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Old 10-04-06, 12:51 PM   #1
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Just putting cagers in their place....

I'm normally a nice guy, try to be friendly to drivers, and rarely respond to aggressive behavior. However, I must confess to intentionally making a motorist uncomfortable today.

One of the highways I travel was exceptionally blocked up this morning. Most people were waiting patiently in their cars moving 0-5 mph, but there's always some jerk who has to pass on the shoulder. Once one person does this you can count on a few others to try the same trick.

Anyway, someone in a Lexus GX started to pull onto the shoulder just as I was coming up behind him. Aside from the fact I don't want to get stuck behind a row of cars, the paved part shoulder was only about 4' wide (the rest is gravel) so passing on the right would be impossible.

I blew by cutting him just a couple inches of space and unambigously pointed where I thought his car should be. As I watched in my rearview, he returned to the line and I gave a friendly wave. Just gotta let 'em know who's boss sometime
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Old 10-04-06, 10:56 PM   #2
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Sometimes I do this to figure out if I can see if there's an accident up front. Plus I generally don't expect people to be travelling on the shoulder.

Just saying.
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Old 10-05-06, 07:55 AM   #3
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Sometimes I do this to figure out if I can see if there's an accident up front. Plus I generally don't expect people to be travelling on the shoulder.

Just saying.
I always laugh when people do that, it doesnt make a difference if there is an accident or not.
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Old 10-05-06, 08:10 AM   #4
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I hate it when drivers all backed up in congestion stray over into the bike lane. I have an airzound so the other day I had to blast away with it for about a mile and a half to make them get out of the way. Unfortunately, I don't think anybody knew what the heck they were hearing. A nice pat on their fender usually puts them back in their place.
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If there's a big line of traffic, and people are trying to pass on the shoulder (only to have to cut back in later ahead of the line,) I will pull out and hold my position behind the same car to block anyone trying to pass. This is an easier manouver to explain to drivers if you're in line with a bunch of truckers and can tell them on the CB what you're doing. Some drivers and I got a good laugh about this one time when a guy tried to pull into the grass to go around me, and then got stuck, and then attempted to get out and give me cr@p about it. Two truck drivers got out of their rigs and told him to go sit back in his car.
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And if he had pulled onto the shoulder quickly instead of just sticking the nose of his car out we would be reading about another cyclist hit by a car.

It's a dangerous game you played and while most of us (including myself) cannot resist the urge, we need to remember that if it goes wrong, he's not gonna feel a thing, how about you?
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Old 10-05-06, 09:48 AM   #7
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Last night as I was driving home in my cage (I ride in every other day usually) I saw two guys on motorcycles blast by traffic IN THE BIKE LANE!!! Man, I would have loved to give those two jacka$$es a piece of my mind.

There's never a cop around when you need one.

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Old 10-05-06, 10:21 AM   #8
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A few months ago, I was passing stopped traffic on the right. It was backed up from a stop light. Genius in his car decides he wants to pull into the parking lot and turn right, bypassing the traffic. Does he look? No, he just goes. I yelled, he stopped, but I still hit him. Knocked me over it did! The instant I got up I started yelling at him. "You see that shiny thing on the side of your car?! Its called a MIRROR. USE IT!" and he says "but I didn't see you!". "Obviously" I replied "because you didn't LOOK IN YOUR MIRROR!" Man, I was enraged at that guy. Then he just drove off.

People all around me were asking if I was ok. Another cyclist came back from where he was going and made sure all was cool.

Another time somebody pulled a right hook on me, I came within inches of slamming into him. He had turned right into a parking lot. Right in front of me of course. Then, traffic going into the parking lot was stopped for some reason, so he stopped directly in front of me. I slapped my hand on his window and said "HEY!! You nearly caused me to crash!" he just shrugged and pointed at traffic ahead of him, and didn't even look at me. I said "Bad traffic is no excuse for poor driving!". and I backed away and left. Another car, stopped in a left hand turn lane, rolled down his window and leaned out as I rode by and said "Right on dude!".

My 2 stories. Cagers need to be LARTed sometimes.

