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    Planet Bike Alias HID




    I bit today and ordered the Planet Bike Alias HID. After looking at all the systems on this board, I was hooked. I like the self contained unit, however I would have liked a bit more run time as well. I was considering the LM system, but it's US price with Li-Ion battery was more than the Alias HID from MEC. My Commute is only 10 minutes each way, so a charge should last about a weeks use (I hope).

    I'm sure this will not be my last HID bike light system (or alternative system), so I think it's a good start. I was also considering a Night Hawk K2 Emitter for a general use system.

    I'm thinking of a DiNotte Tail lamp to match up with this, however I would like a self contained unit as well.

    I'll post pictures once the Alias HID arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ

    I'll post pictures once the Alias HID arrives.
    I'm really looking forward to hearing more about this light. It doesn't seem like many places stock it, and even Planet Bike is out of stock. But I really like the self-contained design, and low weight. Please post a full review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackJ
    I'm really looking forward to hearing more about this light. It doesn't seem like many places stock it, and even Planet Bike is out of stock. But I really like the self-contained design, and low weight. Please post a full review!

    Will do! I'm hoping it's at least in the same leauge as top brands as the LM unit. I haven't seen a lot of reviews on this unit (none), and not a lot of comments on the forums regarding it, so I guess I'll be the Test Pilot

    If anything it'll make a nice back up to a LM HID or Dinotte long burn LED system

    Or I was thinking, 2 Alias HID's in parallel would be killer! for 2.5 -3 hours at least
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    Cool! The self-contained design is so slick; no wires going all over your bike! What's the burn time?

    I have heard that self-contained lights may have vibration issues from the extra mass of the battery - hope yours holds up well; I expect it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoj
    Cool! The self-contained design is so slick; no wires going all over your bike! What's the burn time?

    I have heard that self-contained lights may have vibration issues from the extra mass of the battery - hope yours holds up well; I expect it will.
    I've been using a L&M Vega, which is a self-contained LED, not a HID, for going on two years now, no problems with it at all.
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    Interested in hearing about your results, as i've been eyeing that light every time i go thru mec. My commute is close to an hour each way so would only get 1 day out of it. But if i can blind a few hundred cagers each day, thats worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantoj
    Cool! The self-contained design is so slick; no wires going all over your bike! What's the burn time?

    I have heard that self-contained lights may have vibration issues from the extra mass of the battery - hope yours holds up well; I expect it will.

    Lets hope not on the Vibration issues

    These are the specs on the Alias HID

    • 382 grams
    • 14.4 volt Lithium Ion battery speed charges in under 3 hours
    • Welch Allyn 10 watt High-Intensity Discharge bulb with Solarc™ Light technology
    • 2.5 hours of run time on High, 3.25 hours on low
    • Includes custom soft case for convenient transport and storage
    • Bracket fits 25.5mm to 31.8mm handlebars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarery
    Interested in hearing about your results, as i've been eyeing that light every time i go thru mec. My commute is close to an hour each way so would only get 1 day out of it. But if i can blind a few hundred cagers each day, thats worth it.
    How big is the light comparatively? I have not seen it in person yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    How big is the light comparatively? I have not seen it in person yet.
    All the bulbs are the same diameter. Can you judge it roughly from that?
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    It looked like a skinny can of pop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarery
    It looked like a skinny can of pop.
    Like a Red Bull size? Thats a Huge B!tch!

    I may have to Ante up, break down and get a LM Arc as well.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    All the bulbs are the same diameter. Can you judge it roughly from that?
    Maybe, if I could see the bulb....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Maybe, if I could see the bulb....
    Do you have a Halogen bike light? Same diameter. A little over 1".
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    Do you have a Halogen bike light? Same diameter. A little over 1".
    Ok, got it....


    I can't wait to get it. I'm thumping along on a Cateye EL500 right now and while it does the job during my well lit commute, it's when I get in downtown traffic that I fear I get lost in all the lights and action in the morning when everyone is dopey and in a mad rush.

    Does anybody make a dual headlight HID with single battery system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    Ok, got it....


    I can't wait to get it. I'm thumping along on a Cateye EL500 right now and while it does the job during my well lit commute, it's when I get in downtown traffic that I fear I get lost in all the lights and action in the morning when everyone is dopey and in a mad rush.

    Does anybody make a dual headlight HID with single battery system?
    I bet you didn't expect this answer !

    My single HID is equal to 65 watts halogen, it's brighter than one car headlight. I don't want two.

    There is a dual HID light 14w X14W =28watt HID. Super high quaity, one of the nicest in the world.
    It's about $1400.oo. when it's on sale. Equal to over 100w halogen. Do you have your credit card ready?



    There is a HID with a halogen next to it, I can't remember the price without looking. You leave the HID on and switch the halogen as you need it. It's not good to switch HID's ON and off all the time. The also need to startup like a flourescent bulb, it takes a few seconds. Did you want to ask about the quantity discounts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes
    I bet you didn't expect this answer !

    My single HID is equal to 65 watts halogen, it's brighter than one car headlight. I don't want two.

    There is a dual HID light 14w X14W =28watt HID. Super high quaity, one of the nicest in the world.
    It's about $1400.oo. when it's on sale. Equal to over 100w halogen. Do you have your credit card ready?



