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Old 10-24-06, 12:25 AM   #1
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How competitive are you?

I like to think of myself as generally well-adjusted, but I have real problems being passed by other bikes. Yesterday on a 10km ride to meet friends for dinner, I was moving along at a decent speed, and along the way passed a guy on an old road bike. He then picked up the pace and passed me in what I took to be a passive-aggresive protest at being passed by some gangly white guy on a single-speed folder with a helmet and blinkies. Neither of us made any eye contact -- for about 4-5 km, before I had to make a turn, we fought a silent duel with an uncertain goal. It was supremely silly, but there was some unspoken, underlying need to establish superiority.

How many of you can relate to this? Or am I less well-adjusted than I'd like to think?
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Old 10-24-06, 12:32 AM   #2
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I like to race, or at least ride with, people. I enjoy the goal of riding a little faster and find that someone going faster than me is really fun encouragment to pick up the pace and push myself.
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I'm always surprised at how you always have a little bit more energy than you think you have -- and it seems to be unlocked by getting passed.
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Whenever two boats are sailing in the same direction, at least one of them is raceing.
Perhaps this also applies to cyclists?
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I'm always surprised at how you always have a little bit more energy than you think you have -- and it seems to be unlocked by getting passed.
I agree. Someone passing me always encourages me to speed up a bit.
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got the same problem, do not like being passed by anyone except the day I choose to go for my recovery ride, which is usually riding with my son and it is still hard to hold back, but Iam learning to discipline myself
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I'm always surprised at how you always have a little bit more energy than you think you have -- and it seems to be unlocked by getting passed.
I agree. There's nothing wrong with using other cyclists as motivation to work a little harder, as long as you keep it in perspective.

I generally won't pass people who pass me unless they slow down, but I will sometimes pace behind them at a respectable (non-drafting) distance. Those are some of my best commutes.
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I have the same problem. I too am working to discipline myself on recovery days. I'm getting better about it. Is it competitiveness or ego?
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I don't mine people overtaking me, what anoysme is when I over take someone then at the next set of traffic lights they pull up and stop in frount of me and accelerate away as hard as they can then 20 m down the road I re-overtake as I steadaly accelerate pass them then the do it again, I am waiting at traffic lights then they pull up infrount of me. Why do that? I am clearly gong faster why sit infrount of me after I have overtaken. I just happen to of been caught at the traffic lights thats why I am no further ahead now how have to navergae my way past you as you squirm all over the road busting a gut to keep going. W@nk&rs.
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Oh yeah, I'm fiercely competitive. Maybe it's because I ride a recumbent trike, and I feel I have something to prove. Regardless of whatever psychological deficiency is at the root of it, I will ALWAYS try to catch up with any rider in front of me - and pass them if I can. I'm usually successful, because most of the people I pass are university students on improperly maintained mountain bikes travelling at half my speed. Occasionally I'll run into a roadie though, and give 'em a good run before I inevitably have to turn off onto a different street. Good times.
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I agree. There's nothing wrong with using other cyclists as motivation to work a little harder, as long as you keep it in perspective.

I generally won't pass people who pass me unless they slow down, but I will sometimes pace behind them at a respectable (non-drafting) distance. Those are some of my best commutes.
Ditto. My headlamp tells them I'm there anyway .
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Eh, if you pass me, fine. If I pass you, it's cuz I'm moving faster. I try to stick to a comfortable pace and inevitably I'll be passed or pass someone, sometimes pass the same person over and over. The other guy might be racing, but I'm just riding.
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I'll check the other person out as they pass me. If they look like they want to race...then its on. Other wise I'll just fall in behind the other person, pick up the pace enough to follow them and enjoy the workout.
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I like to think of myself as generally well-adjusted, but I have real problems being passed by other bikes. Yesterday on a 10km ride to meet friends for dinner, I was moving along at a decent speed, and along the way passed a guy on an old road bike. He then picked up the pace and passed me in what I took to be a passive-aggresive protest at being passed by some gangly white guy on a single-speed folder with a helmet and blinkies. Neither of us made any eye contact -- for about 4-5 km, before I had to make a turn, we fought a silent duel with an uncertain goal. It was supremely silly, but there was some unspoken, underlying need to establish superiority.

How many of you can relate to this? Or am I less well-adjusted than I'd like to think?
I'm not sure how I'd feel about getting passed by another cyclist, but if it ever happens I'll be sure and post here.
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I agree. There's nothing wrong with using other cyclists as motivation to work a little harder, as long as you keep it in perspective.

I generally won't pass people who pass me unless they slow down, but I will sometimes pace behind them at a respectable (non-drafting) distance. Those are some of my best commutes.
+1 from me on this one, too.
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My take is that I always enjoy passing someone, and I will always fight to avoid being passed, but ultimately it doesn't bother me much at all when someone passes me. In fact, I try to make a point of complimenting someone when they pass me, because they must be going pretty quick. What I want is the best hard ride I can get, and my best hard rides are always those where I'm competing or racing someone. So if someone is beating me, that's fine because I know I'm going as hard as humanly possible, and that's really my goal. I'd rather do 25 miles fighting and battling but slowly being dropped than to blow by someone and then do the rest of the ride alone and less motivated.
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I'll check the other person out as they pass me. If they look like they want to race...then its on. Other wise I'll just fall in behind the other person, pick up the pace enough to follow them and enjoy the workout.
I don't race anyone, since trying to beat any serious roadies while on my beater MTB commuter would be a futile effort.
However, I've picked up the pace a bit to 'admire the scenery' after being passed by a couple of really hot riders before.
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I took to be a passive-aggresive protest at being passed by ... a single-speed folder
I'm going to be honest and say I would have raced you too. No disrespect to folders, but it would be a shot to my ego to be passed by one, even if Jan was powering it.
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Hi, my name is Pinkrobe.
Hi Pinkrobe!
I'm a bike chaser. I chase anyone who passes me, and anyone I can see in the distance.
Gasp!
It doesn't matter who they are, or what bike they're on, I have a need to reel them in. I... just can't help myself.
I cast thee out!
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I personally think its fun to pass a roadie while I'm on my mtb with panniers.
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I personally think its fun to pass a roadie while I'm on my mtb with panniers.
If you're passing them on a rig like that, they're "Freds", not "roadies".
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In 3yrs. of commuting I have never been passed on a commute, but have passed many.

This is of course not because I am the fastest commuter, but instead because I don't encounter faster riders on my particular route and time.

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I've been passed twice on my regular commute in the past two months by someone who wasn't passing while I was stopped at a stop sign or light. Both times I had a full load in my grocery panniers and a headwind and the passing person was a roadie in kit with no load at all.



The ones that irritate the hell out of me are the people that blow past me while I'm stopped at a sign or light, then I have to get around them and pass their sorry a$$es a half block later. I've done the leapfrog thing with one person for 3 miles... every time I stop he passes, as soon as I pass him, he drafts off me till the next stop sign or light. Pretty sad, really... I'm always tempted to slam on my brakes as soon as he gets behind me. I hate tailgaters!
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Many of the cyclists on my route who ride at my pace or faster are also pretty sketchy riders (pass unsafely, overlap wheels, etc...). I try to stay away from them... if they can catch me that is
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I'll chase anything, even buses and trucks!!!

I'll catch up to someone and stay a respectful distance from their wheel. I will not pass unless I am sure I can pass and pull away. I will not pass and just sit in front of him. If I get passed, I will try and keep up but will not hang on a guys rear wheel.

To me it's not an ego thing, it's simply a tool to ancourage me to work harder.
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