(LART= Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool)
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LART= Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool

It's "luser" actually
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that was reasonnable behavior, you didnt expect much but what he is suppose to do anyway, bet the power of being on a bike and putting a car back at it's place was priceless though
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two words dude - Anger Managment...

Just kidding you were REALLY polite, I would not have been that level headed.
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two words dude - Anger Managment...
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LART= Loser Attitude Readjustment Tool

It's "luser" actually
D'oh! I've been LARTed!
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two words dude - Anger Managment...

Just kidding you were REALLY polite, I would not have been that level headed.
Me or the OP?
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And if he had pulled onto the shoulder quickly instead of just sticking the nose of his car out we would be reading about another cyclist hit by a car.
Not a chance. Whenever I ride near cars, I'm always ready for them to move on me and I won't go within door's reach unless the passenger/driver is on the other side of the car. Since I was being provocative, I was prepared for a hostile pullout to cut me off, but that didn't happen.

If the driver had suddenly zoomed out, I would have swerved (presuming not enough space to brake to an acceptable collision speed), probably lost my balance in the gravel, and certainly fallen in the ditch. This is not particularly dangerous (though there is a slight chance of more than minor injury) and is probably more traumatizing for witnesses than the victim. If you pull stupid stunts, you need to be prepared for the likely outcomes.

I hardly ever get mad at motorists because I expect them to do what they do. This wasn't one of those "hardly" occasions. I don't think it's reasonable to expect motorists to be overtaken by a bike on the shoulder on a highway, especially when there is a wider MUP nearby (which was the case in this situation). I also expect people to "peek" out when traffic stops because that's human nature. Hell, I watch my mirrors like a hawk for drifters because keeping a vehicle between the lines seems to be an issue for many drivers.

I love riding and my commute, but frankly, conditions suck most of the time. The highway noise is so loud I can hardly hear anything (especially in the rain). Once it gets dark, I'm going to be hitting debris all the time and being blinded by the lights, and I always have to watch my mirrors because every once in a long while, someone uses the shoulder as a deacceleration lane without noticing I'm there. I never ride on my commuting roads for fun even though I frequently go on recreational rides.

If you're wondering why I love my commute if I think the conditions stink, it's very simple -- I love cycling and my commute contains a 15 mile stretch with only one traffic control. This means that for most part, I can ride hard.

When cars are gummed up, my ride suddenly changes from a commute to a recreational ride. I enjoy the virtually nonexistent road noise (as well as the drastically reduced engine noise), pour on the speed, and laugh inside as blow by everyone. Buzzing that car was mostly my way of gloating and rubbing it in, but also to remind everyone who saw what happened that cyclists are out there.
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Not a chance. Whenever I ride near cars, I'm always ready for them to move on me and I won't go within door's reach unless the passenger/driver is on the other side of the car. Since I was being provocative, I was prepared for a hostile pullout to cut me off, but that didn't happen.

If the driver had suddenly zoomed out, I would have swerved (presuming not enough space to brake to an acceptable collision speed), probably lost my balance in the gravel, and certainly fallen in the ditch. This is not particularly dangerous (though there is a slight chance of more than minor injury) and is probably more traumatizing for witnesses than the victim. If you pull stupid stunts, you need to be prepared for the likely outcomes.
Fair enough.

I'm awful jealous of your traffic signal free stretch. I wonder what my avergae speed would look like if my longest stretch without a traffic signal wasn't half a mile!!!
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Fair enough.

I'm awful jealous of your traffic signal free stretch. I wonder what my avergae speed would look like if my longest stretch without a traffic signal wasn't half a mile!!!
It is sweet -- I'd much rather spin on my ride than constantly adjust for lights, cars, and signs.

I still have a couple miles in the towns at the edge of my commute with plenty of lights and the normal city stuff that slows you down, but except when I'm riding in the dark, carrying more stuff than normal, fighting wind, or just get exceptionally unlucky with the lights, I'm disappointed if I don't average at least 20mph. Having said that, breaking 21 including the town sections rarely happens without wind assistance (actually, breaking 21 is rare enough because the lights need to be pretty nice to me)
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