    There is a HID with a halogen next to it, I can't remember the price without looking. You leave the HID on and switch the halogen as you need it. It's not good to switch HID's ON and off all the time. The also need to startup like a flourescent bulb, it takes a few seconds. Did you want to ask about the quantity discounts?
    No, actually I did expect somebody to have something that is over the top like that

    That sounds interesting, have a link? Why would you want Halogen in addition to HID, besides the turn on issue?


    I found this one at Powerizer...



    Link Here

    Only 2 hours burn time however... It'll need a bigger battery, and a bar mounting kit.

    I was thinking with 2 a person could have a 6 degree spot on one and a flood on the other. Or a 6 degrees spot and a projector lens for even deeper depths... Unless a 6 degree spot is deep enough.



    Our bike club has night rides in the summer. That dual unit may fry the persons lycra in front of me in the pack. Coupled with the blinding Dinotte Ultra Tail light, I can see that I would be a joy to be around in a pace line
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    No, actually I did expect somebody to have something that is over the top like that

    That sounds interesting, have a link? Why would you want Halogen in addition to HID, besides the turn on issue?I found this one at Powerizer...Only 2 hours burn time however... It'll need a bigger battery, and a bar mounting kit.
    I was thinking with 2 a person could have a 6 degree spot on one and a flood on the other. Or a 6 degrees spot and a projector lens for even deeper depths... Unless a 6 degree spot is deep enough.
    Our bike club has night rides in the summer. That dual unit may fry the persons lycra in front of me in the pack. Coupled with the blinding Dinotte Ultra Tail light, I can see that I would be a joy to be around in a pace line
    Instant pace line crash !!

    This is mine. I need the 8 hour run time. Look for the “Edison 10” Lupine

    http://www.lupine-lights.com/index.php?lang=de If you have time look around.

    There is a page with all the specs. Go to the comparison night photos to see the beams. I have the 16 degree flood ( I think it’s 16) you can see why you don’t need two bulbs. There is a link to the reviews at mtbreview .com too.

    Supernova http://www.supernova-lights.com/en/index.html

    The P-99D is great, but a wide head and to short run time for me. But the idea is nice. If you have time look around here too, all sorts of nice stuff. There are good beam comparison photos too.

    Nitesun http://www.night-sun.com/htmldocs/civilian.html

    The Hid with a halogen.


    View this page too. http://www.mikebentley.com/bike/headlights.htm

    Nightrider has a 12 hour HID.

    Look way down the path at the fence on the left. Look at the shadow of the bridge railing against the trees on the right. Look at the ground close to the front tire and the left side of the right brifter. Don't need a flood and a spot beam.
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    2many, Thanks for those links! Thats a nice photo of your rig too!

    I'll take a look around.
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    I'm stalling on a purchase pending a review of the PlanetBike light. I'm also kicking around the idea of the tripleshot pro. Sooner is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
    I'm stalling on a purchase pending a review of the PlanetBike light. I'm also kicking around the idea of the tripleshot pro. Sooner is better
    I have high hopes for this light for I was sort of wanting a L&M Arc. However I was taken by the integrated design, and the sleekness of the Alias unit. I hope I'm not too dissapointed.
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    2many....


    WOWWEE! Those SuperNova systems are beautiful and intelligently designed! Expensive you're right


    I like the Lupine Edison, and the 5 hour burn time would be a perfect amount for me. I like the 16 degree as it's distance depth still seem very good.
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    The Alias HID Arrived today and was waiting for me when I got home. What a sweet lamp! It came nicely packaged with all the accessories required. The battery was charged for when I plugged it in, the charger started blinking Green (fully charged) with in 3 minutes.


    When I turned it on, I felt like Luke Skywalker turning on a Light saber, it was soo cool

    The dimensions of this unit is 50mm at the biggest diameter and 150mm in length. The case is made of aluminum and it has a very nice textured Titanium finish to it. The battery is very quick to replace by threading open the back, dropping it in. I'll definitely get a spare battery to carry around in my pack or for those longer rides. The battery is a Li-Ion and is certainly small enough. Burn time is said to be 2.5 hours on high.

    Over all it's pretty small in size and packs a lot of punch. The handlebar mount is like a quick release on a wheel, and detaches very quickly. The Light slides in from the front and locks in place with a very positive click. There is a button that needs to be pressed to release the light from the mount.

    I tested it on both bike to see how it would fit and feel, both mounted well with out really changing to much to the feel of the steering with the weight of the light. In tests it is bright! Maybe not Lupine Bright, but baby, even in the darkest alley, I could see as far as I wanted to see, and the peripheral light was excellent as well. I really love the way the shadows are cast on to pebbles, rocks, dips, basically the whole textured terrain of the road. It was like some extra 7th sense vision riding with this light.

    I get to ride to work in the morning with it and I can't wait. This is going to be a lot of fun!

    I'll let the pictures do the talking now.


















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    The picture actually makes the dark ring more apperent that it really is. to the naked eye, it isn't even really there.





    On my Winter commuter bike now, ready to go with the exception of snow studs, which may get mounted this weekend as it's suppose to snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ
    DiNotte Tail lamp to match up with this, however I would like a self contained unit as well.
    FYI I just got my Dinotte today. While I like self-contained units a bit better too, in this case I think it is worth the extra effort. Cars gave me noticeably more room on a busy 40-50 mph room. They pretty much just gave me the lane. Since the light is so bright, they see you from farther away, and have more time to figure out how to get around you with plenty of room.
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