now for the eleventy-billion-dollar question... when shooting that pic, from that kind of distance, do you feel that the blinkies would actually draw a person's attention if they weren't specifically looking for them?

Of course it's going to depend on the traffic and ambient light. I can not imaging not noticing one of these lights from about one city block away. Even in traffic. I have ridden a bike behind my bike in all the different light conditions I can find. In thick heavy traffic the cars can block your view, but I notice the light reflecting off other things.

I ride on rural roads a lot, often there is no ambient light or just the occasional weak street light. Noticing the light in that environment just depends on how far the horizon is, when the road curves , or if something is in the way. On my street it's as far as the horizon. About four or five blocks, but it's straight as an arrow so I can see the bike beside a car. Normally at that distance a car will block your view in traffic.

I want my eleventy- billion-dollars.
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I just received my cat eye TL LD 1000 and I have to say I am somewhat disappointed. Oh it's bright enough, but I didn't realize that they use two separate banks of five LED's. This means that on flash mode the separate banks will not stay in sync. The flash feature is what catches the eye of motorists, more than a steady light would. Since the two banks will never consistently flash in sync, this leaves the ON/OFF effect of flash slightly diminished. Is there any way to tie them together?

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This means that on flash mode the separate banks will not stay in sync. The flash feature is what catches the eye of motorists, more than a steady light. Since the two banks will never consistently flash in sync, this ON/OFF effect is diminished. Is there any way to tie them together?
That's a drawback of the LD1000, yeah. The two banks drift in and out of sync. If you truly need that much firepower to get seen in your environment, you might consider going custom with a Nova BULL or a Whelen TIR3. I want to get my paws on the Whelen and check it out, they're offered in a vertical orientation as well as horizontal, which might make them easier to mount on some bikes.
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I just received my cat eye TL LD 1000 and I have to say I am somewhat disappointed. Oh it's bright enough, but I didn't realize that they use two separate banks of five LED's. This means that on flash mode the separate banks will not stay in sync. The flash feature is what catches the eye of motorists, more than a steady light would. Since the two banks will never consistently flash in sync, this leaves the ON/OFF flash effect slightly diminished. Is there any way to tie them together?
Personally I think only having a flasher without a constant light is a bad idea, which other people share which is why they use two lights. The 1000 is basically just two lights in one, so you can keep one on constant and the other flashing, or both on chase which accomplishes basically the same thing.

BTW can't you simply push the buttons simultaneously if you really wanted to get them in sync?
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The two banks are independently strobed, so even if they're started at the same time, they still drift. It's still a pretty potent light as long as they have nice fresh Alkaline batteries (or with Lithium batteries that hold 1.5 volts to the very end).

I got a Planet Bike Blinky 5 to goof around with the other night. This could be a budget champ. The lens does have a real reflex reflector that'll kick back pretty good in headlights, and surprisingly the LED "hotspot" is right up there with my NiteRider daytime-visible blinkie! And this is a 5-LED blinkie for $10-$12. I think I'm kicking the Cateye LD500 off my visibility page in favor of the Blinky 5. Only real drawback so far: it won't bolt to a standard 2-hole reflector mount, unlike the Cateye.
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Mech is right. If you watch the Cateye for a while. especially in a dark place you can see it go into sync and out of sync.
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Mech is right. If you watch the Cateye for a while. especially in a dark place you can see it go into sync and out of sync.
I just burned my eyes For 5 minutes, Looking at one 1000 in the flash mode and it does go out of sync.

I think this a good point for the cateye. Motorist see something different every night.
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